RWDT XX: The System Is Kapp Putsch

[The Reformed American Republic]

defund != abolish
jesus fucking christ, at least pay a tiny bit of attention to the arguments you're strawmanning so that you don't embarrass yourself this badly

So why are the elected gaggle of morons on the Minneapolis city council declaring their intentions to abolish the police?

Are they speaking a different language then the rest of us?

The mayor was booed when he called for reform not abolition. Yes, there are people who want reform, I'm one of them, but these radicals are gaining traction.

[Loben The 2nd]

So why are the elected gaggle of morons on the Minneapolis city council declaring their intentions to abolish the police?

Are they speaking a different language then the rest of us?

The mayor was booed when he called for reform not abolition. Yes, there are people who want reform, I'm one of them, but these radicals are gaining traction.

Tell them have their way, then. Not like these people will learn to regret anything.

[Kowani]

While noting that I haven’t watched the YouTube video, your first link doesn’t really support your claim as much as you think it does.

They can be managed but not rehabilitated or cured, which that article states.

The word “rehabilitate” appears only once in your article, in the following sentence: “Consequently, adult psychopaths in prison are much harder to reform or rehabilitate than other criminals with milder or no antisocial personality disorders (5).”

Harder does not mean impossible, mate. You can have a legitimate debate about the risks and possible outcomes, but just claiming outright impossibility seems like a leap not supported by evidence.

[The Reformed American Republic]

They can be managed but not rehabilitated or cured, which that article states.

The word “rehabilitate” appears only once in your article, in the following sentence: “Consequently, adult psychopaths in prison are much harder to reform or rehabilitate than other criminals with milder or no antisocial personality disorders (5).”

Harder does not mean impossible, mate. You can have a legitimate debate about the risks and possible outcomes, but just claiming outright impossibility seems like a leap not supported by evidence.

It's really just hope that something new will come out that can reform them. The article then cites programs used as a result that just manage them, using their desire for rewards. Hence the line "In other words, it can be managed quite effectively but not cured," which merely says you can manage this in institutional settings, aka prison. This is why we need Prisons, which is the debate that led to this.

[Fahran]

It's interesting how, whenever a British person criticises America in any way, shape or form nowadays, American right-wingers tend to suddenly bring up Rotherham. It's like a modern American version of "and you're lynching negroes!"

Because what happened in Rotherham was and is a disgrace, and the institutions that enabled the abuse to occur for decades haven't been reformed at all. Really, we only got widespread acknowledgement that the systematic trafficking and sexual assault of teenagers was going on recently and we only formally acknowledged that the police were more or less complicit in it in the past few years. Mind you, I'm not countering the gripes about America so much as pointing out that the problem cited as an American one is pretty deeply rooted in the UK and Europe too - to the point that it's arguably worse for y'all in some respects.

[Fahran]

Anyways I see we know have Maoist Red Guards working on behalf of postmodern neoliberal rainbow capitalists. Take the worst of the worst and combine it together.

This is surely going to turn out well..

Let them have the world. We'll rebuild from the ashes when they destroy themselves.

[Fahran]

Sorry, I said police rather than prison abolition: I admit that police abolition would be a lot harder than prison abolition and would be a long and slow process. Prison abolition is an absolute no-brainer though.

I'm tempted to make a mean joke but I'll resist the urge. How precisely is the abolition of prisons a no-brainer? Do you intend to transform our current prison system into a mental healthcare system? And how are we going to handle financially motivated crimes like selling crack to children or embezzling millions of dollars from the elderly? Fines and exile? Containing the less savory elements of society is a useful tool of policy that prevents us from deporting our problems abroad or inflicting more severe punishments through the state or the mob.

[Fahran]

The mayor was booed when he called for reform not abolition. Yes, there are people who want reform, I'm one of them, but these radicals are gaining traction.

Give them what they want. Maybe it'll keep them away from everywhere else.

[Novus America]

The mayor was booed when he called for reform not abolition. Yes, there are people who want reform, I'm one of them, but these radicals are gaining traction.

Give them what they want. Maybe it'll keep them away from everywhere else.

