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Which alcoholic beverage is the most right-wing?

Wine (Blood and Body?)
23
21%
Beer
22
21%
Vodka
6
6%
Mead
12
11%
Whiskey/Whisky
18
17%
Scotch (option included for Questers and old people)
9
8%
Rakı (option included specifically for Marches)
4
4%
Seltzers/Hard Ciders (because the Claw is the LAW)
5
5%
Gin
4
4%
Other (Rum/Brandy/Cognac/Tequila)
4
4%
 
Total votes : 107

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Fahran
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Postby Fahran » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:44 pm

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:I'm not alien to social conservatism, but I want to see social conservatives present it exactly as it is and say it exactly as they mean it. I don't see a point otherwise.

Fair enough. I don't believe that's an unreasonable request on its own. With regard to forcing others to abide by a principle, my expressed preference is to establish cultural conventions that create a stigma on irresponsible, reckless, or non-virtuous behaviors. A big component in my rejection of a distinction between personal and social harm is that I believe that personal harm almost invariably becomes social harm, especially if those mistakes that one ought to reflect on are never reflected on because we deem those mistakes neutral or even good as opposed to bad. If a person drinks excessively and abuses their spouse, this may occur within the confines of the domestic sphere but the effects will surely not be confined to them alone because people do not exist as islands. I think casual sex is the same in a lot of ways, even with the quibbling over consent.

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Postby Communal concils » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:45 pm

Imperium Romanum Sanctis wrote:
Italios wrote:Im pretty sure old tom has spoken on his use of nazi imagery in his homoerotica, and he's said (and i believe him) that he doesn't support, he just likes the aesthetics. well, okay. but it raises some questions why specifically fascism, the ideology that sentenced thousands of gays to death, has managed to get its tendrils into homosexual culture (and i dont mean this in a derogatory way, just an encompassing term for art, club culture, etc). you certainly dont see the same thing with soviets. and you never see jews, disabled people etc into the nazi aesthetic (slavs can be, which also deserves consideration). its weird


I don't think you're necessarily right about the Soviets.

Most modern tankies are people Stalin probably would have sent to the gulags.

At the end of the day, extremist and deviant personalities tend to crave a strong, authoritarian figure telling them what to do. Sometimes that translates into subconscious cravings for a meth-addicted German in a tight black leather uniform to sheathe a certain part of his body into their virgin loins.

Or in the case of hardline Communists, for a big, burly, vodka-infused Russian to ride them like a Polish maid.



Your absolutely right, I get angry time when fellow leftist talk about their identity politics and their simplistic nonsense . It is always funny to see MLs wave the pride flag,and they get angry every time when I show them that their libertine behaviors are revisionist. Stalin would've denounce them.
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Postby Imperium Romanum Sanctis » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:46 pm

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:
Imperium Romanum Sanctis wrote:Most modern tankies are people Stalin probably would have sent to the gulags.

not me ^.^


Everyone thinks they're on Uncle Joe's good list, until the NKVD comes knocking.

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Postby Fahran » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:47 pm

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:Scotch (option included for Questers and old people)

wow

my desk when I was living alone tho

I like your shelf except the cigarettes.

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Postby Diopolis » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:47 pm

Cekoviu wrote:ok, new subject per request: jeggings. thoughts?

Leggings should be underwear, and stay that way.
Not normal out and about clothes.
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Postby Communal concils » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:48 pm

I must say that one of the few things that many right-wingers do right is denounce the social values of Neo-liberalism. The Left is castrated and the left is weaken by petty moralism that has its origins on Liberalism.
Woke Leftist: Anti-Liberal Leftist

List of liberal or semi-liberal ideologies to avoid: "Left"-communism, trotskyism, Intersectionalism, anarchism,classical liberal, social liberalism and economic liberalism( conservatives are addicted to this)

Become anti-woke, and free yourself from the lies of mainstream corporate consumerist media.you should also become an anti-consumerist and anti-capitalist. Embrace socialism( the command economy is better.)
NOTE: Make Cultural Marxism a Real Thing !

