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Which alcoholic beverage is the most right-wing?

Wine (Blood and Body?)
23
21%
Beer
22
21%
Vodka
6
6%
Mead
12
11%
Whiskey/Whisky
18
17%
Scotch (option included for Questers and old people)
9
8%
Rakı (option included specifically for Marches)
4
4%
Seltzers/Hard Ciders (because the Claw is the LAW)
5
5%
Gin
4
4%
Other (Rum/Brandy/Cognac/Tequila)
4
4%
 
Total votes : 107

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The Greater Ohio Valley
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat May 23, 2020 11:30 am

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
This victim mentality and persecution complex on the behalf of someone else is super unsexy.

After all, it's just an Australian book website.
it's not on behalf of diop, its on behalf of all of us

If your political beliefs necessitates breaking site rules then maybe a place with a more laissez faire attitude towards that sort of thing would be a better fit for you.

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The New California Republic wrote:I just report rulebreaking when I see it.


what are you, some kind of proto mod? you think because you "report it when you see it" they're going to give you the Cool Prefects Badge eventually?

stop it.

use your own native reason to decide when someone needs ot be silenced, like when theyre doing something that's going to cause another person to be harmed, for instance.

Ironic that a self described authoritarian would decry actions that they view as authoritarian.
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Questarian New Yorkshire
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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Sat May 23, 2020 11:31 am

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote: it's not on behalf of diop, its on behalf of all of us

If your political beliefs necessitates breaking site rules then maybe a place with a more laissez faire attitude towards that sort of thing would be a better fit for you.

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:
what are you, some kind of proto mod? you think because you "report it when you see it" they're going to give you the Cool Prefects Badge eventually?

stop it.

use your own native reason to decide when someone needs ot be silenced, like when theyre doing something that's going to cause another person to be harmed, for instance.

Ironic that a self described authoritarian would decry actions that they view as authoritarian.
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Imperium Romanum Sanctis
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Postby Imperium Romanum Sanctis » Sat May 23, 2020 11:32 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Remaris wrote:I'm against the death penalty partially on the grounds of the risk of false convictions, a risk which can be somewhat mitigated but never entirely eliminated

I'm not defending the death penalty, but in instances where it is usually used there is most often a significant amount of time between conviction and sentence, with appeals being an option in that time.


Yeah, it generally takes more than a decade to execute someone after they've been sentenced.

Unless of course they don't appeal, it which case the timeframe is about six months. But that rarely ever happens.

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Questarian New Yorkshire
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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Sat May 23, 2020 11:33 am

also re smoking as I said earlier:

zizek once said there's no more real vice, drugs are practically legal, gambling is normalised, sex is fine as long as you are safe, drink is good for you in moderation only, the only true remaining vice is smoking.

smoking is really the last vice. but it's being stamped out everywhere, more or less. the next generation of people won't even know what it is let alone comprehend a world where most people were doing it/it was normal. I guess that's good but the idea of a world where all vice is more or less controlled, regulated and distributed is scary
REST IN PEACE RWDT & LWDT
I'm just a poor wayfaring stranger, traveling through this world below
There is no sickness, no toil, nor danger, in that bright land to which I go
I'm going there to see my Father, and all my loved ones who've gone on
I'm only going over Jordan, I'm only going over home

I know dark clouds will gather 'round me, I know my way is hard and steep
But beauteous fields arise before me, where God's redeemed, their vigils keep

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Remaris
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Postby Remaris » Sat May 23, 2020 11:34 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Remaris wrote:I'm against the death penalty partially on the grounds of the risk of false convictions, a risk which can be somewhat mitigated but never entirely eliminated

I'm not defending the death penalty, but in instances where it is usually used there is most often a significant amount of time between conviction and sentence, with appeals being an option in that time.

