RWDT XX: The System Is Kapp Putsch

[North German Realm]

I thought it was a bad meme and acted accordingly, by ignoring it and envisioning even worse memes.

If people keep getting angry over a dumb meme, Stalin will return from the grave and take all of our food away.

I thought it was toothbrushes

[Fahran]

If people keep getting angry over a dumb meme, Stalin will return from the grave and take all of our food away.

If Stalin tries to stop me from baking, I'm going to put him right back in that grave.

[Senkaku]

The faux outrage over the delenda est sig on both sides is pretty pathetic and annoying, tbpfh.

I'm just annoyed Geni won't acknowledge what is actually means at this point

You should maybe, at this point, acknowledge that the "delenda est" bit is in bad taste- or embrace your genocidal side, idc either way, but this weird faux outrage is not flying. The term has very clear connotations, sticking your head in the sand about them is weird and a bad look.

Yeah I'll be sure to moderate my condemnation of a totalitarian regime because of your outrage.

Yes, I am famously pro-PRC lol

You should maybe, at this point, acknowledge that the "delenda est" bit is in bad taste- or embrace your genocidal side, idc either way, but this weird faux outrage is not flying. The term has very clear connotations, sticking your head in the sand about them is weird and a bad look.

Well or change it to whatever the Latin equivalent of the CCP would be.
Wanting to destroy a party is quite different than a country, nobody would blink if he said the Nazi Party must be destroyed.

There are somewhere north of 90 million members of the CCP, and they have the world's largest army sworn to protect them..?

It's literally the meaning of your statement. It was the phrase that justified the Third Punic War, in which the entire Carthaginian population was slaughtered and the few survivors enslaved.

So you're basing the meaning of my statement not by what is actually said...but by how someone else used it?
Life must be very confusing for you.

Yes, imagine making the direct reference suggested by someone using a statement lol, life is so confusing when you read any meaning whatsoever into any words people choose to use

[United Muscovite Nations]

As for my views on the Chinese government itself, tie me to a missile and fire me at the Great Hall of the People, I am ready!

[Nap the Magnificent]

Should I go back in time and get the Saddam memes to put the faux outrage to rest on both sides?

The difference is that rhetoric influences things. If some Chinese guy comes on here and knows any Roman history or Latin, and he sees "China must be destroyed" in the sigs of a bunch of Americans, do you think he'll come off with the impression that these Americans support his freedom?

No one is unironically using Saddam memes as rhetoric to discuss current Iraqi politics and what American policy in Iraq should be.

I think I've lost count of the times I've seen you use Saddam memes to reference current issues regarding Iran.

[Genivaria]

And again, Sina delenda est, I don't know if you know Latin at all, but that doesn't refer to the government of China. Sina explicitly refers to the nation and people of China.

So your issue is the grammar now? Your problem is that the grammar of the Latin is incorrect even though I clarified what was meant immediately after?
Wow that's kinda pathetic actually. Sorry I'm not a latin professor I guess?

[United Muscovite Nations]

If people keep getting angry over a dumb meme, Stalin will return from the grave and take all of our food away.

If Stalin tries to stop me from baking, I'm going to put him right back in that grave.

He's like 5'3" so you could probably take him. But if he teams up with Ben Shapiro, it's right out. Two manlets are stronger than one.

[Fahran]

As for my views on the Chinese government itself, tie me to a missile and fire me at the Great Hall of the People, I am ready!

Insh-llah!

[Cekoviu]

Indignatio delenda est, my dudes.

[Fahran]

He's like 5'3" so you could probably take him. But if he teams up with Ben Shapiro, it's right out. Two manlets are stronger than one.

I was today years old when I learned that I'm the same height as Stalin was.

[United Muscovite Nations]

The difference is that rhetoric influences things. If some Chinese guy comes on here and knows any Roman history or Latin, and he sees "China must be destroyed" in the sigs of a bunch of Americans, do you think he'll come off with the impression that these Americans support his freedom?

No one is unironically using Saddam memes as rhetoric to discuss current Iraqi politics and what American policy in Iraq should be.

I think I've lost count of the times I've seen you use Saddam memes to reference current issues regarding Iran.

Yes, but using memes in a private chat is obviously tongue-in-cheek and won't ever be seen by potential Iranian dissidents.

[Nap the Magnificent]

The faux outrage over the delenda est sig on both sides is pretty pathetic and annoying, tbpfh.

I'm just annoyed Geni won't acknowledge what is actually means at this point

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Get the fuck over it. It was two thousand years ago and with someone like Geni you shouldn't purposefully be putting on the retard cap to go acKshulLy yOuZ caLLin f3R genocideino

[United Muscovite Nations]

Also, I'm not even outraged. I pointed it out because Geni said I'm an "apologist for PRC imperialism", which is just outright slander because he has a grudge against me for reasons I don't understand.

[Fahran]

Yes, but using memes in a private chat is obviously tongue-in-cheek and won't ever be seen by potential Iranian dissidents.

