RWDT XX: The System Is Kapp Putsch

[Cekoviu]

well, more specifically and accurately, the original Thomas and Friends was essentially authoritarian ethnicist propaganda, not fascist per se, and the current show is less bad

fucking what.

how the fuck is a show about fucking trains ethnicist propaganda

Read the chapter “A Very Useful Engine: The Politics of Thomas and Friends" by Shauna Wilton from the book The Politics of Popular Culture: Negotiating Power, Identity, and Place.

TL;DR: The show creates a discriminatory hierarchy between diesel and steam engines wherein the former are subservient to the latter, among other hierarchical traits (diagram from the chapter in question):

Diesel and steam engines are class or ethnic stand-ins, representing the poor and rich/middle-class or non-white and white respectively. The naked discrimination perpetuated by the steam engines can be subtly absorbed by young minds to create an environment in which they feel comfortable discriminating against those viewed as the "lesser class."

Furthermore, the authority of Sir Topham Hatt and other higher-ups is unquestionable and the retribution for refusing to adhere perfectly to their demands is extremely harsh -- the example used by the New Yorker article under discussion is Smudger being made unable to move for a minor behavioral infraction. This is emblematic of a bourgeois capitalist belief system in which workers are mere tools for managers, nothing more.

[Cekoviu]

Also why are we so inconsistent?
Some public schools teachers rape kids. Defund teachers and ban them from TV?
Some doctors and nurses kill patients. Defund hospitals and ban hospitals shows?

Is child rape ingrained in the fabric of teaching as an institution in this country? And likewise for murder in healthcare?

This is completely disingenuous.

[Loben The 2nd]

fucking what.

how the fuck is a show about fucking trains ethnicist propaganda

Read the chapter “A Very Useful Engine: The Politics of Thomas and Friends" by Shauna Wilton from the book The Politics of Popular Culture: Negotiating Power, Identity, and Place.

TL;DR: The show creates a discriminatory hierarchy between diesel and steam engines wherein the former are subservient to the latter, among other hierarchical traits (diagram from the chapter in question):

Diesel and steam engines are class or ethnic stand-ins, representing the poor and rich/middle-class or non-white and white respectively. The naked discrimination perpetuated by the steam engines can be subtly absorbed by young minds to create an environment in which they feel comfortable discriminating against those viewed as the "lesser class."

Furthermore, the authority of Sir Topham Hatt and other higher-ups is unquestionable and the retribution for refusing to adhere perfectly to their demands is extremely harsh -- the example used by the New Yorker article under discussion is Smudger being made unable to move for a minor behavioral infraction. This is emblematic of a bourgeois capitalist belief system in which workers are mere tools for managers, nothing more.

i think i lost brain cells.

plus why should i take a study by a fuckin sociology professor seriously?

[Cekoviu]

Read the chapter “A Very Useful Engine: The Politics of Thomas and Friends" by Shauna Wilton from the book The Politics of Popular Culture: Negotiating Power, Identity, and Place.

TL;DR: The show creates a discriminatory hierarchy between diesel and steam engines wherein the former are subservient to the latter, among other hierarchical traits (diagram from the chapter in question):

Diesel and steam engines are class or ethnic stand-ins, representing the poor and rich/middle-class or non-white and white respectively. The naked discrimination perpetuated by the steam engines can be subtly absorbed by young minds to create an environment in which they feel comfortable discriminating against those viewed as the "lesser class."

Furthermore, the authority of Sir Topham Hatt and other higher-ups is unquestionable and the retribution for refusing to adhere perfectly to their demands is extremely harsh -- the example used by the New Yorker article under discussion is Smudger being made unable to move for a minor behavioral infraction. This is emblematic of a bourgeois capitalist belief system in which workers are mere tools for managers, nothing more.

i think i lost brain cells.

