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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:32 pm
by Joohan
Northern Davincia wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:or you could worship the creator of the universe but ok

Not to worry, that is where my worship goes.
Joohan wrote:
Trump was just the beginning. His arrival has marked a new era in Republican politics, and in the future I predict that more sophisticated generations of nationalists will rise to the occasion. Especially so, if the current given global economic system is bound for collapse ( as I believe it is )

Who will carry the populist torch after Trump? The establishment hates him for his failures, and they have far greater power in setting the party's agenda.


I don't know who will come after him, but I have no doubt that people will populate the newly opened possibilities. Your average Republican disagrees with the establishment of the GOP on most issues ( immigration, free trade, social liberalism, etc. ), but until Trump it was unthinkable about challenging their narrative. Now that men like Romney and Ryan have been turned into jokes, it has shown a lot of future leaders that there does in fact exist a future for patriots in politics that doesn't revolve around sucking up to Reagens ghost or getting a hard on over free trade deals with China.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:32 pm
by Valrifell
Northern Davincia wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
The Nationalists' drew the short end of the stick when they drew Trump as their new figurehead. Win or lose, such a divisive and controversial figure who is likely to be emulated in future embodiments of the movement is not likely to draw in very much positive attention from a lot of voters. Had they gotten a more competent or charismatic figurehead I'd be more bullish on their chances, but as it stands it looks to me as though their influence is fleeting, give it a decade or so I say.

That is my assessment as well. Trump is actually quite charismatic though (he didn't get a devoted fanbase for nothing).


But he fails to win over detractors in a similar way Reagan managed to.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:32 pm
by Sundiata
Cekoviu wrote:lavishly slathering praise upon women in general and hornyposting for a woman who was alive 2000 years ago to the degree that you do is not "helping women grow in their faith." it's absolutely simping and it borders on the idolatrous

If you only saw her; you'd love her too. I harbor no lust for Our Lady as that would be sinful. I do, however, hold her in great esteem. All women have the capacity to follow her example of devotion to the Lord, as they are blessed in turn. If you came to see who she was, you would come to love all women too.

Think of the political and everyday implications of this.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:38 pm
by Cekoviu
Sundiata wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:lavishly slathering praise upon women in general and hornyposting for a woman who was alive 2000 years ago to the degree that you do is not "helping women grow in their faith." it's absolutely simping and it borders on the idolatrous

If you only saw her; you'd love her too. I harbor no lust for Our Lady as that would be sinful. I do, however, hold her in great esteem. All women have the capacity to follow her example of devotion to the Lord, as they are blessed in turn. If you came to see who she was, you would come to love all women too.

Think of the political and everyday implications of this.

what i'm hearing is that if i start worshiping mary, i'll turn into a panlesbian
right?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:38 pm
by Jack Thomas Lang
Cekoviu wrote:what i'm hearing is that if i start worshiping mary, i'll turn into a panlesbian
right?

Why is all love erotic to you? Are you horny for dad or something?

edit: I assume you love your father

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:38 pm
by Sundiata
The Republicans have abandoned Catholics in the economic dimensions of our lives, while the Democrats have abandoned Catholics within the social dimension of our lives.

An effective synthesis could potentially establish what St. Augustine referred to as The City of God.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:39 pm
by Salus Maior
Cekoviu wrote:
Sundiata wrote:If you only saw her; you'd love her too. I harbor no lust for Our Lady as that would be sinful. I do, however, hold her in great esteem. All women have the capacity to follow her example of devotion to the Lord, as they are blessed in turn. If you came to see who she was, you would come to love all women too.

Think of the political and everyday implications of this.

what i'm hearing is that if i start worshiping mary, i'll turn into a panlesbian
right?


Not everything is sexual, Cekoviu.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:39 pm
by Cisairse
Valrifell wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Not to worry, that is where my worship goes.

Who will carry the populist torch after Trump? The establishment hates him for his failures, and they have far greater power in setting the party's agenda.


