RWDT XX: The System Is Kapp Putsch

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

well maybe you shouldn't fucking do it, nobody has asked you to do it and all you do is make it worse for the rest of us

The site's enforcement is based on players self-reporting in instances of others making offenses. The alternative is having someone with redtext stalk threads, which sounds like it has the potential for more fun and spectacle so I'm for it.

There's nothing wrong with lurkers reporting questionable things if they come across it.

nobody asked you

[Diopolis]

They are both just expressions of ending the exclusivity principle of relationships.

No, no they are not. Please understand both terms correctly.

I do understand both terms.
But the natural distinction is not between hierarchical and egalitarian relationships, because egalitarian relationships more or less do not exist. The natural distinction is between exclusive and non-exclusive relationships. Therefore, although I understand the distinction, I reject it entirely.

[Celritannia]

I see polygamy and monogomy, but no polyamory.

there is no tangible difference between a man who has multiple wives and is legally married to them versus a man who has multiple live-in, long-term "girlfriends." it still produces the same strife between the women because of the desire to compete for male attention, financial resources and the bearing of his children. the man is still going to be a social superior with a lot of bargaining power and a disproportionate amount of control over the women. there are always going to be financial problems in these types of relationships because there's usually one breadwinner who has to provide for 1+ adults and a lot of children (since relationships with multiple people produce more children than monogamous ones). this is a very weird hill to die on, the spelling of the word, since as we've explained to you countless times, polyamory has the same detrimental effects that polygamy does.

let's make this a bit easier. do you hate women?

Yes, yes there is a difference. I have stressed it with evidence enough.

Of course not.

Is it good to get jealous over people involved in a polyamorous relationship?

[Valrifell]

The site's enforcement is based on players self-reporting in instances of others making offenses. The alternative is having someone with redtext stalk threads, which sounds like it has the potential for more fun and spectacle so I'm for it.

There's nothing wrong with lurkers reporting questionable things if they come across it.

nobody asked you

It's a forum lmfao

[Cekoviu]

I mean, how do you propose that those children actually be protected from homosexuals in terms of policy? Obviously there is a disturbing trend here, but I doubt that banning gay marriage would do anything to counteract it and it would actively harm the large majority of gay people who aren't pedophiles.

we can start by hanging child sex criminals

And you think that would decrease the proportion of sex crimes committed by homosexuals? Does being gay give you a stronger aversion to being hung?

[Italios]

well maybe you shouldn't fucking do it, nobody has asked you to do it and all you do is make it worse for the rest of us

The site's enforcement is based on players self-reporting in instances of others making offenses. The alternative is having someone with redtext stalk threads, which sounds like it has the potential for more fun and spectacle so I'm for it.

There's nothing wrong with lurkers reporting questionable things if they come across it.

yes there is. a lurker literally contributes nothing to a conversation, their only role is shutting it down. lurkers get the label lurker because they are reporting good-faith, high-content conversations, not because they report those asian spam threads that we occasionally get spammed with.

[Celritannia]

No, no they are not. Please understand both terms correctly.

I do understand both terms.
But the natural distinction is not between hierarchical and egalitarian relationships, because egalitarian relationships more or less do not exist. The natural distinction is between exclusive and non-exclusive relationships. Therefore, although I understand the distinction, I reject it entirely.

But they do exist.

Reject them all you want, but trying to stop them from happening is stupid.

[Diopolis]

well maybe you shouldn't fucking do it, nobody has asked you to do it and all you do is make it worse for the rest of us

The site's enforcement is based on players self-reporting in instances of others making offenses. The alternative is having someone with redtext stalk threads, which sounds like it has the potential for more fun and spectacle so I'm for it.

There's nothing wrong with lurkers reporting questionable things if they come across it.

That's not to say that everything which would, technically, potentially violate a rule needs to be reported. A degree of judgement is a good thing when making reports.

[Washington Resistance Army]

The site's enforcement is based on players self-reporting in instances of others making offenses. The alternative is having someone with redtext stalk threads, which sounds like it has the potential for more fun and spectacle so I'm for it.

There's nothing wrong with lurkers reporting questionable things if they come across it.

yes there is. a lurker literally contributes nothing to a conversation, their only role is shutting it down. lurkers get the label lurker because they are reporting good-faith, high-content conversations, not because they report those asian spam threads that we occasionally get spammed with.

Hey man, Asian spam threads are high quality

[Valrifell]

we can start by hanging child sex criminals

And you think that would decrease the proportion of sex crimes committed by homosexuals? Does being gay give you a stronger aversion to being hung?

Judging by the number of gay pornstars, I don't think so.

see, the joke is quite sophisticated, you said hung which has entirely different meanings but what you meant to say was hanged. What fun!

[Cekoviu]

I mean, how do you propose that those children actually be protected from homosexuals in terms of policy? Obviously there is a disturbing trend here, but I doubt that banning gay marriage would do anything to counteract it and it would actively harm the large majority of gay people who aren't pedophiles.

my problem isn't the defense of the institution of marriage, it's the rejection of facts in favor of your social advocacy. if someone posts a study that suggests a specific social demographic has a trend towards problematic, abusive behavior, you should strive to address it and explain why this doesn't invalidate your allegiance with that social demographic, not just ignore it.

Ah. I'm not entirely sure why you're pointing this directly at me, since I'm not that ardently pro-gay, but I see what you're saying.

[The New California Republic]

I just report rulebreaking when I see it.

what are you, some kind of proto mod? you think because you "report it when you see it" they're going to give you the Cool Prefects Badge eventually?

