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Which alcoholic beverage is the most right-wing?

Wine (Blood and Body?)
23
21%
Beer
22
21%
Vodka
6
6%
Mead
12
11%
Whiskey/Whisky
18
17%
Scotch (option included for Questers and old people)
9
8%
Rakı (option included specifically for Marches)
4
4%
Seltzers/Hard Ciders (because the Claw is the LAW)
5
5%
Gin
4
4%
Other (Rum/Brandy/Cognac/Tequila)
4
4%
 
Total votes : 107

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The Marlborough
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Postby The Marlborough » Sun Jun 14, 2020 5:57 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Italios wrote:there's literally no such thing as "judeo-christian" anything. the word was literally invented in the '30s-'40s. stop posting cringe.


Judeo-islamo-christian culture has controlled the west for quite some time. It's useful to identify your enemies so you can organize opposition efforts.

Judaism's cultural influence on the West has been pretty minimal. Western Judaism only started to culturally influence *some* parts of the West only relatively recently at a noticeable level, the most prominent example being the United States. The main cultural influences on the West have been Christianity and the Greco-Roman world.
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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Jun 14, 2020 5:58 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Italios wrote:as opposed as the moderation's power to just arbitrarily ban high effort, good faith posters for silly things? what lol


Nothing in the RWDT can be classified as high effort or good faith.

you need to pay more attention, like 85% of posts here are shitposts but the other 15% are basically poli sci dissertations
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Postby Nakena » Sun Jun 14, 2020 5:58 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Theres nothing wrong with that.



Nah the judeo-christian system is absolutly horrid and is an abomination and degradation of human spirituality. It's good that it got cancelled. It continued stranglehold upon wide parts of the world was (and to an extend still is where islam reigns) an disgrace to this world, to both man and to countless other beings, gods and spirits living along with us on this world and who all have suffered for too long under its false yoke.

That has now an end thankfully. :twisted:


There is no such thing as "Judeo-Christian", for a number of reasons.

1) It was originally Cold War propaganda used to get American Jews on board with supporting the struggle against the USSR (many Jews were originally sympathetic towards the Soviets)
2) It later became part of anti-Islamic propaganda, even though Judaism has more in common with Islam than it does with Christianity, and within Israel, Christians tend to side with Muslim over Jews
3) It is used to excuse Israel's complete stranglehold on our State Department


I ususally prefer the term Abrahamism. For me from an outsider perspective, there isn't a hella lot of difference between the three religions. I perceive them, sort of as different versions of the same O/S. With judaism basically the limited, closed beta. The rest then upgrades for the universal consumption. With Islam the supposed last one. (which why further spinoffs such as Bahaiism or even the Ahmadiyya (who keep upgrading) got such viciously attacked, because there isnt supposed to be anything after version 3.0)

As for the term "judeo-christian";

I am honestly surprised that the term is being overhelmingly rejected. Most times I noticed it its when like people are like "uh oh must defend western civilization" or maybe even "christendom" against le Islam. But then the judeo part is added to include israel and mare sure it doesnt comes across as antisemitic. IMHO its more of a term belonging to the bush decade and the shitty counter-jihadhist movement afaik. (which was full pro-israel)
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Jun 14, 2020 5:59 pm

Nakena wrote:
I ususally prefer the term Abrahamism. For me from an outsider perspective, there isn't a hella lot of difference between the three religions.


Because you're incredibly ignorant on the subject.
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Postby Italios » Sun Jun 14, 2020 5:59 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Italios wrote:as opposed as the moderation's power to just arbitrarily ban high effort, good faith posters for silly things? what lol


Nothing in the RWDT can be classified as high effort or good faith.

you know what, this is actually annoying. like two pages back we were actually talking about the state of modern conservatives with a degree of seriousness - making observations in regards to the current political climate, etc - and then you come in here claiming we don't post anything good. yet it's literally you who never actually talks politics and just snipes about people. just fucking stop.
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Joohan
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Postby Joohan » Sun Jun 14, 2020 5:59 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Italios wrote:sorry who are you?


A lurker waiting for someone in the RWDT to do something offensive to I can report it to moderation and get you all banned, obviously.


