RWDT XX: The System Is Kapp Putsch

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

I have Epistemological and Etymological Sovereignty so I can say and think brave and courageous thoughts

"etymological sovereignty" i snorted, we're on like our third iteration of english; your great-great-great-great etc grandfather didn't even know what "j" was

A moment, about my great-great-great-great grandfather — he was at Waterloo. The British heavy cavalry charge by the Union Brigade utterly shattered two Brigades of French infantry, in particular his Regiment destroyed the Brigade of Charles-Francois Bourgeois and captured the eagle of the 105th Line Regiment. The French cuirassiers counter-attacked and drove back the British cavalry. His regiment suffered over fifty percent casualties and he probably did not survive. There's not a lot of information about him and obviously I did not meet him, but my guess is he liked beer, sex and horses. He probably could not read, and would have no need to know of the letter J.

Of course, I am highly literate and have been reading since my eyes could open, and I know the letter J (and all the other letters, and letters in other languages too) but I have never ridden a cavalry horse into a line of French infantry on a Belgian field, so I wonder — how much use is Etymological Sovereignty, really?

Well, in this world, we do not have a lot of dignity. At least one of my ancestor's descendants remembers him favourably. Of course the charge of the British heavy cavalry at Waterloo is now immortal in history as well. I can't do anything nearly as cool as that, not because I'm not physically fit and not brave, but because there is nothing quite as cool to do in our century XXI, but I still need to find dignity, and that dignity is derived from independence, ie Etymological Sovereignty.

[Bienenhalde]

Your people are taking guns to the streets to protest about government measures to control the plague, if you take away their shitty plastic trinkets they will actually use their 2nd amendment and replace the government with an actual credit card company, rather than a credit card company called a government, which it is now.

Yes, well I think those people are subversive troublemakers and ought to be supressed by whatever lawful means possible.

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

in fact it is worth remembering that sea transport is SOOOOO much more efficient than any form of overland transport, which is why thassalocracies have tended to dominate the world in the modern period

Although I find the thassalocracy thing over simplistic. Few besides the Republic of Venice really fit the model more exactly, land and sea power are not really mutually exclusive.

But absolutely since the majority of the world is is covered in water, to be a real world power you want naval superiority.
Air and naval power are key.

One thing I think interesting is to look at countries in ratios. The US has generally kept a 5/6*/4 Army/Air Force/Navy ratio since the 70s. And before that is was more 1/1*/1

Whereas the UK has more like 7/3/3

Which seems weird to me that the UK of all places puts so much weight on the army.
When despite us being a bigger land power our Department of the Navy has more personnel than our Department of the Army.

*The US is interesting in that the Navy and Marines are considered separate services, but under the same Navy department, and with some shared functions, all chaplains and medical personnel attached to the Marines are actually in the Navy.

The simple reason is just cost.

A light-role infantry battalion costs almost nothing. The cost of the barracks is completely amortised, they are not mounted in special vehicles, and the training is not that expensive either. The battalion of 650 men can be raised at very low cost.

650 men is the compliment of three Type 23 frigates, the total cost of which would be £360 million, and the annual maintenance cost of each about £20 million. Not to speak about the cost of the bases or the cost of fuel just for putting one vessel on patrol. Britain can't afford that many frigates, and the British army does not often receive new equipment, and does not have a lot of heavy mech in service at the moment. It's much cheaper to raise a load of light-role infantry battalions, military police, combat service support regiments etc than it is to equip a similar number of people to serve on warships.

Think about it this way: a full establishment British mechanised brigade is about 4,500 men. That's the same as the compliment of 24 Type 23 frigates, 8 more than we ever built. We can't afford that many ships. (Well, we can, akshually, but we don't.)

[Fahran]

The women of my church are truly the most radiant of roses.

I'm more like a sad hydrangea personally.

[Bienenhalde]

Those protestors need to be jailed. They are putting innocent peoples’ lives at risk. It’s insane.

And then you will have another Waco.

Imagine a Waco in 2020 holy shit

The selfish, unruly American populace must be forced to learn its place and learn to obey lawful authority or else.

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

The women of my church are truly the most radiant of roses.

