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Which alcoholic beverage is the most right-wing?

Wine (Blood and Body?)
23
21%
Beer
22
21%
Vodka
6
6%
Mead
12
11%
Whiskey/Whisky
18
17%
Scotch (option included for Questers and old people)
9
8%
Rakı (option included specifically for Marches)
4
4%
Seltzers/Hard Ciders (because the Claw is the LAW)
5
5%
Gin
4
4%
Other (Rum/Brandy/Cognac/Tequila)
4
4%
 
Total votes : 107

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Diopolis
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Postby Diopolis » Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:57 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Oh, I'm just speaking of the inevitable. None of us have any control over it at this point.

If it happens, Christians should struggle against it. There is no point in forming coalition with white nationalists and their ilk.

I doubt white nationalists will be in the dominant position, lad.
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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:57 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:...transgender travel bans??

That thing about going to north carolina or whatever?
I think I phrased it poorly. But the right wing reaction will be redressing obvious bullshit about chic-fil-a and gay wedding cakes and however I should put the travel ban. We'll be back at rightly ordered and natural societies when the whole edifice burns down in a couple centuries.

do you mean the fact that trans people couldn't use the right bathroom in north carolina for a year or so, so they avoided going there? lmao
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The East Marches II
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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:59 pm

It used to mean Dio, the military, the intelligence services, police, big business and mafia all working together to run the show behind the scenes with a suitable veneer of Democracy to fool the moralists in the Western media. Far more sinister and effective!

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Postby Hakons » Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:59 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Fahran wrote:Local dances, often associated with the church or some other communal center, had long been an outlet to blow off some steam after a long week of work and socialize with eligible members of the opposite sex, and this was true across disparate cultures. I think it's sad that they've gone out of style to a significant degree. Clubs provide a similar function but one can notice how the age at which we prioritize these sorts of activities has been pushed back as becoming good worker drones has become the focal point of our adolescent and young adult lives.

Exactly. Community dances really do fulfill a good function.


>When there's no agrarian spring festival to go to even though you're surrounded by farm fields and barns :'(
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Postby Nakena » Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:59 pm

Diopolis wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:This sounds like a horrible idea.

Oh, I'm just speaking of the inevitable. None of us have any control over it at this point.


Is it an deduction of yours or is this sentiment shared amongst other people?

I am genuinely curious about if they are blogs our certain outlets that is.

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Postby Kowani » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:00 pm

Nakena wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Oh, I'm just speaking of the inevitable. None of us have any control over it at this point.


Is it an deduction of yours or is this sentiment shared amongst other people?

I am genuinely curious about if they are blogs our certain outlets that is.

It’s Marxist “inevitability of a revolution” but in right-wing reactionary form.
Equally nonsensical.
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Postby Xuloqoia » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:03 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:The Spartans had the right idea about expelling unhealthy and unclean (read: fat) people out of the polis if they refused to straighten up, tbh.


Come now Dagashi, we wouldn't want to see you leave the States.


I mean, if anything Hana has the opposite problem, being unhealthily thin that is. Something, something, Aristotle; something, something, Golden Mean.

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Xuloqoia wrote:
Well, yes; it's how I normally dress.


Thats very classy of you. Unironically.


I developed a proper dress sense during my high school years. I was privately educated, and my school had a strict dress code dictating what was and wasn't acceptable attire.
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Postby Nakena » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:05 pm

Xuloqoia wrote:I developed a proper dress sense during my high school years. I was privately educated, and my school had a strict dress code dictating what was and wasn't acceptable attire).


Ah, well I also tend to dress very classy but I've always had some very good sense for fashion. Guess it runs in my blood.

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Postby Imperium Romanum Sanctis » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:09 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:If it happens, Christians should struggle against it. There is no point in forming coalition with white nationalists and their ilk.


Remember the lesson of the Spanish Civil War Anon. Secure the leadership of the coalition and then purge them from meaningful power.


Bonus points if you convince the Fascists in your coalition to join some German guy's war against Russia as a volunteer division. Ideally a decent amount of them will bugger off and die in some godforsaken Ukrainian marshland.

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The East Marches II
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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:10 pm

Imperium Romanum Sanctis wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Remember the lesson of the Spanish Civil War Anon. Secure the leadership of the coalition and then purge them from meaningful power.


Bonus points if you convince the Fascists in your coalition to join some German guy's war against Russia as a volunteer division. Ideally a decent amount of them will bugger off and die in some godforsaken Ukrainian marshland.


Very good point Anon. I had forgotten that bit.

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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:11 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:If it happens, Christians should struggle against it. There is no point in forming coalition with white nationalists and their ilk.


Remember the lesson of the Spanish Civil War Anon. Secure the leadership of the coalition and then purge them from meaningful power.

The Carlists were completely drowned out by the Falangists though
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Postby Legitimist Mirial » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:12 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Remember the lesson of the Spanish Civil War Anon. Secure the leadership of the coalition and then purge them from meaningful power.

The Carlists were completely drowned out by the Falangists though

And then Franco drowned them out and became a US puppet after WW2.