They're both jokes
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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Jun 14, 2020 5:59 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:i do have real beliefs, it's just that i hide them in a thick shroud of irony because my greatest fear is vulnerability :^)
wrong, you're wrong, we are having a disagree


If I can make a guess as to what stance you're taking; is it that as much as you dislike traditional Western Christian influence on the West, you dislike the Progressivist vision for society a lot more?

pretty much - not a huge fan of western christianity, but its presence is vastly preferable to widespread atheism and and an amoral populace as certain turboprogressives advocate
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Postby Sundiata » Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:00 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
If I can make a guess as to what stance you're taking; is it that as much as you dislike traditional Western Christian influence on the West, you dislike the Progressivist vision for society a lot more?

pretty much - not a huge fan of western christianity, but its presence is vastly preferable to widespread atheism and and an amoral populace as certain turboprogressives advocate

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Postby Cisairse » Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:01 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
If I can make a guess as to what stance you're taking; is it that as much as you dislike traditional Western Christian influence on the West, you dislike the Progressivist vision for society a lot more?

pretty much - not a huge fan of western christianity, but its presence is vastly preferable to widespread atheism and and an amoral populace as certain turboprogressives advocate

atheists aren't "amoral"

also turboprogressives are last year's model, we've upgraded to superchargers now
Now it's clear as a pillar of smoke
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Postby Bear Stearns » Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:01 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Italios wrote:as opposed as the moderation's power to just arbitrarily ban high effort, good faith posters for silly things? what lol


Nothing in the RWDT can be classified as high effort or good faith.


Then why you do pollute the thread with your takes?
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Valrifell
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:01 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Nothing in the RWDT can be classified as high effort or good faith.

you need to pay more attention, like 85% of posts here are shitposts but the other 15% are basically poli sci dissertations


I just don't find them very good
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Valrifell
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:01 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Nothing in the RWDT can be classified as high effort or good faith.


Then why you do pollute the thread with your takes?


A bit hard to pollute a tar pit, innit?
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Cekoviu
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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:01 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:pretty much - not a huge fan of western christianity, but its presence is vastly preferable to widespread atheism and and an amoral populace as certain turboprogressives advocate

atheists aren't "amoral"

also turboprogressives are last year's model, we've upgraded to superchargers now

yeah, atheism isn't inherently amoral, but i'm pretty sure your stances in particular are
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Postby New haven america » Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:02 pm

The Marlborough wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
Judeo-islamo-christian culture has controlled the west for quite some time. It's useful to identify your enemies so you can organize opposition efforts.

Judaism's cultural influence on the West has been pretty minimal. Western Judaism only started to culturally influence *some* parts of the West only relatively recently at a noticeable level, the most prominent example being the United States. The main cultural influences on the West have been Christianity and the Greco-Roman world.

What religion did Christianity break off from?
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Postby Cisairse » Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:02 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Cisairse wrote:atheists aren't "amoral"

also turboprogressives are last year's model, we've upgraded to superchargers now

yeah, atheism isn't inherently amoral, but i'm pretty sure your stances in particular are

I accept this.
Now it's clear as a pillar of smoke
The details of the above post are subject to leftist infighting.

And broken Starbucks glass

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Postby Valrifell » Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:02 pm

Italios wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Nothing in the RWDT can be classified as high effort or good faith.

you know what, this is actually annoying. like two pages back we were actually talking about the state of modern conservatives with a degree of seriousness - making observations in regards to the current political climate, etc - and then you come in here claiming we don't post anything good. yet it's literally you who never actually talks politics and just snipes about people. just fucking stop.


I'm not making snipes, that would imply some degree of personal pettiness attatched. This is more general pettiness, a shotgun approach if you will.
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Italios
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Postby Italios » Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:02 pm

Nakena wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
There is no such thing as "Judeo-Christian", for a number of reasons.