You clearly haven't read the chapter in question given the amount of time this response took, so it seems unfair to hold me accountable for your failure to engage in the argument and ensuing loss of intelligence :^)

[Valrifell]

Also why are we so inconsistent?
Some public schools teachers rape kids. Defund teachers and ban them from TV?
Some doctors and nurses kill patients. Defund hospitals and ban hospitals shows?

Because teachers touching students don't have defenders in the same way cops brutalizing people do.
Because doctors and nurses aren't actively trying to harm their patients (unless they're serial killers), unlike in several instances of police brutality we have on display.

The issues you mentioned aren't comparable for those reasons, so it's pretty consistent.

[South Odreria 2]

Apparently Sodom or whatever the train place is called resembles North Korea where the trains must worship the fat controller and are constantly told that they are in the happiest land on Earth and that everywhere else is much worse

[Cekoviu]

Apparently Sodom or whatever the train place is called resembles North Korea where the trains must worship the fat controller and are constantly told that they are in the happiest land on Earth and that everywhere else is much worse

it is called Sodor, although the extent of the sexual crimes there does make one wonder

[Loben The 2nd]

i think i lost brain cells.

You clearly haven't read the chapter in question given the amount of time this response took, so it seems unfair to hold me accountable for your failure to engage in the argument and ensuing loss of intelligence :^)

not my fault someone looks for hidding meaning behind a fucking kidshow and made a chapter over it.

*especially* someone who didnt bother looking up the author, the environment he grew up in or the fact that he originally wrote the books for his son.

but no, were all supposed to believe that it was all a ethnofacist wet dream because some fat pudgy white cunt from alberta thinks so.

[Cekoviu]

You clearly haven't read the chapter in question given the amount of time this response took, so it seems unfair to hold me accountable for your failure to engage in the argument and ensuing loss of intelligence :^)

not my fault someone looks for hidding meaning behind a fucking kidshow and made a chapter over it.

*especially* someone who didnt bother looking up the author, the environment he grew up in or the fact that he originally wrote the books for his son.

but no, were all supposed to believe that it was all a ethnofacist wet dream because some fat pudgy white cunt from alberta thinks so.

Appears she and I struck a nerve. Do you need a safe space?

[Northern Davincia]

Also why are we so inconsistent?
Some public schools teachers rape kids. Defund teachers and ban them from TV?
Some doctors and nurses kill patients. Defund hospitals and ban hospitals shows?

Because teachers touching students don't have defenders in the same way cops brutalizing people do.
Because doctors and nurses aren't actively trying to harm their patients (unless they're serial killers), unlike in several instances of police brutality we have on display.

The issues you mentioned aren't comparable for those reasons, so it's pretty consistent.

Actually, teacher's unions frequently defend predators.

[Cekoviu]

Because teachers touching students don't have defenders in the same way cops brutalizing people do.
Because doctors and nurses aren't actively trying to harm their patients (unless they're serial killers), unlike in several instances of police brutality we have on display.

The issues you mentioned aren't comparable for those reasons, so it's pretty consistent.

Actually, teacher's unions frequently defend predators.

They lack the same protections under the law as police, though.
That's not to say those aren't a problem, they're just not quite the same thing.

[Northern Davincia]

Actually, teacher's unions frequently defend predators.

They lack the same protections under the law as police, though.
That's not to say those aren't a problem, they're just not quite the same thing.

Fair enough.

[Novus America]

Because it seems very few care about anything but batshit insanity hash tags and three word slogans and hashtags I have decide to drop all my detailed policy police in favor of thermonuclear carpet bombing. Is #thermonuclearcarpetbombing batshit insane enough a solution for the post modern world?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Because it seems very few care about anything but batshit insanity hash tags and three word slogans and hashtags I have decide to drop all my detailed policy police in favor of thermonuclear carpet bombing. Is #thermonucleatcarpetbombing batshit insane enough a solution for the post modern world?

yes

[Northern Davincia]

Because it seems very few care about anything but batshit insanity hash tags and three word slogans and hashtags I have decide to drop all my detailed policy police in favor of thermonuclear carpet bombing. Is #thermonucleatcarpetbombing batshit insane enough a solution for the post modern world?

