RWDT XX: The System Is Kapp Putsch

[Cekoviu]

except how do you deal with homo- and bisexuals

Everyone must drink alone in separate booths.

goddamn individualists and your isolation kink

[Diopolis]

So men and women should drink separately.

except how do you deal with homo- and bisexuals

Legal penalties.
Did you forget you're dealing with old Dio?

By relocating drinking from bars to private homes, that's how.

i'd be okay with that, but if people are allowed to personally own alcohol (which this system would require), i'd worry that public intoxication will increase or stagnate and we don't want that

Public flogging for public intoxication.

[Fahran]

yes, teaching people about consent reduces the occurrence of sexual assault when a person is sober or otherwise working at full capacity, but the point of drinking is that it weakens boundaries and inhibits proper decision-making.

Given the study I was referencing applied specifically to fraternity men and given most instances of sexual assault involve alcohol anyhow, I'm not certain that the logical conclusion was that teaching consent only worked in instances of complete sobriety. In fact, appreciating the importance of consent and knowing how to pursue sexual and romantic relationships probably have an impact even when inhibitions are lowered.

the kind of person who would have a tough guy "i'm okay to drive" attitude is likely not going to be receptive to shaming -- look at how defensive that type of man gets when anyone brings up the phrase "toxic masculinity" and think about how you'd manage to get them to not be overconfident in their driving abilities

Men get defensive when we bring up toxic masculinity because it's a nebulous term that they perceive as attacking their fundamental nature and that most people never bother to clarify or define in any meaningful way. About half the time I've seen it used people are specifically attacking vestiges of traditional masculinity for next to no reason. With regard to tough guys, I think we have to appreciate that cultural shifts are as applicable to them as anyone else while contemplating what matters to them as people. Cultural shifts did away with dueling after all - and, if tough guys can accept not being able to murder each other, I think we can get them to call Ubers.

imagine believing in gr**co-roman paganism in 2020, even ironically. smdh fahran, you're better than this

This is how Theban kings get ripped apart, Cek.

[Luminesa]

yes, teaching people about consent reduces the occurrence of sexual assault when a person is sober or otherwise working at full capacity, but the point of drinking is that it weakens boundaries and inhibits proper decision-making.

So men and women should drink separately.

The kind of person who would have a tough guy "i'm okay to drive" attitude is likely not going to be receptive to shaming -- look at how defensive that type of man gets when anyone brings up the phrase "toxic masculinity" and think about how you'd manage to get them to not be overconfident in their driving abilities

By relocating drinking from bars to private homes, that's how.

I’m gonna drink (mostly iced tea) sitting by whoever I want, and if they’re rude that’s not something that can be blamed on me.

[Luminesa]

Everyone must drink alone in separate booths.

goddamn individualists and your isolation kink

I like booths, they support my back better than normal seats, and if you eat too much and nobody is sitting next to you, you can lie down in the booth and stretch your tummy.

[Northern Davincia]

Everyone must drink alone in separate booths.

goddamn individualists and your isolation kink

Don't shame me.

[Fahran]

I’m gonna drink (mostly iced tea) sitting by whoever I want, and if they’re rude that’s not something that can be blamed on me.

Mostly? Lumi, we all know you spike your iced tea with tequila.

[Luminesa]

I’m gonna drink (mostly iced tea) sitting by whoever I want, and if they’re rude that’s not something that can be blamed on me.

Mostly? Lumi, we all know you spike your iced tea with tequila.

Tequila’s gross, no thank you.

[Diopolis]

So men and women should drink separately.

By relocating drinking from bars to private homes, that's how.

I’m gonna drink (mostly iced tea) sitting by whoever I want, and if they’re rude that’s not something that can be blamed on me.

Could we compromise with plexiglass screens in between?
How about if we say it's to stop the spread of the ccp virus?

[Luminesa]

I’m gonna drink (mostly iced tea) sitting by whoever I want, and if they’re rude that’s not something that can be blamed on me.

Could we compromise with plexiglass screens in between?
How about if we say it's to stop the spread of the ccp virus?

I mean no, don't sit flipping on top of each other, I think the bar can make that happen by spreading the seating out a little bit if they want to fix that.

[New haven america]

yes, teaching people about consent reduces the occurrence of sexual assault when a person is sober or otherwise working at full capacity, but the point of drinking is that it weakens boundaries and inhibits proper decision-making.

So men and women should drink separately.

The kind of person who would have a tough guy "i'm okay to drive" attitude is likely not going to be receptive to shaming -- look at how defensive that type of man gets when anyone brings up the phrase "toxic masculinity" and think about how you'd manage to get them to not be overconfident in their driving abilities

By relocating drinking from bars to private homes, that's how.

Actually, a lot of areas consider a woman getting even slightly intoxicated and having sex with a guy as rape on his part regardless of his possible intoxication level or area of where it happened or where they got intoxicated.

[Cekoviu]

So men and women should drink separately.

By relocating drinking from bars to private homes, that's how.

