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Which alcoholic beverage is the most right-wing?

Wine (Blood and Body?)
23
21%
Beer
22
21%
Vodka
6
6%
Mead
12
11%
Whiskey/Whisky
18
17%
Scotch (option included for Questers and old people)
9
8%
Rakı (option included specifically for Marches)
4
4%
Seltzers/Hard Ciders (because the Claw is the LAW)
5
5%
Gin
4
4%
Other (Rum/Brandy/Cognac/Tequila)
4
4%
 
Total votes : 107

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Postby Fahran » Mon Jun 08, 2020 5:21 pm

Salus Maior wrote:Progressive ideas don't belong to America. You guys had antifa and such well before we did.

Y'all's police forces have also been looking the other way on widespread sexual abuse from the British Pakistani community for around thirty years for a number of reasons (poor girls clearly chose that lifestyle, it'd be difficult to enforce laws against rape, etc.) but in part to prevent accusations of racism and Islamophobia.

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Postby Vetalia » Mon Jun 08, 2020 5:29 pm

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/politics ... index.html

:lol:, especially the guy reading his Apple Watch. Also, why are they kneeling in honor of George Floyd, seems kind of ass backwards? Top notch Democrat virtue signaling at its finest, especially since more than a few members of that rogue's gallery were backers of the Clinton "tough on crime" era.

Rest assured we will never, ever see those kente cloths ever again...they were thrown in the trash moments after the photo op ended. How damn tone deaf are these people?
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Postby Fahran » Mon Jun 08, 2020 5:33 pm

Vetalia wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/politics/democrats-criticized-kente-cloth-trnd/index.html

:lol:, especially the guy reading his Apple Watch. Also, why are they kneeling in honor of George Floyd, seems kind of ass backwards?

Presumably, the gesture was borrowed from Colin Kaepernick's protest, which attained widespread responses following Michael Brown's death. This reminds me that I haven't really weighed in on the protest else-where despite beginning a very well-sourced post on the subject for that thread.

Vetalia wrote:Rest assured we will never, ever see those kente cloths ever again...they were thrown in the trash moments after the photo op ended. How damn tone deaf are these people?

Cultural appropriation except more cringe because it's pandering without implementing any actual reform?

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Postby Vetalia » Mon Jun 08, 2020 5:40 pm

Fahran wrote:Presumably, the gesture was borrowed from Colin Kaepernick's protest, which attained widespread responses following Michael Brown's death. This reminds me that I haven't really weighed in on the protest else-where despite beginning a very well-sourced post on the subject for that thread.


Probably, but still, I wouldn't put a Freudian slip past doddering, ancient Pelosi.

Cultural appropriation except more cringe because it's pandering without implementing any actual reform?


Pretty much, it's so half-assed and obvious it's embarrassing. Not a single one of them gives a shit about police brutality, criminal justice reform or anything else except when it benefits them politically. Ironically Trump has done more for criminal justice reform than any of the Democrat politicians to date.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Mon Jun 08, 2020 5:44 pm

I'm a rather ardent Calvinist and Anglo-Saxon larper nationalists, but even I sometimes think Whiggism was a very, very dangerous mistake.
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Postby Fahran » Mon Jun 08, 2020 5:48 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:I'm a rather ardent Calvinist and Anglo-Saxon larper nationalists, but even I sometimes think Whiggism was a very, very dangerous mistake.

Only sometimes?

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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jun 08, 2020 5:53 pm

Vetalia wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/politics/democrats-criticized-kente-cloth-trnd/index.html

:lol:, especially the guy reading his Apple Watch. Also, why are they kneeling in honor of George Floyd, seems kind of ass backwards? Top notch Democrat virtue signaling at its finest, especially since more than a few members of that rogue's gallery were backers of the Clinton "tough on crime" era.

Rest assured we will never, ever see those kente cloths ever again...they were thrown in the trash moments after the photo op ended. How damn tone deaf are these people?