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Postby Fahran » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:48 pm

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:what a surprise, anality from GERMANS

Perhaps Hannah Arendt should have dropped the B from her famous article on Eichmann?

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Postby Cisairse » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:49 pm

Communal concils wrote:I must say that one of the few things that many right-wingers do right is denounce the social values of Neo-liberalism. The Left is castrated and the left is weaken by petty moralism that has its origins on Liberalism.


neoliberals aren't "the left" they're right-wing
Now it's clear as a pillar of smoke
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And broken Starbucks glass

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Postby Diopolis » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:50 pm

Fahran wrote:
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:Scotch (option included for Questers and old people)

wow

my desk when I was living alone tho

I like your shelf except the cigarettes.

Nothing wrong with some nice healthy tobacco.
But why has it apparently not been cleaned recently?
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Postby Kowani » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:50 pm

Communal concils wrote:
Imperium Romanum Sanctis wrote:
I don't think you're necessarily right about the Soviets.

Most modern tankies are people Stalin probably would have sent to the gulags.

At the end of the day, extremist and deviant personalities tend to crave a strong, authoritarian figure telling them what to do. Sometimes that translates into subconscious cravings for a meth-addicted German in a tight black leather uniform to sheathe a certain part of his body into their virgin loins.

Or in the case of hardline Communists, for a big, burly, vodka-infused Russian to ride them like a Polish maid.



Your absolutely right, I get angry time when fellow leftist talk about their identity politics and their simplistic nonsense . It is always funny to see MLs wave the pride flag,and they get angry every time when I show them that their libertine behaviors are revisionist. Stalin would've denounce them.

Almost as if Stalin was a traitor to the revolution and a bloody butcher whose opinions on LGBT+ people should be listened to about as the old French Army on uniform colors. None.
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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:51 pm

Fahran wrote:
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:Scotch (option included for Questers and old people)

wow

my desk when I was living alone tho

I like your shelf except the cigarettes.

2016 was a bad year for me

it was literally just 60 hr work weeks, johnnie walker, reading books like that and stuff that the RWDT would hang me for
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Postby Fahran » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:51 pm

Cekoviu wrote:ok, new subject per request: jeggings. thoughts?

I've worn them before but I tend to prefer proper jeans or wearing my tights with dresses/skirts. I probably don't have strong opinions on them compared to most people here. I think they're something that's casual and probably a bit immature. Yes, I have the soul of a Karen.

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Postby Diopolis » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:51 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Communal concils wrote:I must say that one of the few things that many right-wingers do right is denounce the social values of Neo-liberalism. The Left is castrated and the left is weaken by petty moralism that has its origins on Liberalism.


neoliberals aren't "the left" they're right-wing

When you go far enough left, the whole world is right.
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:52 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
neoliberals aren't "the left" they're right-wing

When you go far enough left, the whole world is right.

I love how that only works for the left and right wingers are always moderate.
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:52 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:ok, new subject per request: jeggings. thoughts?

Leggings should be underwear, and stay that way.
Not normal out and about clothes.

hard disagree. leggings are the best solution for bottoms if you want to remain warm, look decent, and be comfortable (unless you are doing hard physical labor). they are also often cheaper than full p*nts or dresses/long skirts, which is important if you are frugal and/or poor
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Postby Kowani » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:52 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
neoliberals aren't "the left" they're right-wing

When you go far enough left, the whole world is right.

That’s really not true.
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Postby Communal concils » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:52 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Communal concils wrote:I must say that one of the few things that many right-wingers do right is denounce the social values of Neo-liberalism. The Left is castrated and the left is weaken by petty moralism that has its origins on Liberalism.


neoliberals aren't "the left" they're right-wing




I agree. However, you must realize that words change all the time. People transform concepts constantly , and this applies perfectly to what is and what isn't left-wing. In a way, I'm saying the Neo-liberals have hijacked leftism as a concept, it had reassignment surgery and changed its behaviors to fit something else( a greater agenda).
Woke Leftist: Anti-Liberal Leftist

List of liberal or semi-liberal ideologies to avoid: "Left"-communism, trotskyism, Intersectionalism, anarchism,classical liberal, social liberalism and economic liberalism( conservatives are addicted to this)

Become anti-woke, and free yourself from the lies of mainstream corporate consumerist media.you should also become an anti-consumerist and anti-capitalist. Embrace socialism( the command economy is better.)
NOTE: Make Cultural Marxism a Real Thing !