Actually, a lot of areas consider a woman getting even slightly intoxicated and having sex with a guy as rape on his part regardless of his possible intoxication level or area of where it happened or where they got intoxicated.

aKsHuAlLy what about this completely irrelevant weaselly nonsense

[New haven america]

Actually, a lot of areas consider a woman getting even slightly intoxicated and having sex with a guy as rape on his part regardless of his possible intoxication level or area of where it happened or where they got intoxicated.

aKsHuAlLy what about this completely irrelevant weaselly nonsense

It makes their points that drinking in private or seperationism isn't actually going to legally lower the amount of sexual assault during intoxication through alcohol because any sex done while intoxicated can be considered rape even if it's only slightly or was agreed to beforehand.

Come on, I expect better from you, next time you post aKsHuAlLy I expect a worthwhile point or idea.

[Kowani]

So men and women should drink separately.

By relocating drinking from bars to private homes, that's how.

Actually, a lot of areas consider a woman getting even slightly intoxicated and having sex with a guy as rape on his part regardless of his possible intoxication level or area of where it happened or where they got intoxicated.

And this is relevant to what Dio said…how?

[New haven america]

Actually, a lot of areas consider a woman getting even slightly intoxicated and having sex with a guy as rape on his part regardless of his possible intoxication level or area of where it happened or where they got intoxicated.

And this is relevant to what Dio said…how?

aKsHuAlLy what about this completely irrelevant weaselly nonsense

It makes their points that drinking in private or seperationism isn't actually going to legally lower the amount of sexual assault during intoxication through alcohol because any sex done while intoxicated can be considered rape even if it's only slightly or was agreed to beforehand.

Come on, I expect better from you, next time you post aKsHuAlLy I expect a worthwhile point or idea.

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[Cisairse]

yes, teaching people about consent reduces the occurrence of sexual assault when a person is sober or otherwise working at full capacity, but the point of drinking is that it weakens boundaries and inhibits proper decision-making.

So men and women should drink separately.

The kind of person who would have a tough guy "i'm okay to drive" attitude is likely not going to be receptive to shaming -- look at how defensive that type of man gets when anyone brings up the phrase "toxic masculinity" and think about how you'd manage to get them to not be overconfident in their driving abilities

By relocating drinking from bars to private homes, that's how.

A better solution is to move people from unurban areas into urban areas, where you can walk home drunk and not have an issue.

[New haven america]

So men and women should drink separately.

By relocating drinking from bars to private homes, that's how.

A better solution is to move people from unurban areas into urban areas, where you can walk home drunk and not have an issue.

Actually, in American cities at least most people find it less safe to go home drunk than in sub-urban areas.

[Cisairse]

A better solution is to move people from unurban areas into urban areas, where you can walk home drunk and not have an issue.

Actually, in American cities at least most people find it less safe to go home drunk than in sub-urban areas.

I've never had an issue.

[Salus Maior]

I only really like wine, tbh. I don't make a habit of drinking, though.

[Diopolis]

aKsHuAlLy what about this completely irrelevant weaselly nonsense

It makes their points that drinking in private or seperationism isn't actually going to legally lower the amount of sexual assault during intoxication through alcohol because any sex done while intoxicated can be considered rape even if it's only slightly or was agreed to beforehand.

Come on, I expect better from you, next time you post aKsHuAlLy I expect a worthwhile point or idea.

The idea being that there aren't any women around to have sex with.

[Kowani]

And this is relevant to what Dio said…how?

It makes their points that drinking in private or seperationism isn't actually going to legally lower the amount of sexual assault during intoxication through alcohol because any sex done while intoxicated can be considered rape even if it's only slightly or was agreed to beforehand.

Come on, I expect better from you, next time you post aKsHuAlLy I expect a worthwhile point or idea.

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…If people are drinking separately, sexual activity is less likely to happen.

[New haven america]

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…If people are drinking separately, sexual activity is less likely to happen.

Depends as what you define as separately: Different rooms, different buildings, different areas of town? Also, that doesn't change the fact that drinking in private doesn't help with that because the law still applies regardless of where the person got drunk.

Also, drunk people are really good at finding other drunk people out and about.

So no, Dio's laws won't actually do much to help in that case.

[Diopolis]

…If people are drinking separately, sexual activity is less likely to happen.

Depends as what you define as separately: Different rooms, different buildings, different areas of town? Also, that doesn't change the fact that drinking in private doesn't help with that because the law still applies regardless of where the person got drunk.

Also, drunk people are really good at finding other drunk people out and about.

So no, Dio's laws won't actually do much to help in that case.

The whole point being that there won't be drunk people out and about...?

[Cisairse]

Depends as what you define as separately: Different rooms, different buildings, different areas of town? Also, that doesn't change the fact that drinking in private doesn't help with that because the law still applies regardless of where the person got drunk.

Also, drunk people are really good at finding other drunk people out and about.

So no, Dio's laws won't actually do much to help in that case.

The whole point being that there won't be drunk people out and about...?

What is preventing someone from getting drunk at home and then leaving their home?

[Washington Resistance Army]

The whole point being that there won't be drunk people out and about...?

What is preventing someone from getting drunk at home and then leaving their home?

Knowing Dio? Probably the risk of flogging lol.