The giant meteor is better, it does not involve human guilt.

[Loben The 2nd]

not my fault someone looks for hidding meaning behind a fucking kidshow and made a chapter over it.

*especially* someone who didnt bother looking up the author, the environment he grew up in or the fact that he originally wrote the books for his son.

but no, were all supposed to believe that it was all a ethnofacist wet dream because some fat pudgy white cunt from alberta thinks so.

Appears she and I struck a nerve.

youre goddamned right you did.

[Valrifell]

Because it seems very few care about anything but batshit insanity hash tags and three word slogans and hashtags I have decide to drop all my detailed policy police in favor of thermonuclear carpet bombing. Is #thermonucleatcarpetbombing batshit insane enough a solution for the post modern world?

I'm sorry that you think politics was ever anything other than infecting people with a particular brain bug to get them to vote for whatever.

Slogans get votes and sway minds, detailed treatises of politics have been a weird ideal for political movements that hasn't been realized in over two-hundred years. That is, of course, not to say that no political movement for the last 200 years had any policy weight to it, that'd be silly, but rather that the majority of the people under those umbrellas were left with the impression of where the movement was headed and the broad goal (IE three word slogans) and not four-thousand word essays on why rights are good, actually.

[Salus Maior]

You clearly haven't read the chapter in question given the amount of time this response took, so it seems unfair to hold me accountable for your failure to engage in the argument and ensuing loss of intelligence :^)

not my fault someone looks for hidding meaning behind a fucking kidshow and made a chapter over it.

*especially* someone who didnt bother looking up the author, the environment he grew up in or the fact that he originally wrote the books for his son.

but no, were all supposed to believe that it was all a ethnofacist wet dream because some fat pudgy white cunt from alberta thinks so.

That's what journalists do to make a buck.

[Loben The 2nd]

not my fault someone looks for hidding meaning behind a fucking kidshow and made a chapter over it.

*especially* someone who didnt bother looking up the author, the environment he grew up in or the fact that he originally wrote the books for his son.

but no, were all supposed to believe that it was all a ethnofacist wet dream because some fat pudgy white cunt from alberta thinks so.

That's what journalists do to make a buck.

this woman is not even a fucking journalist

shes a fucking "academic" who i suspect has a serious mental deficiency.

[Washington Resistance Army]

That's what journalists do to make a buck.

this woman is not even a fucking journalist

shes a fucking "academic" who i suspect has a serious mental deficiency.

Can you really say that when you didn't even read it lol

[Valrifell]

That's what journalists do to make a buck.

this woman is not even a fucking journalist

shes a fucking "academic" who i suspect has a serious mental deficiency.

Oh, did someone have a thesis you disagree with about a children's show? How sad.

[Loben The 2nd]

this woman is not even a fucking journalist

shes a fucking "academic" who i suspect has a serious mental deficiency.

Can you really say that when you didn't even read it lol

yep.

[Loben The 2nd]

this woman is not even a fucking journalist

shes a fucking "academic" who i suspect has a serious mental deficiency.

Oh, did someone have a thesis you disagree with about a children's show? How sad.

a childrens show i spent my childhood watching yes.

[Valrifell]

Oh, did someone have a thesis you disagree with about a children's show? How sad.

a childrens show i spent my childhood watching yes.

I'm a bit concerned you feel such an attachment to this show, tbh. Should we search your house for train costumes?

[Novus America]

Actually, teacher's unions frequently defend predators.

They lack the same protections under the law as police, though.
That's not to say those aren't a problem, they're just not quite the same thing.

They certainly get a ton of protections and the union often covers for the abuses and prevent any accountability.

It never was about consistency lets be honest, most the rainbow red guards never were about consistency.