As I said, the risk of false conviction can be mitigated, but it's hard, if not impossible, to wholly eliminate it; what's more, having convicts remain on death row for an extended period of time whilst successive appeals go through as generally happens in the United States arguably adds to the inhumane nature of the punishment, given the psychological effects on the prisoner, and also undermines one of the common arguments in favour capital punishment, the argument that it's cheaper and more efficient than long-term incarceration.
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Imperium Romanum Sanctis
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Postby Imperium Romanum Sanctis » Sat May 23, 2020 11:36 am

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:also re smoking as I said earlier:

zizek once said there's no more real vice, drugs are practically legal, gambling is normalised, sex is fine as long as you are safe, drink is good for you in moderation only, the only true remaining vice is smoking.

smoking is really the last vice. but it's being stamped out everywhere, more or less. the next generation of people won't even know what it is let alone comprehend a world where most people were doing it/it was normal. I guess that's good but the idea of a world where all vice is more or less controlled, regulated and distributed is scary


Eh, cigarettes aren't necessarily being rooted out as much as they're being replaced. Vaping and smoking marijuana are becoming the new norm.

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Postby Italios » Sat May 23, 2020 11:36 am

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:also re smoking as I said earlier:

zizek once said there's no more real vice, drugs are practically legal, gambling is normalised, sex is fine as long as you are safe, drink is good for you in moderation only, the only true remaining vice is smoking.

smoking is really the last vice. but it's being stamped out everywhere, more or less. the next generation of people won't even know what it is let alone comprehend a world where most people were doing it/it was normal. I guess that's good but the idea of a world where all vice is more or less controlled, regulated and distributed is scary

literally a solid 80% of people my age i know smoke socially, zizek has no fucking idea what he's talking about because he's actually 200
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Postby Cekoviu » Sat May 23, 2020 11:37 am

Italios wrote:
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:also re smoking as I said earlier:

zizek once said there's no more real vice, drugs are practically legal, gambling is normalised, sex is fine as long as you are safe, drink is good for you in moderation only, the only true remaining vice is smoking.

smoking is really the last vice. but it's being stamped out everywhere, more or less. the next generation of people won't even know what it is let alone comprehend a world where most people were doing it/it was normal. I guess that's good but the idea of a world where all vice is more or less controlled, regulated and distributed is scary

literally a solid 80% of people my age i know smoke socially, zizek has no fucking idea what he's talking about because he's actually 200

jesus, where the hell do you live that that many younguns are smoking
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Questarian New Yorkshire
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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Sat May 23, 2020 11:37 am

smoking tobacco and marijuana arent similar at all

vaping though, I guess, but I dont think vaping will last
REST IN PEACE RWDT & LWDT
I'm just a poor wayfaring stranger, traveling through this world below
There is no sickness, no toil, nor danger, in that bright land to which I go
I'm going there to see my Father, and all my loved ones who've gone on
I'm only going over Jordan, I'm only going over home

I know dark clouds will gather 'round me, I know my way is hard and steep
But beauteous fields arise before me, where God's redeemed, their vigils keep

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Postby Cekoviu » Sat May 23, 2020 11:37 am

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:smoking tobacco and marijuana arent similar at all

vaping though, I guess, but I dont think vaping will last

it had better fucking not
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Questarian New Yorkshire
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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Sat May 23, 2020 11:39 am

ime a lot of people "socially smoke" but that isnt enough to maintain the practice.

you need a core of pack-a-dayers or the industry will die probably.
REST IN PEACE RWDT & LWDT
I'm just a poor wayfaring stranger, traveling through this world below
There is no sickness, no toil, nor danger, in that bright land to which I go
I'm going there to see my Father, and all my loved ones who've gone on
I'm only going over Jordan, I'm only going over home

I know dark clouds will gather 'round me, I know my way is hard and steep
But beauteous fields arise before me, where God's redeemed, their vigils keep

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The New California Republic
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat May 23, 2020 11:39 am

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:also re smoking as I said earlier:

zizek once said there's no more real vice, drugs are practically legal, gambling is normalised, sex is fine as long as you are safe, drink is good for you in moderation only, the only true remaining vice is smoking.