Give them some obscure island in middle of the ocean like Bikini atoll where they can live out their fantasies, far away from the rest of us. No laws, no police.
No offense statues of white men.

Then they can make it their little “Paradise”.

[Bienenhalde]

Anyways I see we know have Maoist Red Guards working on behalf of postmodern neoliberal rainbow capitalists. Take the worst of the worst and combine it together.

This is surely going to turn out well..

Ah, yes. A very apt description of the horrors of our time. I mean, I might be part of the LGBT community, but I am frankly horrified by the political views many prominent LGBT activists endorse.

[Diopolis]

Anyways I see we know have Maoist Red Guards working on behalf of postmodern neoliberal rainbow capitalists. Take the worst of the worst and combine it together.

This is surely going to turn out well..

Ah, yes. A very apt description of the horrors of our time. I mean, I might be part of the LGBT community, but I am frankly horrified by the political views many prominent LGBT activists endorse.

Enough to endorse construction cranes?

[Salus Maior]

Anyways I see we know have Maoist Red Guards working on behalf of postmodern neoliberal rainbow capitalists. Take the worst of the worst and combine it together.

This is surely going to turn out well..

Ah, yes. A very apt description of the horrors of our time. I mean, I might be part of the LGBT community, but I am frankly horrified by the political views many prominent LGBT activists endorse.

....You are?

[Cekoviu]

Ah, yes. A very apt description of the horrors of our time. I mean, I might be part of the LGBT community, but I am frankly horrified by the political views many prominent LGBT activists endorse.

....You are?

Am I the only person here who actually reads people's signatures? It's quite clearly stated in his that he is bisexual.

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

Anyways I see we know have Maoist Red Guards working on behalf of postmodern neoliberal rainbow capitalists. Take the worst of the worst and combine it together.

This is surely going to turn out well..

Novus America gets woke then closes the curtains, too much to bear on the other side

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

BLM activists in Britain are US annexationists.

Not even close. I'm sure if you asked any one of them, they would say the U.S. is an empire founded on slavery. That's what many in the BLM movement say here. You are having a problem with anti-western actors in your country, and you are claiming they are U.S. puppets. They're not, don't let your anti-Americanism cloud your judgement.

Many probably also oppose U.S. "imperialism" as well. BLM is hardly red, white, and blue.

Sure, you might think you are a US loyalist, but they just see you as a white loyalist.

The US is the headquarters of the Universal Moral Authority. BLM is one of its Vanguardist institutions. The Universal Moral Authority commands the loyalty of people inside the United States, people inside Britain, France, Sweden, India, Hong Kong, Australia, Korea, even China and Russia to an extent.

The fifth column in these countries wants US annexation only if the US is ruled by the Universal Moral Authority, because they want to be ruled by the Universal Moral Authority and the Universal Moral Authority is headquartered in the United States. That's why they are so adamant and so interested in change in the US because they want the Universal Moral Authority to launch a (victorious) coup d'etat in the United States so it can proceed to annex everyone else.

This is your problem. You have to sort it out. I'm not anti-American, I'm anti- the Universal Moral Authority. Unfortunately it has infected a lot of normal Americans.

[Diopolis]

Not even close. I'm sure if you asked any one of them, they would say the U.S. is an empire founded on slavery. That's what many in the BLM movement say here. You are having a problem with anti-western actors in your country, and you are claiming they are U.S. puppets. They're not, don't let your anti-Americanism cloud your judgement.

Many probably also oppose U.S. "imperialism" as well. BLM is hardly red, white, and blue.

Sure, you might think you are a US loyalist, but they just see you as a white loyalist.

The US is the headquarters of the Universal Moral Authority. BLM is one of its Vanguardist institutions. The Universal Moral Authority commands the loyalty of people inside the United States, people inside Britain, France, Sweden, India, Hong Kong, Australia, Korea, even China and Russia to an extent.

The fifth column in these countries wants US annexation only if the US is ruled by the Universal Moral Authority, because they want to be ruled by the Universal Moral Authority and the Universal Moral Authority is headquartered in the United States. That's why they are so adamant and so interested in change in the US because they want the Universal Moral Authority to launch a (victorious) coup d'etat in the United States so it can proceed to annex everyone else.