There won't be an "after Trump" for a while, is the problem. He won't simply relinquish control over the movement he's created for himself, it's not in his personality or in the general style of such figures to do so. But if this movement wants broader electoral appeal, it has to drop him. As such, they are cornered before they can get off the ground, and will be forced to limit themselves to the styling of Trump and his direct supporters.


Would not be surprised if Trump runs in '24

Assuming he's still alive

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:40 pm
by Cisairse
Sundiata wrote:The Republicans have abandoned Catholics in the economic dimensions of our lives, while the Democrats have abandoned Catholics within the social dimension of our lives.

An effective synthesis could potentially establish what St. Augustine referred to as The City of God.


Meanwhile both parties have abandoned the economic and social dimensions of regular working-class Americans, and a party synthesis would not reasonably help in any way.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:41 pm
by New haven america
Sundiata wrote:The Republicans have abandoned Catholics in the economic dimensions of our lives, while the Democrats have abandoned Catholics within the social dimension of our lives.

An effective synthesis could potentially establish what St. Augustine referred to as The City of God.

Nah, Separation of Church of State needs to be further emphasized in the coming years.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:42 pm
by Northern Davincia
Sundiata wrote:The Republicans have abandoned Catholics in the economic dimensions of our lives, while the Democrats have abandoned Catholics within the social dimension of our lives.

An effective synthesis could potentially establish what St. Augustine referred to as The City of God.

There is not much of an audience for a synthesis in America.
Cisairse wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
There won't be an "after Trump" for a while, is the problem. He won't simply relinquish control over the movement he's created for himself, it's not in his personality or in the general style of such figures to do so. But if this movement wants broader electoral appeal, it has to drop him. As such, they are cornered before they can get off the ground, and will be forced to limit themselves to the styling of Trump and his direct supporters.


Would not be surprised if Trump runs in '24
Assuming he's still alive

By 2024 his health will be in bad shape.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:43 pm
by Aureumterra
Valrifell wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Not to worry, that is where my worship goes.

Who will carry the populist torch after Trump? The establishment hates him for his failures, and they have far greater power in setting the party's agenda.


There won't be an "after Trump" for a while, is the problem. He won't simply relinquish control over the movement he's created for himself, it's not in his personality or in the general style of such figures to do so. But if this movement wants broader electoral appeal, it has to drop him. As such, they are cornered before they can get off the ground, and will be forced to limit themselves to the styling of Trump and his direct supporters.

Ben Shapiro 2024 gang

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:43 pm
by Bear Stearns
Cekoviu wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
Global capitalism is cancerous. I just want a loving stable community where I can be left alone and leave my door unlocked when I go out. I hate urban life and I hate capitalism, I even hate banking. But I do it for the money.

odd that you want a loving stable community but also want to be left alone -- urban life has fewer people, but is much more isolating than life in a fulfilling community
anyway, i agree that global capitalism is bad, but the solution is not protectionist capitalism lmao


I meant be left alone with my community. Not me literally being on my own.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:44 pm
by Northern Davincia
New haven america wrote:
Sundiata wrote:The Republicans have abandoned Catholics in the economic dimensions of our lives, while the Democrats have abandoned Catholics within the social dimension of our lives.

An effective synthesis could potentially establish what St. Augustine referred to as The City of God.

Nah, Separation of Church of State needs to be further emphasized in the coming years.

I will endorse Ken Ham for president despite his ineligibility.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:46 pm
by Bienenhalde
Imperium Romanum Sanctis wrote:
Italios wrote:I mean you're not gonna get a lot of sympathy for me on the imperialism point. but the tory party is notoriously amazing at wrecking its own people.


The British Conservative Party is paradoxical in so many ways it almost defies belief.

The self-proclaimed party of Empire was also the leading proponent of decolonization. They gave independence to Ireland, gutted British industry, have been milquetoast in their response to Scottish separatism and fought tooth and nail to prevent Britain from leaving the EU.

For a so-called "conservative" party, they don't seem very interested in conserving anything.