If it was kneeling in a church I feel it would be different, and would be more of a poignant symbol of love and mercy, since Pelosi and many of the Dems are Christian (or identify as such). George Floyd was also a Christian, may he Rest In Peace, and I believe his soul would appreciate such a gesture. I guess...Schumer could join, or they could kneel to pray in different places of worship? God accepts prayers from anyone and everyone.

The taking a knee is from the Kaepernick protests, which has its own reasons and is valid. But I think it would be naive, unfortunately, to think Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer know anything about what the kente cloth means and to know why exactly it is so significant. They are free to show solidarity by wearing it, but I doubt that is their reasons for doing so. Despite the fact that people of every political stance are saying that the Floyd case was murder, and rightfully so, the Dems seem to only be taking their position now in order to say they claimed the right side of history. This is ignoring the fact that people like Kamala Harris and Amy Klobuchar, top Dems, let innocent people die in prison during their times as attorneys. The latter in particular was close to the MPD and its ilk for a long time.

And just like you said, it was probably a photo-op. If they reappear I’ll be surprised. Trump was wrong in what he did, but it doesn’t give the other side the justification to wear a cloth to look like they care for African-Americans when they don’t.
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Postby Diopolis » Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:09 pm

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:US riots spread to Britain. So thank you for that. For last few days Britain has got a dose of US progressivism. We are eternally grateful for being brought The Correct Ideas by our American cousins. Here are some of the Correct Opinions that your Black Lives Matter people have brought to us.

These pictures are of the riots yesterday (technically two days ago now.)

This is the Cenotaph in London. For those of you that don't know, the Cenotaph is Britain (and also its Commonwealth)'s national war memorial. It represents Britain's sons (and daughters) killed in the line of duty.

(Image)
(Image)

A Black Lives Matter rioter attempted to set the union flag on the Cenotaph on fire. Police quickly surrounded him but did more or less nothing. Previously, Black Lives Matter rioters had defaced the Cenotaph with BLM symbols. In the morning, active and inactive British servicemen came and cleaned up the scene.

Enough is enough. We have tolerated their game. Now it is time for the police to squash these morons. Unfortunately, Britain is not well suited to receiving such doses of US progressivism, the culprits of criminal damage around our country will likely go free despite the government's promise to "bring them to justice." What a shame.

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Postby Kowani » Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:05 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Vetalia wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/politics/democrats-criticized-kente-cloth-trnd/index.html

:lol:, especially the guy reading his Apple Watch. Also, why are they kneeling in honor of George Floyd, seems kind of ass backwards? Top notch Democrat virtue signaling at its finest, especially since more than a few members of that rogue's gallery were backers of the Clinton "tough on crime" era.

Rest assured we will never, ever see those kente cloths ever again...they were thrown in the trash moments after the photo op ended. How damn tone deaf are these people?

If it was kneeling in a church I feel it would be different, and would be more of a poignant symbol of love and mercy, since Pelosi and many of the Dems are Christian (or identify as such). George Floyd was also a Christian, may he Rest In Peace, and I believe his soul would appreciate such a gesture. I guess...Schumer could join, or they could kneel to pray in different places of worship? God accepts prayers from anyone and everyone.

The taking a knee is from the Kaepernick protests, which has its own reasons and is valid. But I think it would be naive, unfortunately, to think Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer know anything about what the kente cloth means and to know why exactly it is so significant. They are free to show solidarity by wearing it, but I doubt that is their reasons for doing so. Despite the fact that people of every political stance are saying that the Floyd case was murder, and rightfully so, the Dems seem to only be taking their position now in order to say they claimed the right side of history. This is ignoring the fact that people like Kamala Harris and Amy Klobuchar, top Dems, let innocent people die in prison during their times as attorneys. The latter in particular was close to the MPD and its ilk for a long time.

And just like you said, it was probably a photo-op. If they reappear I’ll be surprised. Trump was wrong in what he did, but it doesn’t give the other side the justification to wear a cloth to look like they care for African-Americans when they don’t.