Only a good and honest Hashemite can guide the Arab nations to success. :^)

[Genivaria]

Should I go back in time and get the Saddam memes to put the faux outrage to rest on both sides?

The difference is that rhetoric influences things. If some Chinese guy comes on here and knows any Roman history or Latin, and he sees "China must be destroyed" in the sigs of a bunch of Americans, do you think he'll come off with the impression that these Americans support his freedom?

No one is unironically using Saddam memes as rhetoric to discuss current Iraqi politics and what American policy in Iraq should be.

Oh so now it's 'influence ' that's the problem.
Nice backtrack.
You explicitly said that I said the genocide and enslavement of Chinese people and you were fucking lying, you were engaging in childish slander and you should do the adult thing and apologize.

[Diopolis]

Do they need to when I specify the intent of the phrase directly after? Please stop embarrassing yourself.

You should just remove the Latin bit tbh. China Must Be Destroyed is a bad statement. The CPC is evil, China as a nation and collection of peoples is not.

I mean, in fairness, the PRC was always a bit worse than the USSR or East Germany, and it's fair to say cultural factors were probably one of the reasons as to why(the enormous size of the place is one of the others).

[United Muscovite Nations]

Yes, but using memes in a private chat is obviously tongue-in-cheek and won't ever be seen by potential Iranian dissidents.

Only a good and honest Hashemite can guide the Arab nations to success. :^)

Pan Arabism is unworkable today.

[United Muscovite Nations]

The difference is that rhetoric influences things. If some Chinese guy comes on here and knows any Roman history or Latin, and he sees "China must be destroyed" in the sigs of a bunch of Americans, do you think he'll come off with the impression that these Americans support his freedom?

No one is unironically using Saddam memes as rhetoric to discuss current Iraqi politics and what American policy in Iraq should be.

Oh so now it's 'influence ' that's the problem.
Nice backtrack.
You explicitly said that I said the genocide and enslavement of Chinese people and you were fucking lying, you were engaging in childish slander and you should do the adult thing and apologize.

You said I was an apologist for PRC imperialism but now apparently I'm the one slandering you

[Fahran]

Pan Arabism is unworkable today.

I would never propose such an idea. I want multiple Arab nations all led by descendants of the Hashemites because Arab republicanism is super cursed, much like French republicanism.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Pan Arabism is unworkable today.

I would never propose such an idea. I want multiple Arab nations all led by descendants of the Hashemites because Arab republicanism is super cursed, much like French republicanism.

That's silly, no offense.

[Novus America]

So you are saying we should punish ourselves today for the crimes other people committed in the past? That is just silly. And has little basis in sensible international relations.
Revanchism never lead to anything besides war.

France, Germany and Poland have been able to largely reconcile. Many countries go from enemies to friends. Revanchism is insanity if it prevents you from adapting to changing conditions.

That sort of reconciliation only happens when one country is in such a weaker place, militarily -and diplomatically- speaking, that it has no other option than to submit and pretend it's making amends for "age-old wrongs". Neither China nor any western power is in that position to try to submit, hoping everyone pretends its "making amends" for stuff that happened centuries ago -that nobody is really even remotely sorry for.

Well actually most Western powers seem to be submitting already.
And the US and UK reconciled before either was weaker but sure, I do not expect us to reconcile.
But not because of past actions, but rather because the US and PRC have mutually exclusive geopolitical aims and ideologies. The thing past actions are a red herring to what is very much a contemporary, not historical problem.

[Senkaku]

Pan Arabism is unworkable today.

I would never propose such an idea. I want multiple Arab nations all led by descendants of the Hashemites because Arab republicanism is super cursed, much like French republicanism.

just go old school and do a couple of UN Mandates, have the Security Council appoint and staff military governments, and boom, problem solved

[Genivaria]

Oh so now it's 'influence ' that's the problem.
Nice backtrack.
You explicitly said that I said the genocide and enslavement of Chinese people and you were fucking lying, you were engaging in childish slander and you should do the adult thing and apologize.

You said I was an apologist for PRC imperialism but now apparently I'm the one slandering you

Yes were literally justifying PRC hostility against 'the west's with things done by other nations 200 years ago.
Yes you're an apologist for the PRC, honestly I don't know why you just own it.

[Imperium Romanum Sanctis]

Pan Arabism is unworkable today.

I would never propose such an idea. I want multiple Arab nations all led by descendants of the Hashemites because Arab republicanism is super cursed, much like French republicanism.

It's already been tried though.

In the aftermath of WWI, Iraq, the Hejaz and Jordan were all set up as Hashemite kingdoms. Only the latter survived.

[North German Realm]

Pan Arabism is unworkable today.

I would never propose such an idea. I want multiple Arab nations all led by descendants of the Hashemites because Arab republicanism is super cursed, much like French republicanism.

While monarchism seems to be working for the Gulf States, I'm not sure if -ignoring Jordan- monarchism would fix the dumpster fires in Syria and Iraq tbh.