Not at all. You seem to be spending an awful lot of time and effort on what you think that I am thinking.

use your own native reason to decide when someone needs ot be silenced, like when theyre doing something that's going to cause another person to be harmed, for instance.

The site rules cover a lot more than just that.

[Italios]

there is no tangible difference between a man who has multiple wives and is legally married to them versus a man who has multiple live-in, long-term "girlfriends." it still produces the same strife between the women because of the desire to compete for male attention, financial resources and the bearing of his children. the man is still going to be a social superior with a lot of bargaining power and a disproportionate amount of control over the women. there are always going to be financial problems in these types of relationships because there's usually one breadwinner who has to provide for 1+ adults and a lot of children (since relationships with multiple people produce more children than monogamous ones). this is a very weird hill to die on, the spelling of the word, since as we've explained to you countless times, polyamory has the same detrimental effects that polygamy does.

let's make this a bit easier. do you hate women?

Yes, yes there is a difference. I have stressed it with evidence enough.

wow, that is a great debating strategy to have someone generously explain something to you and then respond "no." i will be sure to use this in the future

Of course not.

then why do you support a social practice that hurts women?

Is it good to get jealous over people involved in a polyamorous relationship?

lol

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

nobody asked you

It's a forum lmfao

yes, ding ding ding ding, you got it! it's a forum!

what's the point in a forum where people can't express their opinions or ideas?

or let me guess, youd actually just prefer a giant echochamber for your own ideas? that's what NS almost is anyway, soon enough after people like NCR have reported and banned anyone who has an independent position, left or right, it will completely be just one echochamber.

[Cekoviu]

I believe I was at one point in the vicinity of a person who was in a poly relationship IRL, but I didn't ask them about it. I used to frequently engage online with poly people, though.

And what were they like? Did they tell you how their relationship worked?

Kind of unlikeable and annoying & no, respectively.

[Valrifell]

The site's enforcement is based on players self-reporting in instances of others making offenses. The alternative is having someone with redtext stalk threads, which sounds like it has the potential for more fun and spectacle so I'm for it.

There's nothing wrong with lurkers reporting questionable things if they come across it.

That's not to say that everything which would, technically, potentially violate a rule needs to be reported. A degree of judgement is a good thing when making reports.

That's a fair assessment, though singling these folks out isn't very beneficial to anyone. If the reports are frivolous, they either won't be acted on or will be appealed.

[Celritannia]

Not all relationships last.
But it's no reason to deny them either.
Just because something is strange doesn't make it wrong.

do you see the problem with your anecdotes now

Nope, because polyamorous relationships are rare.

But it neither shows they are any different from monogamous relationships either.

[Cekoviu]

And you think that would decrease the proportion of sex crimes committed by homosexuals? Does being gay give you a stronger aversion to being hung?

Judging by the number of gay pornstars, I don't think so.

see, the joke is quite sophisticated, you said hung which has entirely different meanings but what you meant to say was hanged. What fun!

Fuck ablaut smdh

[Diopolis]

we can start by hanging child sex criminals

And you think that would decrease the proportion of sex crimes committed by homosexuals? Does being gay give you a stronger aversion to being hung?

Hanging child sex abusers would decrease the number of child sex crimes. I'm not sure that "decrease the proportion committed by homosexuals" should be our goal here.

[Kowani]

No, no they are not. Please understand both terms correctly.

I do understand both terms.
But the natural distinction is not between hierarchical and egalitarian relationships, because egalitarian relationships more or less do not exist. The natural distinction is between exclusive and non-exclusive relationships. Therefore, although I understand the distinction, I reject it entirely.

Well, that’s about as nonsensical as ever.

[Nap the Magnificent]

there is no tangible difference between a man who has multiple wives and is legally married to them versus a man who has multiple live-in, long-term "girlfriends." it still produces the same strife between the women because of the desire to compete for male attention, financial resources and the bearing of his children. the man is still going to be a social superior with a lot of bargaining power and a disproportionate amount of control over the women. there are always going to be financial problems in these types of relationships because there's usually one breadwinner who has to provide for 1+ adults and a lot of children (since relationships with multiple people produce more children than monogamous ones). this is a very weird hill to die on, the spelling of the word, since as we've explained to you countless times, polyamory has the same detrimental effects that polygamy does.

let's make this a bit easier. do you hate women?

Yes, yes there is a difference. I have stressed it with evidence enough.

Of course not.

Is it good to get jealous over people involved in a polyamorous relationship?

If you think this is over being jealous of them then lmao.

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

we can start by hanging child sex criminals

And you think that would decrease the proportion of sex crimes committed by homosexuals? Does being gay give you a stronger aversion to being hung?

er I never said we can decrease the % of child sex crimes committed by gays (and I dont care to), just the overall #

the main thang is just to reduce the # of children that get raped, i dont see how this is controversial

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

do you see the problem with your anecdotes now

Nope, because polyamorous relationships are rare.

But it neither shows they are any different from monogamous relationships either.

all the poly relationships I've known have failed

and you know some poly relationships and apparently you think theyre cool and good

so who should everyone else believe?

anecdote has its place to show the context or scale of a position, it's not proof of anything though

[Celritannia]

Yes, yes there is a difference. I have stressed it with evidence enough.

Of course not.

Is it good to get jealous over people involved in a polyamorous relationship?

If you think this is over being jealous of them then lmao.

Then why is it wrong? Why is it so hard to understand that people in a polyamorous relationship is something they want to be in?

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

Not at all. You seem to be spending an awful lot of time and effort on what you think that I am thinking.

because I want you to EXPLAIN it and stop hiding behind "Uhhh its against the rules so I reported it uhhh"