As much as the photo-op is a terrible idea, and considering the Dems history with criminal injustice, I’m at least happy they’re putting forward a bill, even if it doesn’t go as far as I’d like.
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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:09 pm

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:US riots spread to Britain. So thank you for that. For last few days Britain has got a dose of US progressivism. We are eternally grateful for being brought The Correct Ideas by our American cousins. Here are some of the Correct Opinions that your Black Lives Matter people have brought to us.

These pictures are of the riots yesterday (technically two days ago now.)

This is the Cenotaph in London. For those of you that don't know, the Cenotaph is Britain (and also its Commonwealth)'s national war memorial. It represents Britain's sons (and daughters) killed in the line of duty.

(Image)
(Image)

A Black Lives Matter rioter attempted to set the union flag on the Cenotaph on fire. Police quickly surrounded him but did more or less nothing. Previously, Black Lives Matter rioters had defaced the Cenotaph with BLM symbols. In the morning, active and inactive British servicemen came and cleaned up the scene.

Enough is enough. We have tolerated their game. Now it is time for the police to squash these morons. Unfortunately, Britain is not well suited to receiving such doses of US progressivism, the culprits of criminal damage around our country will likely go free despite the government's promise to "bring them to justice." What a shame.


Ah yes, your government won't stop the riots and it wouldn't dare stop the grooming gangs but they were on that man who kicked off the vandalism of the Churchill statue. The state is the equivalent now to that nerdy tattletale who was the teacher's pet. He'd write up the smart kids for using the restroom off hours but he'd never dare challenge the bad ones. Unfortunately thanks to useful idiots, my country's police will soon be the same or changed into private contractors because the LGBT Woman of Color can't be without security! The added bonus is those ones are more ruthless, vicious and less accountable than the old ones and they don't even require a pension! Hall monitors for the rest of us though. One wonders if Churchill would have kept on if he knew this would be what all that sacrifice was for in the end.

No worries, I'm reliably told by the WHO that asymptomic are no longer a thing and every health expert in the country is now ok with mass death to fight racism. But don't dare go to Church or protest the lockdowns. Some fights deserve more legitimacy than others. Religion requires sacrifice. We've a new patheon of Saints too.

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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:11 pm

Kowani wrote:
Luminesa wrote:If it was kneeling in a church I feel it would be different, and would be more of a poignant symbol of love and mercy, since Pelosi and many of the Dems are Christian (or identify as such). George Floyd was also a Christian, may he Rest In Peace, and I believe his soul would appreciate such a gesture. I guess...Schumer could join, or they could kneel to pray in different places of worship? God accepts prayers from anyone and everyone.

The taking a knee is from the Kaepernick protests, which has its own reasons and is valid. But I think it would be naive, unfortunately, to think Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer know anything about what the kente cloth means and to know why exactly it is so significant. They are free to show solidarity by wearing it, but I doubt that is their reasons for doing so. Despite the fact that people of every political stance are saying that the Floyd case was murder, and rightfully so, the Dems seem to only be taking their position now in order to say they claimed the right side of history. This is ignoring the fact that people like Kamala Harris and Amy Klobuchar, top Dems, let innocent people die in prison during their times as attorneys. The latter in particular was close to the MPD and its ilk for a long time.

And just like you said, it was probably a photo-op. If they reappear I’ll be surprised. Trump was wrong in what he did, but it doesn’t give the other side the justification to wear a cloth to look like they care for African-Americans when they don’t.

As much as the photo-op is a terrible idea, and considering the Dems history with criminal injustice, I’m at least happy they’re putting forward a bill, even if it doesn’t go as far as I’d like.


I too wish for you to suffer the consequences of lawless and anarcho-tyranny. It will only be used to hammer people like you. Small consolations.

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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:17 pm

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:US riots spread to Britain. So thank you for that. For last few days Britain has got a dose of US progressivism. We are eternally grateful for being brought The Correct Ideas by our American cousins. Here are some of the Correct Opinions that your Black Lives Matter people have brought to us.

These pictures are of the riots yesterday (technically two days ago now.)

