by Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:20 pm
by Ourisio » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:26 pm
by Rojava Free State » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:28 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:28 pm
Ourisio wrote:oh shut the fuck up you bloviating bastard.
by Bieva » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:29 pm
by Nationstatorship » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:31 pm
by Kathol Rift » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:32 pm
by Jakker » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:33 pm
Ourisio wrote:Shut the fuck up you bloviating bastard.
The Bruce wrote:Mostly I feel sorry for [raiders], because they put in all this effort and at the end of the day have nothing to show for it and have created nothing.
by South Ccanda » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:42 pm
by Libertas Omnium Maximus » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:43 pm
by Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:48 pm
South Ccanda wrote:OP, what do you propose we do? not work? then what?
by Ethel mermania » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:50 pm
by Nattily Dressed Anarchists on Bicycles » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:51 pm
Libertas Omnium Maximus wrote:Now what? I can starve to death or I can apply for some kind of a government program and live off of other people's work as a parasite. Neither of those options sound particularly pleasant to me.
by Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:51 pm
Libertas Omnium Maximus wrote:The problem with your theory, OP, is that you don't follow it to its natural conclusion. Let's say, hypothetically, that I accept all of your points as valid and quit my job. Now what? I can starve to death or I can apply for some kind of a government program and live off of other people's work as a parasite. Neither of those options sound particularly pleasant to me.
by Libertas Omnium Maximus » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:52 pm
Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania wrote:South Ccanda wrote:OP, what do you propose we do? not work? then what?
Well, there's a lot of solutions for a lot of people. I do genuinely think that most people can find a way to either get on welfare or make money online in ways that aren't wage labour, and are far less demeaning. Look at your landlord - does he work for a third of your pay? Personally (although it's irrelevant in the grand scheme of things) I've been going the welfare route so far. I'm below the poverty line, but I actually manage to save money because I'm frugal and i make it work.
It takes a little bit of luck and cunning to do, if you do something online the skillset for that won't be taught to you in many places, but what's the cost-benefit ratio of it relative to working? That's why I'm using the word "scam". What do you put in, and what do you get out of it?
by Ourisio » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:52 pm
by Ethel mermania » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:54 pm
by Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:54 pm
Libertas Omnium Maximus wrote:Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania wrote:Well, there's a lot of solutions for a lot of people. I do genuinely think that most people can find a way to either get on welfare or make money online in ways that aren't wage labour, and are far less demeaning. Look at your landlord - does he work for a third of your pay? Personally (although it's irrelevant in the grand scheme of things) I've been going the welfare route so far. I'm below the poverty line, but I actually manage to save money because I'm frugal and i make it work.
It takes a little bit of luck and cunning to do, if you do something online the skillset for that won't be taught to you in many places, but what's the cost-benefit ratio of it relative to working? That's why I'm using the word "scam". What do you put in, and what do you get out of it?
Welfare can only be provided through tax revenue. If everyone is on welfare than no one is paying for it. Do the math.
by Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:55 pm
Ourisio wrote:Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania wrote:Be Gay - Do Crime
You're using some choice language ("vibrant youth"; "Abdi raiding Tesco's") that I'd expect to hear from some tory backbencher fuckwit, so I don't buy the 'new-found realization of capitalism and its discontents' spiel you've got going, tbh. So please explain what you meant, if you're not too busy LARPing being "blackpilled".
by Ethel mermania » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:56 pm
Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania wrote:Libertas Omnium Maximus wrote:
Welfare can only be provided through tax revenue. If everyone is on welfare than no one is paying for it. Do the math.
So the current system ceases to exist.
Work hasn't been paid by the hour at a call centre desk for most of human history. Work in Ancient Rome or Northwestern Europe before the black death was very different to what it is now. The only reason I use "work" to refer to wageslavery is because wageslavery has so thoroughly consumed all work and turned it into wage labour.
by Libertas Omnium Maximus » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:56 pm
Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania wrote:When you put it like that it doesn't sound fantastic, but the system is so broken it begs the following question - is it really that unethical to mooch off a system built on such uncompensated exploitation?
by Vetalia » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:57 pm
When anything goes wrong, they WILL throw you under the bus. The managers WILL fuck you over if it saves their skin.
by Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:57 pm
Ethel mermania wrote:Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania wrote:So the current system ceases to exist.
Work hasn't been paid by the hour at a call centre desk for most of human history. Work in Ancient Rome or Northwestern Europe before the black death was very different to what it is now. The only reason I use "work" to refer to wageslavery is because wageslavery has so thoroughly consumed all work and turned it into wage labour.
You dont know much history either. Where does the english word "salary" come from?
by Purple Rats » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:57 pm
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