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Which alcoholic beverage is the most right-wing?

Wine (Blood and Body?)
23
21%
Beer
22
21%
Vodka
6
6%
Mead
12
11%
Whiskey/Whisky
18
17%
Scotch (option included for Questers and old people)
9
8%
Rakı (option included specifically for Marches)
4
4%
Seltzers/Hard Ciders (because the Claw is the LAW)
5
5%
Gin
4
4%
Other (Rum/Brandy/Cognac/Tequila)
4
4%
 
Total votes : 107

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:29 pm



Pretty based setting for a game tbh. It's one that's relatively unexplored still.
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The East Marches II
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Postby The East Marches II » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:29 pm



Disgusting. Build a Great Northern Wall

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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:30 pm

Nap the Magnificent wrote:
Yeah it's really weird. Assassins Creed has sucked for awhile now tbh. Imagine turning Alfred the Great into a clear villain.


Tbh Assassin's Creed always kind of had an anti-Christian bias.

At least that's the vibe I got playing their games.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:30 pm

Though, thinking about it, they should have done something with the Frankish-Islamic conflict instead. Battle of Tours in a game plz
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Postby Nakena » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:30 pm



Assassins Creed has generally the tendency to turn one faction or other into the evil one and the other into the good for narrative purposes. Comes with the terretory and is kinda lame and shit. It's lazy pop history at tis worst.

Given that series like MGS did it so much more better and nuanced.
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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:31 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:


Pretty based setting for a game tbh. It's one that's relatively unexplored still.


I'd be fine with it if it didn't portray it so dishonestly. It is definitely a great period for a game.
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Postby Nap the Magnificent » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:32 pm

One thing I like about The Last Kingdom is that it doesnt really fetishize either side.
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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:32 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Though, thinking about it, they should have done something with the Frankish-Islamic conflict instead. Battle of Tours in a game plz


So the innocent Arab settlers and the mean and intolerant Franks? : P

Don't know if that would be much better.
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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:33 pm

The East Marches II wrote:


Disgusting. Build a Great Northern Wall


We're going to build a wall in the North Sea, and we're going to make the Vikings pay for it.
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Postby Nakena » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:35 pm

Mount and Blade: Viking Conquest is set that era, but its kinda basic.

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Postby Loben The 2nd » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:36 pm

Fucking heathens get the fuck out of my isle reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:37 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Though, thinking about it, they should have done something with the Frankish-Islamic conflict instead. Battle of Tours in a game plz


So the innocent Arab settlers and the mean and intolerant Franks? : P

Don't know if that would be much better.


I was thinking the other way around but idk how it would work with the whole stupid Assassin vs Templar plot they have.

Honestly the series could be really good by dropping you into a bunch of different time periods without that shitty plot that tries to link it all together.
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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:37 pm

Watching that trailer again, that one bit where he spares the woman and child is so funny when you think about it.

"Yeah, I invaded your homeland and am destroying your livelihood and home and probably killing your relatives, but I spared you to live whatever life you can scrape together after this so I'm the good guy."
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"In any case we clearly see....That some opportune remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class...it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition." -Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum

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Postby Loben The 2nd » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:38 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
So the innocent Arab settlers and the mean and intolerant Franks? : P

Don't know if that would be much better.


I was thinking the other way around but idk how it would work with the whole stupid Assassin vs Templar plot they have.

Honestly the series could be really by dropping you into a bunch of different time periods without that shitty plot that tries to link it all together.


well ubisoft has to have that one IP they constantly fuck up.
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Postby Nap the Magnificent » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:38 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Though, thinking about it, they should have done something with the Frankish-Islamic conflict instead. Battle of Tours in a game plz

That's asking for a shitstorm. Depict the Franks as the bad guys, you'll be getting a lot of French and RW wrath. Depict the Umayyads as the bad guys and expect the wrath of Muslims and the LW.
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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:40 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
So the innocent Arab settlers and the mean and intolerant Franks? : P

Don't know if that would be much better.


I was thinking the other way around but idk how it would work with the whole stupid Assassin vs Templar plot they have.

Honestly the series could be really good by dropping you into a bunch of different time periods without that shitty plot that tries to link it all together.


Assassin's Creed tends to prefer Islamic civilization from what I can tell.