I'm more like a sad hydrangea personally.

Flowers, and plants in general are right wing.

Tattoos are left wing.

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

The selfish, unruly American populace must be forced to learn its place and learn to obey lawful authority or else.

Yes, well I think those people are subversive troublemakers and ought to be supressed by whatever lawful means possible.

keep going im nearly there

[Fahran]

Iran was teetering on that edge in January, I can’t imagine what they’re thinking right now.

"Hey, Abdelqassim!"

"Yes, Ruhollah?"

"Do you think we look tough if we threaten to shut down the strait?"

"Totes, bro."

"That won't have any negative consequences, right?"

"We're not going to actually do it. Ruhollah, it's like you don't even think. Of course we're not going to do it."

[Fahran]

I'm more like a sad hydrangea personally.

Flowers, and plants in general are right wing.

Tattoos are left wing.

What's y'all's favorite flower?

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

Flowers, and plants in general are right wing.

Tattoos are left wing.

What's y'all's favorite flower?

Any that doesn't say "y'all"

My favourite flower is the white rose. The white rose is the symbol of Yorkshire, which is God's Own County and the greatest part of the English speaking world and many other parts of the world besides.

I like orchids as well. But I'm more of a plant person than a flower person.

[Fahran]

It helps that Israel's been using the IR's natural charisma and capability to piss off every neighbor they have that isn't a puppet in every way to make friends. It's likely Arabs won't leave if Israel joins in a possible war with the IR. At least not to the degree they might have back in the first Iraq War.

The Arab governments have to at least pretend to care about the plight of the Palestinians and the existence of the Zionist abomination or whatever such nonsense the fundies are peddling. It's a useful way of galvanizing popular support, and has been consistently since the 1950s. That does seem to be changing a bit, but I'm not certain it's changed that much in twenty years.

[Italios]

"etymological sovereignty" i snorted, we're on like our third iteration of english; your great-great-great-great etc grandfather didn't even know what "j" was

A moment, about my great-great-great-great grandfather — he was at Waterloo. The British heavy cavalry charge by the Union Brigade utterly shattered two Brigades of French infantry, in particular his Regiment destroyed the Brigade of Charles-Francois Bourgeois and captured the eagle of the 105th Line Regiment. The French cuirassiers counter-attacked and drove back the British cavalry. His regiment suffered over fifty percent casualties and he probably did not survive. There's not a lot of information about him and obviously I did not meet him, but my guess is he liked beer, sex and horses. He probably could not read, and would have no need to know of the letter J.

Of course, I am highly literate and have been reading since my eyes could open, and I know the letter J (and all the other letters, and letters in other languages too) but I have never ridden a cavalry horse into a line of French infantry on a Belgian field, so I wonder — how much use is Etymological Sovereignty, really?

Well, in this world, we do not have a lot of dignity. At least one of my ancestor's descendants remembers him favourably. Of course the charge of the British heavy cavalry at Waterloo is now immortal in history as well. I can't do anything nearly as cool as that, not because I'm not physically fit and not brave, but because there is nothing quite as cool to do in our century XXI, but I still need to find dignity, and that dignity is derived from independence, ie Etymological Sovereignty.

my grandparents are cousins lol

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

my grandparents are cousins lol

that explains a lot

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

Guys I am triggered by use of the word Isr*el. Can we use Occupation instead, thanks.

[Cekoviu]

Flowers, and plants in general are right wing.

Tattoos are left wing.

What's y'all's favorite flower?

Toss-up between Rafflesia arnoldii and Ophrys bombyliflora (this is completely unironic btw)

[Fahran]

Any that doesn't say "y'all"

I've always read that people outside the United States find our accents pleasant. And I'm a person.

My favourite flower is the white rose. The white rose is the symbol of Yorkshire, which is God's Own County and the greatest part of the English speaking world and many other parts of the world besides.

I like orchids as well. But I'm more of a plant person than a flower person.

Not bad choices at all. I'm fond of yellow roses, orchids, hydrangeas, lilies, and gardenias. I've always thought red roses and carnations were a bit over-hyped but they're pretty as well, I suppose.

[Aureumterra]

Guys I am triggered by use of the word Isr*el. Can we use Occupation instead, thanks.