This is the Cenotaph in London. For those of you that don't know, the Cenotaph is Britain (and also its Commonwealth)'s national war memorial. It represents Britain's sons (and daughters) killed in the line of duty.

(Image)
(Image)

A Black Lives Matter rioter attempted to set the union flag on the Cenotaph on fire. Police quickly surrounded him but did more or less nothing. Previously, Black Lives Matter rioters had defaced the Cenotaph with BLM symbols. In the morning, active and inactive British servicemen came and cleaned up the scene.

Enough is enough. We have tolerated their game. Now it is time for the police to squash these morons. Unfortunately, Britain is not well suited to receiving such doses of US progressivism, the culprits of criminal damage around our country will likely go free despite the government's promise to "bring them to justice." What a shame.

Your police need to show some balls and bring upstarts to heel. Also, don't blame the U.S. for this, as these types of upstarts would just find other excuses to riot if this did not happen, and our problems don't even justify their very existence in your country. What you see in your country are far-leftists who think the whole "Western World" is inherently racist, and they will think that no matter what.
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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:18 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:US riots spread to Britain. So thank you for that. For last few days Britain has got a dose of US progressivism. We are eternally grateful for being brought The Correct Ideas by our American cousins. Here are some of the Correct Opinions that your Black Lives Matter people have brought to us.

These pictures are of the riots yesterday (technically two days ago now.)

This is the Cenotaph in London. For those of you that don't know, the Cenotaph is Britain (and also its Commonwealth)'s national war memorial. It represents Britain's sons (and daughters) killed in the line of duty.

(Image)
(Image)

A Black Lives Matter rioter attempted to set the union flag on the Cenotaph on fire. Police quickly surrounded him but did more or less nothing. Previously, Black Lives Matter rioters had defaced the Cenotaph with BLM symbols. In the morning, active and inactive British servicemen came and cleaned up the scene.

Enough is enough. We have tolerated their game. Now it is time for the police to squash these morons. Unfortunately, Britain is not well suited to receiving such doses of US progressivism, the culprits of criminal damage around our country will likely go free despite the government's promise to "bring them to justice." What a shame.

Your police need to show some balls and bring upstarts to heel. Also, don't blame the U.S. for this, as these types of upstarts would just find other excuses to riot if this did not happen, and our problems don't even justify their very existence in your country. What you see in your country are far-leftists who think the whole "Western World" is inherently racist, and they will think that no matter what.


Alas Britain does not have gendarmes. Something we should consider investing in tbh.

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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:25 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Your police need to show some balls and bring upstarts to heel. Also, don't blame the U.S. for this, as these types of upstarts would just find other excuses to riot if this did not happen, and our problems don't even justify their very existence in your country. What you see in your country are far-leftists who think the whole "Western World" is inherently racist, and they will think that no matter what.


Alas Britain does not have gendarmes. Something we should consider investing in tbh.

I'm not surprised. We have opposite problems. We have police that are too quick to reach for the gun and yours don't reach for it soon enough.
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:27 pm

Kowani wrote:
Luminesa wrote:If it was kneeling in a church I feel it would be different, and would be more of a poignant symbol of love and mercy, since Pelosi and many of the Dems are Christian (or identify as such). George Floyd was also a Christian, may he Rest In Peace, and I believe his soul would appreciate such a gesture. I guess...Schumer could join, or they could kneel to pray in different places of worship? God accepts prayers from anyone and everyone.

The taking a knee is from the Kaepernick protests, which has its own reasons and is valid. But I think it would be naive, unfortunately, to think Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer know anything about what the kente cloth means and to know why exactly it is so significant. They are free to show solidarity by wearing it, but I doubt that is their reasons for doing so. Despite the fact that people of every political stance are saying that the Floyd case was murder, and rightfully so, the Dems seem to only be taking their position now in order to say they claimed the right side of history. This is ignoring the fact that people like Kamala Harris and Amy Klobuchar, top Dems, let innocent people die in prison during their times as attorneys. The latter in particular was close to the MPD and its ilk for a long time.