It all worked out in the end.
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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:13 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Remember the lesson of the Spanish Civil War Anon. Secure the leadership of the coalition and then purge them from meaningful power.

The Carlists were completely drowned out by the Falangists though


Yes, they were neutered too. Franco became King in all but name, playing whoever was winning off the other. He might be better thought of as a conquering feudal lord than in our modern understanding of things. Hugh Thomas was perhaps right in his characterization there.

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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:13 pm

Legitimist Mirial wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:The Carlists were completely drowned out by the Falangists though

And then Franco drowned them out and became a US puppet after WW2.

It all worked out in the end.

Franco was a Falangist, he tried to institute syndicalist and corporatist policies, but just said "fuck it free market time" after they failed
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Postby Fahran » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:15 pm

Galloism wrote:In most states, he could do that right now legally. I believe the limit for personal use is still 200 gallons per year.

I think you need a license still.

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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:16 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Legitimist Mirial wrote:And then Franco drowned them out and became a US puppet after WW2.

It all worked out in the end.

Franco was a Falangist, he tried to institute syndicalist and corporatist policies, but just said "fuck it free market time" after they failed


You are assuming he actually believed these things and this wasn't to provide a shield against the people currently rampaging around Europe. That is a mistake. Granada has an excellent series on it, there is a section in Franco which sums up in short what most serious books on the topic confirm, he had no real ideology but winning.

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Postby Fahran » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:21 pm

The East Marches II wrote:You are assuming he actually believed these things and this wasn't to provide a shield against the people currently rampaging around Europe. That is a mistake. Granada has an excellent series on it, there is a section in Franco which sums up in short what most serious books on the topic confirm, he had no real ideology but winning.

^ This. He does seem to have been an observant Catholic and fervent anti-communist as well, which has been employed by some to explain his intervention on the side of the nationalists. He did seem hesitant to intercede initially if I remember right. But he definitely wasn't a dye-in-the-wool Falangist or Carlist.

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Postby Fahran » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:22 pm

I'm now envisioning how the inhabitants of the RWDT would fare under a right-wing dictatorship. Bad news, boys and girls, a lot of us are getting purged or exiled.

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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:23 pm

Fahran wrote:I'm now envisioning how the inhabitants of the RWDT would fare under a right-wing dictatorship. Bad news, boys and girls, a lot of us are getting purged or exiled.

yeah, i'd immediately off myself if a right-wing dictator took over, bc i'd be dying anyway
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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:25 pm

Fahran wrote:I'm now envisioning how the inhabitants of the RWDT would fare under a right-wing dictatorship. Bad news, boys and girls, a lot of us are getting purged or exiled.

Yep, the most common form of right wing extremism here is those weird Nordic Resistance Movement people who claim Nords are whiter than other whites, and everyone should revert to Norse paganism because "Christianity is a cult of personality around a dead brown guy"
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Postby Galloism » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:26 pm

Fahran wrote:
Galloism wrote:In most states, he could do that right now legally. I believe the limit for personal use is still 200 gallons per year.

I think you need a license still.

Not in most states, as long as you don't brew more than 200 gallons per year, and use it for personal use.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:27 pm

Transjlwanja wrote:As long as essential emergency & maintenance vehicles were still allowed, banning motorized vehicles would save a lot more lives than keeping them around. We only tolerate widespread use of motorized vehicles b/c they're so much more convenient than what came before.

The lack of trucks, trains, and planes might lead to the starvation of millions, if not billions.
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Postby Imperium Romanum Sanctis » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:27 pm

Fahran wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:You are assuming he actually believed these things and this wasn't to provide a shield against the people currently rampaging around Europe. That is a mistake. Granada has an excellent series on it, there is a section in Franco which sums up in short what most serious books on the topic confirm, he had no real ideology but winning.

^ This. He does seem to have been an observant Catholic and fervent anti-communist as well, which has been employed by some to explain his intervention on the side of the nationalists. He did seem hesitant to intercede initially if I remember right. But he definitely wasn't a dye-in-the-wool Falangist or Carlist.


Yeah, it's also worth noting that he was pretty much exiled to the Canaries by the Republican government prior to the outbreak of the Civil War; and when the Nationalists came to ask him to join their side, they pretty much told him they'd be rebelling with or without his help. It's unlikely he'd have participated in the Civil War if events hadn't forced his hand.

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Postby Deacarsia » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:27 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Diopolis wrote:There's a right wing dictatorship coming. That will include conservative Christians as an important(but probably not dominant) part of the governing coalition, and, well, it's easier to satisfy your constituents by punishing people who made pointless enemies with them than by actually doing anything.
Bullshit about gay wedding cakes and transgender travel bans will look really stupid then.

This sounds like a horrible idea.

I disagree. This idea sounds increasingly appealing as the culture continues to degenerate.
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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:30 pm

Deacarsia wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:This sounds like a horrible idea.

I disagree. This idea sounds increasingly appealing as the culture continues to degenerate.

you're saying the culture is degenerating, so we should also fill the political system with degeneracy. absurd.
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