This is your problem. You have to sort it out. I'm not anti-American, I'm anti- the Universal Moral Authority. Unfortunately it has infected a lot of normal Americans.

This is why so many foreignstanis had giant meltdowns about the 2016 election. And many of these lived in, not countries like Iraq where the US calls the shots, but places like Europa where the worst case scenario is having to pay their own bills.

[Kowani]

....You are?

Am I the only person here who actually reads people's signatures? It's quite clearly stated in his that he is bisexual.

Many of us have them turned off.

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

Sure, you might think you are a US loyalist, but they just see you as a white loyalist.

The US is the headquarters of the Universal Moral Authority. BLM is one of its Vanguardist institutions. The Universal Moral Authority commands the loyalty of people inside the United States, people inside Britain, France, Sweden, India, Hong Kong, Australia, Korea, even China and Russia to an extent.

The fifth column in these countries wants US annexation only if the US is ruled by the Universal Moral Authority, because they want to be ruled by the Universal Moral Authority and the Universal Moral Authority is headquartered in the United States. That's why they are so adamant and so interested in change in the US because they want the Universal Moral Authority to launch a (victorious) coup d'etat in the United States so it can proceed to annex everyone else.

This is your problem. You have to sort it out. I'm not anti-American, I'm anti- the Universal Moral Authority. Unfortunately it has infected a lot of normal Americans.

This is why so many foreignstanis had giant meltdowns about the 2016 election. And many of these lived in, not countries like Iraq where the US calls the shots, but places like Europa where the worst case scenario is having to pay their own bills.

The Universal Moral Authority is quite strong, but it's not that strong. It can eventually be defeated.

This is the only redeeming thing about Trump whatsoever, that he fights the Universal Moral Authority and wins.

[Diopolis]

This is why so many foreignstanis had giant meltdowns about the 2016 election. And many of these lived in, not countries like Iraq where the US calls the shots, but places like Europa where the worst case scenario is having to pay their own bills.

The Universal Moral Authority is quite strong, but it's not that strong. It can eventually be defeated.

This is the only redeeming thing about Trump whatsoever, that he fights the Universal Moral Authority and wins.

Oh, he's been giving the new world order apoplectic fits. It's been awesome to see.
Unfortunately it had to be Trump.

[Bear Stearns]

Ah, yes. A very apt description of the horrors of our time. I mean, I might be part of the LGBT community, but I am frankly horrified by the political views many prominent LGBT activists endorse.

....You are?

lel

[Bear Stearns]

So why are the elected gaggle of morons on the Minneapolis city council declaring their intentions to abolish the police?

Are they speaking a different language then the rest of us?

The mayor was booed when he called for reform not abolition. Yes, there are people who want reform, I'm one of them, but these radicals are gaining traction.

Mayor was more likely booed because he was a two-faced limp-wristed weirdo who tried to act like he was woke and down for the cause while not actually being so. They would have respected him more if he just took a hardline stance from the get-go.

[Cekoviu]

Am I the only person here who actually reads people's signatures? It's quite clearly stated in his that he is bisexual.

Many of us have them turned off.

Why? They're an easy means of identifying a poster without having to flick one's eyes to the left, and they make it easier to profile people before speaking to them.

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

Many of us have them turned off.

Why? They're an easy means of identifying a poster without having to flick one's eyes to the left, and they make it easier to profile people before speaking to them.

frozen isnt a f****king anime

[Fahran]

When y'all discuss the Universal Moral Authority or New World Order, I assume y'all mean neoliberal progressives who support the deconstruction of social institutions, the dissolution of distinct national identities, a globalized economy, and the imposition of a code of virtue based on extrapolating courtesy and outrage to a mangled version of the oppressor-oppressed dichotomy.

[Cekoviu]

Why? They're an easy means of identifying a poster without having to flick one's eyes to the left, and they make it easier to profile people before speaking to them.

frozen isnt a f****king anime

the implication of this is, however, that twitter is in fact a book