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Which alcoholic beverage is the most right-wing?

Wine (Blood and Body?)
23
21%
Beer
22
21%
Vodka
6
6%
Mead
12
11%
Whiskey/Whisky
18
17%
Scotch (option included for Questers and old people)
9
8%
Rakı (option included specifically for Marches)
4
4%
Seltzers/Hard Ciders (because the Claw is the LAW)
5
5%
Gin
4
4%
Other (Rum/Brandy/Cognac/Tequila)
4
4%
 
Total votes : 107

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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:14 am

Fahran wrote:
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:Nothing's going to happen, other than you're going to keep responding to my posts

Well, I might go ride my horse instead. Once it cools down a bit. Anyway, you got your reply. And a bit quicker than you usually would have given my sloth.

You're even responding to my posts implying I won't respond to yours
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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:15 am

Actually I will reply I'm just drinking (Japanese this time)
REST IN PEACE RWDT & LWDT
I'm just a poor wayfaring stranger, traveling through this world below
There is no sickness, no toil, nor danger, in that bright land to which I go
I'm going there to see my Father, and all my loved ones who've gone on
I'm only going over Jordan, I'm only going over home

I know dark clouds will gather 'round me, I know my way is hard and steep
But beauteous fields arise before me, where God's redeemed, their vigils keep

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Postby Nakena » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:18 am

The next poll should be about something else.

A matter of cultural significance and century old histry and tradition:

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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:25 am

The beer countries want the weather and the women of the wine countries.

The wine countries want the money of the beer countries.

The vodKA OCntrues watng thats tig g p orlbm fukc yu v
REST IN PEACE RWDT & LWDT
I'm just a poor wayfaring stranger, traveling through this world below
There is no sickness, no toil, nor danger, in that bright land to which I go
I'm going there to see my Father, and all my loved ones who've gone on
I'm only going over Jordan, I'm only going over home

I know dark clouds will gather 'round me, I know my way is hard and steep
But beauteous fields arise before me, where God's redeemed, their vigils keep

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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:26 am

Fahran wrote:
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:Nothing's going to happen, other than you're going to keep responding to my posts

Well, I might go ride my horse instead. Once it cools down a bit. Anyway, you got your reply. And a bit quicker than you usually would have given my sloth.

imagine having a horse in 2020

mantises are where it's at yo
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Postby Fahran » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:28 am

Cekoviu wrote:imagine having a horse in 2020

mantises are where it's at yo

Switching to mantises from centipedes, Roach Girl? I might write a little bit about the equestrian arts and horses in poetry from a conservative viewpoint soon since my dance posts never get wide reception aside from UMN telling me that ballet is degenerate.

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Postby Kowani » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:28 am

Cekoviu wrote:

i did not expect kowani and bear stearns to top the charts for PQI. i assume that their presence is essentially an artifact of sampling -- they both simply happened to make several out-of-character effortposts within this span, which boosted their scores significantly.

This would be an insult if it were not entirely true.
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Postby The Marlborough » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:33 am

Chocolate covered ants taste great to be honest. As well, there is a company in my city that actually sells edible insects and they are actually not half bad.
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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:34 am

Fahran wrote:I have asserted in previous discussions that free love and polyamory are not socially advantageous and that their advocates should remain in the minority whatever the cost. I actually jumped into this discussion and raised a couple of issues about sexuality and ethics related to it. Importantly, the absence of objectification doesn't make sexuality moral or ethical by default. It's simply one of many necessary elements.
Yea, you have said it. We know what you think. That's the point. I want you to say it directly, I don't want you to couch it in soclib terms or whatever. You think it's immoral for this to happen? Frankly I think it comes from your religious upbringing, not from a rational ethics. But either is fine. Then make the point. Place a position and stake your reputation on holding it. Treat your own position with more respect.

Fahran wrote:This reminds me of Oakeshott's brand of conservatism more so than Russell Kirk's or the conservatism of the Southern Agrarians. One weakness of conservative paradigms at the moment is that the Overton Window only seriously incorporates liberal paradigms - it's why many socialists and nationalists still "hide their power levels" by masking their policies with discussions of liberal freedom and such. In my case, I was trying to present one element of a broader argument that might sway a particular audience.

It's not that they're "defiling each other's agency." It's that they're ursuing shallow relationships where sexuality is inordinate and improper that are not worth as much as more profound and intimate relationships where sexuality is ordinate and proper. I'm quite insistent on the acknowledgement of disparities in value and worth in this context. And on maintaining that, while vices may be a fact of life, they're still vices and not to be encouraged. Because vices, by their nature, are morally repugnant and harmful to the social fabric when taken to extremes.
Do you think it matters?

Really?

I follow the argument. Really. But I don't think that in the individual instance it matters. I don't think any time I had an ONS I did a disservice to humanity. Maybe to myself. Maybe to the other person. Maybe they did to me too. But not to humanity, and not to public morality. But maybe ten thousand of me doing that would. And that's the point I want to make. The cardinal argument about whether something is good or bad in a vacuum is mastubatory. What matters is how we function as a group of people. If that kind of behaviour makes us function worse, we should eliminate it, or try to, and if better then promote it.