Remember when Ezio killed off Byzantine resistance to solidify Ottoman rule?
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"In any case we clearly see....That some opportune remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class...it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition." -Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum

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Postby Novus America » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:40 pm

Fahran wrote:I do find the "no snitching" culture that has popped up here somewhat fascinating.

Nakena wrote:DI is strasserist afaik.

She is indeed.


A no snitching culture, as problematic as it can be (not much here though because it is only words, not the refusal to report a murder of one member of the community by another) arises from a (often justified) deep distrust of the authorities.

Because the moderation team is distrusted right despised here, and not without reason, it explains the no snitching culture, namely that people do not trust the authorities to handle things fairly and instead think authority involvement would make things worse.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:41 pm

Salus Maior wrote:Watching that trailer again, that one bit where he spares the woman and child is so funny when you think about it.

"Yeah, I invaded your homeland and am destroying your livelihood and home and probably killing your relatives, but I spared you to live whatever life you can scrape together after this so I'm the good guy."


"hey do you have a female relative i could ra---i mean have totally consensual sex with? dont want to get metoo'd you know."
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Postby Nap the Magnificent » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:41 pm

Though we shouldnt be surprised since Ubisoft is a Quebec company and most, not all, bougie Quebecois have some latent anti-Christian biases, especially towards Roman Catholicism.
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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:42 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:Watching that trailer again, that one bit where he spares the woman and child is so funny when you think about it.

"Yeah, I invaded your homeland and am destroying your livelihood and home and probably killing your relatives, but I spared you to live whatever life you can scrape together after this so I'm the good guy."


"hey do you have a female relative i could ra---i mean have totally consensual sex with? dont want to get metoo'd you know."


Vikings are so woke, dude, you don't even know.
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"In any case we clearly see....That some opportune remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class...it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition." -Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum

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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:42 pm

Nap the Magnificent wrote:Though we shouldnt be surprised since Ubisoft is a Quebec company and most, not all, bougie Quebecois have some latent anti-Christian biases, especially towards Roman Catholicism.


You mean like when Ezio shanked the Pope?
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"In any case we clearly see....That some opportune remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class...it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition." -Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum

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Postby Loben The 2nd » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:44 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:
"hey do you have a female relative i could ra---i mean have totally consensual sex with? dont want to get metoo'd you know."


Vikings are so woke, dude, you don't even know.


they raped, tortured, marauded Christendom, stole various riches, killed members of the clergy, peasantry, nobility equally and were generally fucking animals.

sounds like the PERFECT PROTAGONIST for ubisoft those fucking Quebecois fucks.
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Postby Novus America » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:46 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
So the innocent Arab settlers and the mean and intolerant Franks? : P

Don't know if that would be much better.


I was thinking the other way around but idk how it would work with the whole stupid Assassin vs Templar plot they have.

Honestly the series could be really good by dropping you into a bunch of different time periods without that shitty plot that tries to link it all together.


I agree, the problem with the series is the stupid and unnecessary Manichean subplot.
That forces them to make it good vs evil.

Rather than just picking a time frame and letting you act as an assassin/spy in it.
Actually it would be cool if the maybe it more like Fallout New Vegas, where you can support either side, (and have more than two possibly) or try to play multiple sides against the other.

If you had the New Vegas mechanic done well in a historical game in a cool time period it could be pretty great.
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Zombie Ike/Teddy Roosevelt 2020.

Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:46 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Vikings are so woke, dude, you don't even know.


they raped, tortured, marauded Christendom, stole various riches, killed members of the clergy, peasantry, nobility equally and were generally fucking animals.

sounds like the PERFECT PROTAGONIST for ubisoft those fucking Quebecois fucks.


Vikings were the original Progressives, duderino. You just don't understand them.
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"In any case we clearly see....That some opportune remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class...it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition." -Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum

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Postby Loben The 2nd » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:49 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:
they raped, tortured, marauded Christendom, stole various riches, killed members of the clergy, peasantry, nobility equally and were generally fucking animals.

sounds like the PERFECT PROTAGONIST for ubisoft those fucking Quebecois fucks.


Vikings were the original Progressives, duderino. You just don't understand them.


i keep forgetting the Vikings TV show popularized that view.

fucking history channel, id rather have the hitler channel back.
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