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Postby Fahran » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:52 pm

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:2016 was a bad year for me

it was literally just 60 hr work weeks, johnnie walker, reading books like that and stuff that the RWDT would hang me for

My condolences. I hope more recent years have been kinder to you.

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Postby Diopolis » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:52 pm

Kowani wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

Your absolutely right, I get angry time when fellow leftist talk about their identity politics and their simplistic nonsense . It is always funny to see MLs wave the pride flag,and they get angry every time when I show them that their libertine behaviors are revisionist. Stalin would've denounce them.

Almost as if Stalin was a traitor to the revolution and a bloody butcher whose opinions on LGBT+ people should be listened to about as the old French Army on uniform colors. None.

On the contrary, Stalin should be listened to about LGBTQIABC types and very little else.
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Postby Fahran » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:53 pm

Kowani wrote:That’s really not true.

Why talk about right and left when there is simply right or wrong? :p

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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:53 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Leggings should be underwear, and stay that way.
Not normal out and about clothes.

hard disagree. leggings are the best solution for bottoms if you want to remain warm, look decent, and be comfortable (unless you are doing hard physical labor). they are also often cheaper than full p*nts or dresses/long skirts, which is important if you are frugal and/or poor

Alternately, shop in places with good sales, and you can get good skirts, pants, and dresses cheap.
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Postby Italios » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:53 pm

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:Scotch (option included for Questers and old people)

wow

my desk when I was living alone tho

you okay
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Postby Diopolis » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:53 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:
Diopolis wrote:When you go far enough left, the whole world is right.

I love how that only works for the left and right wingers are always moderate.

I have never claimed to be moderate.
Indeed, I would be comfortably far to the right in 1789, and I remain as such today.
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Postby Imperium Romanum Sanctis » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:54 pm

Communal concils wrote:
Imperium Romanum Sanctis wrote:
I don't think you're necessarily right about the Soviets.

Most modern tankies are people Stalin probably would have sent to the gulags.

At the end of the day, extremist and deviant personalities tend to crave a strong, authoritarian figure telling them what to do. Sometimes that translates into subconscious cravings for a meth-addicted German in a tight black leather uniform to sheathe a certain part of his body into their virgin loins.

Or in the case of hardline Communists, for a big, burly, vodka-infused Russian to ride them like a Polish maid.



Your absolutely right, I get angry time when fellow leftist talk about their identity politics and their simplistic nonsense . It is always funny to see MLs wave the pride flag,and they get angry every time when I show them that their libertine behaviors are revisionist. Stalin would've denounce them.


Yeah, Western Communism has, for the most part, not been very compatible with the mindset of actually relevant Communist figures like Stalin and Mao. There's an awful lot of modern Leftists with nostalgia for the Soviet Union who would have been denounced as bourgeois and sent to the gulags had they actually lived in the USSR during its heyday. Hell, I doubt they'd have even have fared well during the reigns of post-Stalin leaders like Khrushchev and Brezhnev, who were a bit more lenient when it came to liberal behaviours.

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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:54 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Kowani wrote:Almost as if Stalin was a traitor to the revolution and a bloody butcher whose opinions on LGBT+ people should be listened to about as the old French Army on uniform colors. None.

On the contrary, Stalin should be listened to about LGBTQIABC types and very little else.

stalin wrote this poem
The pinkish bud has opened,
Rushing to the pale-blue violet
And, stirred by a light breeze,
The lily of the valley has bent over the grass.

he's definitely a closet homosexual so you may want to rethink that move there
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