That's all God is. God was always a way to make humans believe in doing things that they don't want to that are good for civilisation because the ancients could see civilisation and anti-civilisation easily. I know that it means more to you and others spiritually and I'm not trying to demean that. Honestly. But at some point, SOMEONE needs to say: you can't do this because I say so because our society can't look like a mirror image of you, and that's it.

Don't you think so?
REST IN PEACE RWDT & LWDT
I'm just a poor wayfaring stranger, traveling through this world below
There is no sickness, no toil, nor danger, in that bright land to which I go
I'm going there to see my Father, and all my loved ones who've gone on
I'm only going over Jordan, I'm only going over home

I know dark clouds will gather 'round me, I know my way is hard and steep
But beauteous fields arise before me, where God's redeemed, their vigils keep

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Postby San Kalungsod Saludong » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:34 am

Fahran wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:imagine having a horse in 2020

mantises are where it's at yo

Switching to mantises from centipedes, Roach Girl? I might write a little bit about the equestrian arts and horses in poetry from a conservative viewpoint soon since my dance posts never get wide reception aside from UMN telling me that ballet is degenerate.


You're a dancer? I went to a performing art High School myself but am more into theatre than dance. Ballet is tough, you need to have really good balance to tip toe but the effect looks graceful and effortless. Stretchings and splits are a pain though.
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:35 am

Fahran wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:imagine having a horse in 2020

mantises are where it's at yo

Switching to mantises from centipedes, Roach Girl? I might write a little bit about the equestrian arts and horses in poetry from a conservative viewpoint soon since my dance posts never get wide reception aside from UMN telling me that ballet is degenerate.

i literally have all three of the arthropods that you just mentioned living in deli cups under 10 feet away from me right now (the mantis is right next to the monitor, my centipede and cockroaches are in the closet). no need to switch when you can have it all!

btw umn is right about ballet being degenerate. it is incredibly uncouth for men to be able to watch the seductive curves of the feminine form salaciously gallivanting around a stage!
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Postby Fahran » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:36 am

The Marlborough wrote:Chocolate covered ants taste great to be honest. As well, there is a company in my city that actually sells edible insects and they are actually not half bad.

I've tried locusts before. They were pretty good actually. I've tried them chocolate-covered and honey-seared, I believe.

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Postby Italios » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:37 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Tbh I gave up on effortposts because no matter how many you did and no matter how many sources you used nobody would be open to changing their opinions and beliefs and it was a waste of time. I'll still talk seriously about a topic if I find it engaging enough but beyond that it's just not really worth the time investment when you can largely make your point in a much shorter post.

honestly i effortpost and respond to effort posts (usually) because my career and education aren't oriented towards history, philosophy and politics, so it's a good way to expand my knowledge and practice what i already know in a casual setting with a relatively high concentration of educated people.

cekoviu, that post was one for the ages and should be included in the OP for future rwdts. outside of the fact that accurately and precisely mapping ns posting habits is probably inherently extrapolated because of the nature of posting (one day a week you spam 20 posts, the other six days nothing for example) it was very well done and im not surprised at who was "statistically" the best poster. joohan, we see you, dont be discouraged, keep posting.
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Postby The Marlborough » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:38 am

Fahran wrote:
The Marlborough wrote:Chocolate covered ants taste great to be honest. As well, there is a company in my city that actually sells edible insects and they are actually not half bad.

I've tried locusts before. They were pretty good actually. I've tried them chocolate-covered and honey-seared, I believe.

I have had BBQ and lemon-lime flavored mealworms that were roasted. They were surprisingly good and made for a nice snack. I know that there is a meme about eating insects in the future, but having actually tried it myself and when I consider the effects of future climate change, I do wonder if they are something that should be incorporated into our diets more.
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Postby San Kalungsod Saludong » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:38 am

What do you think of the Movie "The Black Swan"?
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Postby Fahran » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:38 am

Cekoviu wrote:btw umn is right about ballet being degenerate. it is incredibly uncouth for men to be able to watch the seductive curves of the feminine form salaciously gallivanting around a stage!

What did you just make me read?

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Postby State of Turelisa » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:41 am

The Marlborough wrote:Chocolate covered ants taste great to be honest. As well, there is a company in my city that actually sells edible insects and they are actually not half bad.


When I was a boy, I used to think chocolate covered ants were part of Roald Dahl's wicked imagination after I read Charlie and The Glass Elevator. I can't imagine why people eat them, nor could I bring myself to find out by popping a couple into my mouth. Insects are definitely off the Mosaic menu and outside of my delicate palate.
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Postby San Kalungsod Saludong » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:44 am

I tried eating fried grasshoppers they were delish sorta crunchy.
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Postby Fahran » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:44 am

San Kalungsod Saludong wrote:You're a dancer? I went to a performing art High School myself but am more into theatre than dance. Ballet is tough, you need to have really good balance to tip toe but the effect looks graceful and effortless. Stretchings and splits are a pain though.