And just like you said, it was probably a photo-op. If they reappear I’ll be surprised. Trump was wrong in what he did, but it doesn’t give the other side the justification to wear a cloth to look like they care for African-Americans when they don’t.

As much as the photo-op is a terrible idea, and considering the Dems history with criminal injustice, I’m at least happy they’re putting forward a bill, even if it doesn’t go as far as I’d like.

It'll take more than a bill to end racism, is the problem.
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:29 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:US riots spread to Britain. So thank you for that. For last few days Britain has got a dose of US progressivism. We are eternally grateful for being brought The Correct Ideas by our American cousins. Here are some of the Correct Opinions that your Black Lives Matter people have brought to us.

These pictures are of the riots yesterday (technically two days ago now.)

This is the Cenotaph in London. For those of you that don't know, the Cenotaph is Britain (and also its Commonwealth)'s national war memorial. It represents Britain's sons (and daughters) killed in the line of duty.

(Image)
(Image)

A Black Lives Matter rioter attempted to set the union flag on the Cenotaph on fire. Police quickly surrounded him but did more or less nothing. Previously, Black Lives Matter rioters had defaced the Cenotaph with BLM symbols. In the morning, active and inactive British servicemen came and cleaned up the scene.

Enough is enough. We have tolerated their game. Now it is time for the police to squash these morons. Unfortunately, Britain is not well suited to receiving such doses of US progressivism, the culprits of criminal damage around our country will likely go free despite the government's promise to "bring them to justice." What a shame.


Ah yes, your government won't stop the riots and it wouldn't dare stop the grooming gangs but they were on that man who kicked off the vandalism of the Churchill statue. The state is the equivalent now to that nerdy tattletale who was the teacher's pet. He'd write up the smart kids for using the restroom off hours but he'd never dare challenge the bad ones. Unfortunately thanks to useful idiots, my country's police will soon be the same or changed into private contractors because the LGBT Woman of Color can't be without security! The added bonus is those ones are more ruthless, vicious and less accountable than the old ones and they don't even require a pension! Hall monitors for the rest of us though. One wonders if Churchill would have kept on if he knew this would be what all that sacrifice was for in the end.

No worries, I'm reliably told by the WHO that asymptomic are no longer a thing and every health expert in the country is now ok with mass death to fight racism. But don't dare go to Church or protest the lockdowns. Some fights deserve more legitimacy than others. Religion requires sacrifice. We've a new patheon of Saints too.

I...wouldn't put protesting the lockdowns on the same tier as simply going to Church, simply because some of the protests over the lockdown have been kinda ridiculous (as they were here, in which the governor was willing to re-open everything in a timely manner as soon as he could, including churches since he's a devout Catholic, and yet people still got angry).
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Postby Vetalia » Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:32 pm

Luminesa wrote:If it was kneeling in a church I feel it would be different, and would be more of a poignant symbol of love and mercy, since Pelosi and many of the Dems are Christian (or identify as such). George Floyd was also a Christian, may he Rest In Peace, and I believe his soul would appreciate such a gesture. I guess...Schumer could join, or they could kneel to pray in different places of worship? God accepts prayers from anyone and everyone.


Rather remarkable that Pelosi et al would consider themselves Christian considering how many black children have been aborted thanks to the Democrat pro-abortion program...and being pro-abortion is absolutely NOT a Christian position no matter how much the super-liberal denominations try to paint it as acceptable. If the Catholic Church had its stones like it did back in the day it would refuse these evil people the right to receive Communion and flat out excommunicate them for their actions. It is an utterly evil act and a grave sin that is condemned universally in all traditional Christian theological traditions, whether Protestant, Catholic or Reformed. In fact, anti-abortion activism is one of the rare points of agreement between Evangelical Protestants and Catholics in South America.