Occupation of what?

[Fahran]

Guys I am triggered by use of the word Isr*el. Can we use Occupation instead, thanks.

We're not talking about how we're going to handle China right now though. :^)

[Italios]

my grandparents are cousins lol

that explains a lot

extremely lowbrow response; you should do better with mystical etymological properties

It helps that Israel's been using the IR's natural charisma and capability to piss off every neighbor they have that isn't a puppet in every way to make friends. It's likely Arabs won't leave if Israel joins in a possible war with the IR. At least not to the degree they might have back in the first Iraq War.

The Arab governments have to at least pretend to care about the plight of the Palestinians and the existence of the Zionist abomination or whatever such nonsense the fundies are peddling. It's a useful way of galvanizing popular support, and has been consistently since the 1950s. That does seem to be changing a bit, but I'm not certain it's changed that much in twenty years.

"pretend to care"... cmon

[Salus Maior]

Flowers, and plants in general are right wing.

Tattoos are left wing.

What's y'all's favorite flower?

The Yellow Rose of Texas

[United Muscovite Nations]

A moment, about my great-great-great-great grandfather — he was at Waterloo. The British heavy cavalry charge by the Union Brigade utterly shattered two Brigades of French infantry, in particular his Regiment destroyed the Brigade of Charles-Francois Bourgeois and captured the eagle of the 105th Line Regiment. The French cuirassiers counter-attacked and drove back the British cavalry. His regiment suffered over fifty percent casualties and he probably did not survive. There's not a lot of information about him and obviously I did not meet him, but my guess is he liked beer, sex and horses. He probably could not read, and would have no need to know of the letter J.

Of course, I am highly literate and have been reading since my eyes could open, and I know the letter J (and all the other letters, and letters in other languages too) but I have never ridden a cavalry horse into a line of French infantry on a Belgian field, so I wonder — how much use is Etymological Sovereignty, really?

Well, in this world, we do not have a lot of dignity. At least one of my ancestor's descendants remembers him favourably. Of course the charge of the British heavy cavalry at Waterloo is now immortal in history as well. I can't do anything nearly as cool as that, not because I'm not physically fit and not brave, but because there is nothing quite as cool to do in our century XXI, but I still need to find dignity, and that dignity is derived from independence, ie Etymological Sovereignty.

my grandparents are cousins lol

Given your ancestry that's not surprising, and I don't mean that in a mean way.

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

Any that doesn't say "y'all"

I've always read that people outside the United States find our accents pleasant. And I'm a person.

My favourite flower is the white rose. The white rose is the symbol of Yorkshire, which is God's Own County and the greatest part of the English speaking world and many other parts of the world besides.

I like orchids as well. But I'm more of a plant person than a flower person.

Not bad choices at all. I'm fond of yellow roses, orchids, hydrangeas, lilies, and gardenias. I've always thought red roses and carnations were a bit over-hyped but they're pretty as well, I suppose.

AkSHually, I like American accents. I will not admit it again on this thread or this forum.

Flowers can look nice and smell good. They're a good thing to have in a home. There are always flowers in our home.

There are plants as well. I like plants.

Thing about plants and flowers is: they require care and dedication to grow and maintain. The more care and investment, the more you get out of them. They need patience and discipline, but they can fruit into something that massively improves your home. Flowers and plants are also found in nature and have all kinds of ambient health benefits. Their meanings, both cultural and literary, are well known and shareable between cultures and between people. It is civilised and polite to give people flowers. Flowers and plants are right wing, tattoos are left wing.

[Northern Davincia]

Guys I am triggered by use of the word Isr*el. Can we use Occupation instead, thanks.

Occupation of what?

The modern equivalent of Germania.

[Fahran]

"pretend to care"... cmon

If it was a major priority, we'd have a good deal more conventional warfare in the area and wouldn't have multiple Arab states acknowledging, formally or tacitly, Israel's role in the international community.

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

extremely lowbrow response; you should do better with mystical etymological properties

You are failing to understand me — I'm not a highbrow philosophical religious rightist, I'm actually a crude, lowbrow leftist, I just have etymological sovereignty.