1) It was originally Cold War propaganda used to get American Jews on board with supporting the struggle against the USSR (many Jews were originally sympathetic towards the Soviets)
2) It later became part of anti-Islamic propaganda, even though Judaism has more in common with Islam than it does with Christianity, and within Israel, Christians tend to side with Muslim over Jews
3) It is used to excuse Israel's complete stranglehold on our State Department


I ususally prefer the term Abrahamism. For me from an outsider perspective, there isn't a hella lot of difference between the three religions. I perceive them, sort of as different versions of the same O/S. With judaism basically the limited, closed beta. The rest then upgrades for the universal consumption. With Islam the supposed last one. (which why further spinoffs such as Bahaiism or even the Ahmadiyya (who keep upgrading) got such viciously attacked, because there isnt supposed to be anything after version 3.0)

As for the term "judeo-christian";

I am honestly surprised that the term is being overhelmingly rejected. Most times I noticed it its when like people are like "uh oh must defend western civilization" or maybe even "christendom" against le Islam. But then the judeo part is added to include israel and mare sure it doesnt comes across as antisemitic. IMHO its more of a term belonging to the bush decade and the shitty counter-jihadhist movement afaik. (which was full pro-israel)

judeo-evangelicalism makes a lot more sense on the last point then. there's not even a weak connection between judaism and all other sects of Christianity.

and that's precisely the problem, from an outsider perspective all religions that have coexisted look the same. examine the actual theology and how it relates to the political and philosophical and you'll see that's empirically false.

if Europe was judaic it would be highly educated, interbred shtels. and no this isn't JQ shit, that's just how all branches of judaism are organized (Mizrahi, sephardic, Ashkenazi, etc).
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Postby Bear Stearns » Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:02 pm

Imperium Romanum Sanctis wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
There are plenty of people here who unironically do that.

In my opinion, unless a person is posting obvious spam (like a bunch of irrelevant gifs or something), you're a power-tripping bitch for reporting people on an anonymous internet forum.

I also believe the quality of posting here would increase if you could actually call someone a dipshit directly.


Probably the amount of users too.

This forum's active userbase is pretty barebones.


Agreed.
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Joohan
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Postby Joohan » Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:03 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:pretty much - not a huge fan of western christianity, but its presence is vastly preferable to widespread atheism and and an amoral populace as certain turboprogressives advocate

atheists aren't "amoral"

also turboprogressives are last year's model, we've upgraded to superchargers now


Well... I mean, if you believe that morality isn't objective and is completely subject to individuals own interpretations ( and then acknowledge everyone has different interpretations ), then they are by definition amoral.

Edit: a better word would be self interested
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Postby Bear Stearns » Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:03 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
Then why you do pollute the thread with your takes?


A bit hard to pollute a tar pit, innit?


So why bother at all? You're just shitposting
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Questarian New Yorkshire
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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:03 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Italios wrote:as opposed as the moderation's power to just arbitrarily ban high effort, good faith posters for silly things? what lol


Nothing in the RWDT can be classified as high effort or good faith.
that's because you think "political debate" (lmao) is about responding to someones points by calling out "logical fallacies" and demanding "sources" for prima facie observations like a first year philosophy student, when actually any kind of useful discussion about the state of the world between two or more intelligent people capable of listening to each other without screaming looks more or less - shock horror - like a conversation, which RWDT threads look like, and which you would be able to spot if you had ever had a conversation with someone you don't agree with in real life
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Valrifell
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:03 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
A bit hard to pollute a tar pit, innit?


So why bother at all? You're just shitposting


That's not a crime, last I checked.
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Imperium Romanum Sanctis
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Postby Imperium Romanum Sanctis » Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:03 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
No there's not

Never underestimate the capacity for the DNC to shoot itself in the foot. Though "above 1%" is an exaggeration, they're betting it on Biden this time. Probably.


There's a fringe theory out there that Biden will choose Hillary as his running mate, beat Trump, and then be forced to resign due to his worsening dementia. Vice President Clinton would then assume the presidency.

It would make for one hell of an election year. Something to give 2016 a run for its money.

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Postby Bear Stearns » Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:04 pm

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
There are plenty of people here who unironically do that.

In my opinion, unless a person is posting obvious spam (like a bunch of irrelevant gifs or something), you're a power-tripping bitch for reporting people on an anonymous internet forum.

I also believe the quality of posting here would increase if you could actually call someone a dipshit directly.
the idea of directly telling someone theyre being an idiot, as a man would, is so alien to austrian book site, dont even try


It would be better in the long run.
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Postby New haven america » Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:05 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
A bit hard to pollute a tar pit, innit?


So why bother at all? You're just shitposting

Isn't that what makes up this entire thread series?
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