The Conservative Party is the party that has consistently supported the Monarchy, the House of Lords, and the Church of England. I don't see why you think imperialism was so great. I mean, maybe the British Empire wasn't as bad as modern Leftists say it was, but I still think that replacing it with the Commonwealth was a step in the right direction. And even assuming that leaving the EU will have a positive effect on Britain's internal politics, it doesn't exactly seem to be strengthening their position on the world stage.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:46 pm
by Cekoviu
Salus Maior wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:what i'm hearing is that if i start worshiping mary, i'll turn into a panlesbian
right?


Not everything is sexual, Cekoviu.

it's a joke my man

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:47 pm
by Nakena
Thoughts on Tucker Carlson?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:48 pm
by Jack Thomas Lang
Nakena wrote:Thoughts on Tucker Carlson?

I don't know much about him, but the clips I've seen of his show are interesting. Can't say I agree with all of it, especially the attempts to paint republicans in a good light. I like him better when he savages both parties.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:48 pm
by Cisairse
Nakena wrote:Thoughts on Tucker Carlson?

corporate hack

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:49 pm
by Northern Davincia
Bienenhalde wrote:
Imperium Romanum Sanctis wrote:
The British Conservative Party is paradoxical in so many ways it almost defies belief.

The self-proclaimed party of Empire was also the leading proponent of decolonization. They gave independence to Ireland, gutted British industry, have been milquetoast in their response to Scottish separatism and fought tooth and nail to prevent Britain from leaving the EU.

For a so-called "conservative" party, they don't seem very interested in conserving anything.


The Conservative Party is the party that has consistently supported the Monarchy, the House of Lords, and the Church of England. I don't see why you think imperialism was so great. I mean, maybe the British Empire wasn't as bad as modern Leftists say it was, but I still think that replacing it with the Commonwealth was a step in the right direction. And even assuming that leaving the EU will have a positive effect on Britain's internal politics, it doesn't exactly seem to be strengthening their position on the world stage.

Decolonization was done too quickly, giving way to dictators and insanely corrupt politicians.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:49 pm
by Bienenhalde
Bear Stearns wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
That's just so untrue, you just want the power to insult people until they get fed up and leave the site.


No, I just want to call someone a dipshit when they're acting like one. And if being called a dipshit is enough to make someone leave the site, then that would also improve content quality.


Being irritated by petty, childish, sophomoric insults like a normal human being somehow implies that a person would be a bad poster?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:50 pm
by Northern Davincia
Cisairse wrote:
Nakena wrote:Thoughts on Tucker Carlson?

corporate hack

That's my job. :mad:

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:50 pm
by Sundiata
Cekoviu wrote:
Sundiata wrote:If you only saw her; you'd love her too. I harbor no lust for Our Lady as that would be sinful. I do, however, hold her in great esteem. All women have the capacity to follow her example of devotion to the Lord, as they are blessed in turn. If you came to see who she was, you would come to love all women too.

Think of the political and everyday implications of this.

what i'm hearing is that if i start worshiping mary, i'll turn into a panlesbian
right?

You would be mistaken to worship Mary, we are to worship God.

However, there's no better way to get to Christ than through his mother. Ask her to pray for you, compliment her, give her your time. She needs our attention, especially because she experienced such great sorrow in her life. After all, she saw her only son tortured to death for all of our sake. Love her dearly, and in turn love all women the same.

The political implications of Marian devotion are programs like paid-maternity leave, child tax-credits, etc.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:51 pm
by Cekoviu
Nakena wrote:Thoughts on Tucker Carlson?

warm and bad

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:51 pm
by Valrifell
Jack Thomas Lang wrote:
Nakena wrote:Thoughts on Tucker Carlson?

I don't know much about him, but the clips I've seen of his show are interesting. Can't say I agree with all of it, especially the attempts to paint republicans in a good light. I like him better when he savages both parties.


He's essentially a commentator who follows the money trail. He started out as your standard milquetoast liberal before his show got canned and he was moved to another network, then suddenly he was this antiwoke liberal-hating fellow and shifted more and more right as it became financially convenient to do so. His writers, I'm sure, come up with his takes for him.

He's a millionaire who talks about how millionaires and "the elite" suck while also being bankrolled by billionaires.