The taking a knee is from the Kaepernick protests, which has its own reasons and is valid. But I think it would be naive, unfortunately, to think Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer know anything about what the kente cloth means and to know why exactly it is so significant. They are free to show solidarity by wearing it, but I doubt that is their reasons for doing so. Despite the fact that people of every political stance are saying that the Floyd case was murder, and rightfully so, the Dems seem to only be taking their position now in order to say they claimed the right side of history. This is ignoring the fact that people like Kamala Harris and Amy Klobuchar, top Dems, let innocent people die in prison during their times as attorneys. The latter in particular was close to the MPD and its ilk for a long time.


Let's be honest, it was a photo op that they thought looked good but was totally inept and tasteless. They looked like they were gearing up for a minstrel show with Trudeau and Northam in blackface,
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:38 pm

Vetalia wrote:
Luminesa wrote:If it was kneeling in a church I feel it would be different, and would be more of a poignant symbol of love and mercy, since Pelosi and many of the Dems are Christian (or identify as such). George Floyd was also a Christian, may he Rest In Peace, and I believe his soul would appreciate such a gesture. I guess...Schumer could join, or they could kneel to pray in different places of worship? God accepts prayers from anyone and everyone.


Rather remarkable that Pelosi et al would consider themselves Christian considering how many black children have been aborted thanks to the Democrat pro-abortion program...and being pro-abortion is absolutely NOT a Christian position no matter how much the super-liberal denominations try to paint it as acceptable. If the Catholic Church had its stones like it did back in the day it would refuse these evil people the right to receive Communion and flat out excommunicate them for their actions. It is an utterly evil act and a grave sin that is condemned universally in all traditional Christian theological traditions, whether Protestant, Catholic or Reformed. In fact, anti-abortion activism is one of the rare points of agreement between Evangelical Protestants and Catholics in South America.

The taking a knee is from the Kaepernick protests, which has its own reasons and is valid. But I think it would be naive, unfortunately, to think Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer know anything about what the kente cloth means and to know why exactly it is so significant. They are free to show solidarity by wearing it, but I doubt that is their reasons for doing so. Despite the fact that people of every political stance are saying that the Floyd case was murder, and rightfully so, the Dems seem to only be taking their position now in order to say they claimed the right side of history. This is ignoring the fact that people like Kamala Harris and Amy Klobuchar, top Dems, let innocent people die in prison during their times as attorneys. The latter in particular was close to the MPD and its ilk for a long time.


Let's be honest, it was a photo op that they thought looked good but was totally inept and tasteless. They looked like they were gearing up for a minstrel show with Trudeau and Northam in blackface,

Oh I agree with you, I simply mean in case Nancy wanted to truly show respect for George Floyd, she could have knelt in a church and prayed like many Christians have done for him and for all souls of the faithful departed. The National Basilica is like 20 minutes from the White House, and St. Matthew's is not too far either. Shoot, she could have gone across the street to St. John's Episcopal, I don't think God would be angry at a Catholic praying a rosary in an Episcopalian church if it's the closest one to her workplace.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:52 pm

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Kowani wrote:As much as the photo-op is a terrible idea, and considering the Dems history with criminal injustice, I’m at least happy they’re putting forward a bill, even if it doesn’t go as far as I’d like.

It'll take more than a bill to end racism, is the problem.

Oh, yeah, absolutely.
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:12 pm

You know guys, maybe we should turn the country off and turn it on again.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:22 pm

Salus Maior wrote:You know guys, maybe we should turn the country off and turn it on again.


All that happens when we do that is the trash piles up and national parks don't get money.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:37 pm

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Salus Maior wrote:You know guys, maybe we should turn the country off and turn it on again.


All that happens when we do that is the trash piles up and national parks don't get money.

The latter is an acceptable casualty.
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:38 pm

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All that happens when we do that is the trash piles up and national parks don't get money.

The latter is an acceptable casualty.

You have clearly never been to a national park.
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All that happens when we do that is the trash piles up and national parks don't get money.

The latter is an acceptable casualty.

I support helicopters but I draw the line at national parks.
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Postby Fahran » Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:58 pm

Does the UK even have a police brutality problem? Why are they vandalizing statues of Churchill and war memorials over a government abuse that occurred in the US when they could focus on slavers and showing solidarity?

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