smoking is really the last vice. but it's being stamped out everywhere, more or less. the next generation of people won't even know what it is let alone comprehend a world where most people were doing it/it was normal. I guess that's good but the idea of a world where all vice is more or less controlled, regulated and distributed is scary

But by the same token, smoking if there happens to be weed inside the rollie (depending on where you are of course) probably gets less disapproving looks than if it had just tobacco inside, even though often folk mix a bit of tobacco with the weed for a more even burn etc.
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Imperium Romanum Sanctis
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Postby Imperium Romanum Sanctis » Sat May 23, 2020 11:39 am

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:smoking tobacco and marijuana arent similar at all

vaping though, I guess, but I dont think vaping will last


They're the norm in terms of drugs/addictions amongst the Zoomers. Millennials too, to some extent.

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Postby Diopolis » Sat May 23, 2020 11:40 am

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:ime a lot of people "socially smoke" but that isnt enough to maintain the practice.

you need a core of pack-a-dayers or the industry will die probably.

That core is always going to exist.
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The New California Republic
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat May 23, 2020 11:42 am

Diopolis wrote:
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:ime a lot of people "socially smoke" but that isnt enough to maintain the practice.

you need a core of pack-a-dayers or the industry will die probably.

That core is always going to exist.

Due to the decline of the uptake of smoking amongst the young in comparison to previous generations, there is a possibility that even the 20 a day smokers will die out eventually.
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Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Nap the Magnificent » Sat May 23, 2020 12:05 pm

IIRC smoking cigs is going down, but e-cigs and vapoes have led to an increase in tobacco use by young adults, the first in a long time.
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Postby Dylar » Sat May 23, 2020 12:07 pm

Hot take: Smoking anything other than cigars or pipes is degenerate
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Postby Cekoviu » Sat May 23, 2020 12:08 pm

Dylar wrote:Hot take: Smoking anything other than cigars or pipes is degenerate

Fixed
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sat May 23, 2020 12:10 pm

Dylar wrote:Hot take: Smoking anything other than cigars or pipes is degenerate


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Postby The New California Republic » Sat May 23, 2020 12:10 pm

Nap the Magnificent wrote:IIRC smoking cigs is going down, but e-cigs and vapoes have led to an increase in tobacco use by young adults, the first in a long time.

Yes, here are the stats for high school students regarding what specific tobacco product they used:

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I lol'd at the 1.1% of pipe smokers.
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Celritannia » Sat May 23, 2020 12:11 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Nap the Magnificent wrote:IIRC smoking cigs is going down, but e-cigs and vapoes have led to an increase in tobacco use by young adults, the first in a long time.

Yes, here are the stats for high school students regarding what specific tobacco product they used:

Image
I lol'd at the 1.1% of pipe smokers.


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Postby Remaris » Sat May 23, 2020 12:11 pm

Nap the Magnificent wrote:IIRC smoking cigs is going down, but e-cigs and vapoes have led to an increase in tobacco use by young adults, the first in a long time.

Which is highly concerning, given the lack of scientific data on the long-term health implications of both. As substitutes for traditional cigarettes and a tool to help people quit, vaping and e-cigs were a positive development, but the trend towards non-smokers taking up vaping as a hobby is worrying.
Dylar wrote:Hot take: Smoking anything other than cigars or pipes is degenerate

I generally dislike smoking but I agree that cigars and pipes are the classiest way to poison yourself if that's really what you're about.
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The New California Republic
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat May 23, 2020 12:13 pm

Celritannia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Yes, here are the stats for high school students regarding what specific tobacco product they used:

(Image)
I lol'd at the 1.1% of pipe smokers.


Tut tut tut.
Where is the culture?

I used to smoke the 7.6% product, but way after I was in high school.
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Taihei Tengoku » Sat May 23, 2020 12:21 pm

The dying "smoking" vs the vibrant "dipping"

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