I am. I've studied a couple different forms and styles of dance since I was little. I also did gymnastics since I was young and played soccer beginning freshman year of high school. Ballet looks graceful but it's pretty taxing on the body. I know a couple girls who quit for that reason. Standing or dancing on pointe can absolutely devastated your feet, ankles, and legs. I say that from experience. Anyhow, my DMs are always open and I'd love to hear about your experiences with theater. Who knows? I might broaden my horizons a little.

San Kalungsod Saludong wrote:What do you think of the Movie "The Black Swan"?

It's a good movie but I don't think we should really take it as a serious critique or analysis of ballet and its institutions. It's more of a psychological thriller that explores issues of sexuality, identity, stress, and authenticity.
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Postby The Marlborough » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:45 am

State of Turelisa wrote:
The Marlborough wrote:Chocolate covered ants taste great to be honest. As well, there is a company in my city that actually sells edible insects and they are actually not half bad.


When I was a boy, I used to think chocolate covered ants were part of Roald Dahl's wicked imagination after I read Charlie and The Glass Elevator. I can't imagine why people eat them, nor could I bring myself to find out by popping a couple into my mouth. Insects are definitely off the Mosaic menu.

I would ask you to not knock it until you've tried it. They are actually pretty good and chocolaty. The key to insects are frying them, once you've fried them they actually taste really damn good. Fried grasshopper tastes a bit like shrimp for instance but with a crunchy texture.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:47 am

Fahran wrote:
Servilis wrote:asking a bunch of right wingers which videogames they'd like to shit on was a good idea.
i got some unique jokey perspectives.

thank u right wingers...

(ur still not based tho)

Video games are left-wing.

Playing outside is right-wing.

The video game industry is pretty right wing.

I would say that the culture of the video game environment, however, is a weird mixture of culturally left and culturally right wing viewpoints. There is some degree of egalitarianism, in that anyone can be anything, but there are still very existent hierarchies within the culture of most individual game themselves that is rarely transferable to another game, even within the same genre. Take Smash Bros and Street Fighter. Both are fighting games, but the philosophy of each one is different, and so the culture is different.

No, by hierarchy I do not mean tier lists.
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:48 am

Italios wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Tbh I gave up on effortposts because no matter how many you did and no matter how many sources you used nobody would be open to changing their opinions and beliefs and it was a waste of time. I'll still talk seriously about a topic if I find it engaging enough but beyond that it's just not really worth the time investment when you can largely make your point in a much shorter post.

honestly i effortpost and respond to effort posts (usually) because my career and education aren't oriented towards history, philosophy and politics, so it's a good way to expand my knowledge and practice what i already know in a casual setting with a relatively high concentration of educated people.

cekoviu, that post was one for the ages and should be included in the OP for future rwdts. outside of the fact that accurately and precisely mapping ns posting habits is probably inherently extrapolated because of the nature of posting (one day a week you spam 20 posts, the other six days nothing for example) it was very well done and im not surprised at who was "statistically" the best poster. joohan, we see you, dont be discouraged, keep posting.

thanks! i may well do the same sort of analysis for future RWDTs in order to keep it up to date (since this one was only for this thread) and look at trends over time, so get ready for a steady stream of statistical fun
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:49 am

Fahran wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:btw umn is right about ballet being degenerate. it is incredibly uncouth for men to be able to watch the seductive curves of the feminine form salaciously gallivanting around a stage!

What did you just make me read?

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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:53 am

ALSO

Just for the thread record:
Fahran wrote:Well, I might go ride my horse instead. Once it cools down a bit.


In case there was needed any more proof that Fahran is a member of the bourgeoisie
REST IN PEACE RWDT & LWDT
I'm just a poor wayfaring stranger, traveling through this world below
There is no sickness, no toil, nor danger, in that bright land to which I go
I'm going there to see my Father, and all my loved ones who've gone on
I'm only going over Jordan, I'm only going over home

I know dark clouds will gather 'round me, I know my way is hard and steep
But beauteous fields arise before me, where God's redeemed, their vigils keep

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Postby The Archbishopric of York » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:55 am

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State of Turelisa wrote:It's idolatry in my book, and 'my book' is the Bible - Scripture and Gospel and nothing-else. Sola scriptura Catholicism verifies Biblical truth as that which is compatible with Church dogma and authorised by the Church's infallible authority.

>sola scriptura
>Catholicism

You get one.

As a believer in both the thirty-nine articles of religion, which clearly espouse the principal of sola scriptura as properly understood, and in the Apostles' and Nicene Creeds which profess belief in the holy catholic church, I beg to differ.
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Hard no, I can't stand hot weather. The one thing I would change about the UK's climate is how damn humid it is; the moisture in the air makes the summer heat unbearably stifling, and the cold in winter chills you to the bone. Extremes of temperature are much more bearable abroad because of the comparative dryness of the air. I also don't much like beer, mind you. I'm usually a Scotch or rum man, occasionally I'll go for a bourbon or a brandy. I find wine too bitter, unless it's mulled wine in winter or sangria in summer. Mead is pretty good, too.

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