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What do you self-describe as, economically?

Poll ended at Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:31 pm

Communist
22
11%
Socialist
56
28%
Social
35
17%
Centrist
31
15%
Market
20
10%
Capitalist
24
12%
Laissez-Faire
13
6%
 
Total votes : 201

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Postby Cisairse » Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:13 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
The Cosmic Mainframe wrote:Yeah, I'm more inclined to describe myself as Libertarian Socialist.

Although when I took LeftValues, I ended up a lot more moderate because I don't define myself well on issues that divide left. I just know I'm against capitalism, and I hate dictatorships. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Yeah that's basically my views, although I don't exactly fit in with socialists because I'm pro private property.


Definitely not as far left as NSG gets then lol
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Wed Apr 15, 2020 1:28 am

I'm not sure how much I agree with the dichotomy tests results; they don't seem entirely consistent with each other and the political one puts me on the right while all the other tests I've posted earlier put me on the left. Along with the other tests, they do demonstrate that I'm quite far from the totalitarian that some of our anarkiddies would like to imagine, there I suppose is your "shocking reveal" if we're doing those.

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Postby Theodosiya » Wed Apr 15, 2020 2:07 am

When you thought people would accuses you as fascist/authoritarian dictator, yet the tests shows the opposite...
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:11 am

Cisairse wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Yeah that's basically my views, although I don't exactly fit in with socialists because I'm pro private property.


Definitely not as far left as NSG gets then lol


There's actual communists here. I'm only far left as hell when you compare me to a lot of people here in Michissippi, and I'm talking people outside the Detroit metro area. You know, your trumpster types. Socialism and social democracy and anarchism are very popular among people my age here but that's because they're younger and they're mainly people of color. Among aging white boomers in a place like Livingston County, Bernie Sanders is literally Joseph Stalin.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Nakena » Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:21 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
Definitely not as far left as NSG gets then lol


There's actual communists here. I'm only far left as hell when you compare me to a lot of people here in Michissippi, and I'm talking people outside the Detroit metro area. You know, your trumpster types. Socialism and social democracy and anarchism are very popular among people my age here but that's because they're younger and they're mainly people of color. Among aging white boomers in a place like Livingston County, Bernie Sanders is literally Joseph Stalin.


You're not subscribing to their understanding of the world and keep an independent mind. That is a good thing imo.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:23 am

http://www.dichotomytests.com/results.html?id=5

http://www.dichotomytests.com/results.html?id=0

Well the political test confirmed that I'm a libertarian leftist like always.

Unfortunately I'm still a hopeless romantic according to the philosophy test.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Cisairse » Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:24 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
Definitely not as far left as NSG gets then lol


There's actual communists here. I'm only far left as hell when you compare me to a lot of people here in Michissippi, and I'm talking people outside the Detroit metro area. You know, your trumpster types. Socialism and social democracy and anarchism are very popular among people my age here but that's because they're younger and they're mainly people of color. Among aging white boomers in a place like Livingston County, Bernie Sanders is literally Joseph Stalin.


Yeah that sounds about right. I miss New York — out here in the Deep South Jersey I'm generally surrounded by people who would probably get very angry if you said that our state fought against the confederates. I once accidentally walked into an anti-property-tax protest. There was no hike or anything, they were just protesting the existence of property taxes.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:26 am

Nakena wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
There's actual communists here. I'm only far left as hell when you compare me to a lot of people here in Michissippi, and I'm talking people outside the Detroit metro area. You know, your trumpster types. Socialism and social democracy and anarchism are very popular among people my age here but that's because they're younger and they're mainly people of color. Among aging white boomers in a place like Livingston County, Bernie Sanders is literally Joseph Stalin.


You're not subscribing to their understanding of the world and keep an independent mind. That is a good thing imo.


I mean I don't subscribe to most peoples' understanding of the world even where I'm at. Because while many of them like Bernier progressive ideas, they also like the idea of shooting to thrill, and the only thing I do is weed and whiskey.
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Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:29 am

Cisairse wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
There's actual communists here. I'm only far left as hell when you compare me to a lot of people here in Michissippi, and I'm talking people outside the Detroit metro area. You know, your trumpster types. Socialism and social democracy and anarchism are very popular among people my age here but that's because they're younger and they're mainly people of color. Among aging white boomers in a place like Livingston County, Bernie Sanders is literally Joseph Stalin.


Yeah that sounds about right. I miss New York — out here in the Deep South Jersey I'm generally surrounded by people who would probably get very angry if you said that our state fought against the confederates. I once accidentally walked into an anti-property-tax protest. There was no hike or anything, they were just protesting the existence of property taxes.


Harrison Township is like that. Mount Clemens and Roseville, the stereotypical ghetto, are both only maybe four or five miles away from it and it's this rural marshland on the coast of Lake St Clair where all the anti property tax people go and build a cabin or a mansion depending on how much money they got. Four miles doesn't sound like much but last time there was a riot in Mount Clemens, they didn't even notice a small annoying noise in the background.
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Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Purple Rats » Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:39 am

Rojava Free State wrote:You're like the tenth person here who shocked me by turning out to be a woman. I always assumed that roleplaying about nations was a thing only geeky dudes do in their spare time.


You know what, Dear, you should just stop assuming everyone's gender all the time, so you would not be so shocked all the time :lol2: :lol2: :hug:

Rojava Free State wrote:Is there anyone else here who has something shocking to reveal?


The Cosmic Mainframe wrote:
I'm actually in favor of Antifa, even if I wouldn't get involved with them myself. Compared to what fascists are doing, doxxing people, deplatforming, and throwing milkshakes is a fairly minor response in my opinion.


Same. When I was younger, I had way-way more radical ideas. Now, not so much. But I still support AntiFa.

And I used to live in Squats; I take part of LGBT+ supporting demonstrations, and I'm animal rights activist.
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Postby The V O I D » Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:19 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:I'm not sure how much I agree with the dichotomy tests results; they don't seem entirely consistent with each other and the political one puts me on the right while all the other tests I've posted earlier put me on the left. Along with the other tests, they do demonstrate that I'm quite far from the totalitarian that some of our anarkiddies would like to imagine, there I suppose is your "shocking reveal" if we're doing those.





I saw this and was like, “oh, let me try.”

Here are the results:

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In hindsight, these results were mostly expected.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:19 am

The Cosmic Mainframe wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:Is there anyone else here who has something shocking to reveal?

I'm a DSA member in good standing, and considering joining IWW when I enter the workforce. I like the idea of one big union.

I'm actually in favor of Antifa, even if I wouldn't get involved with them myself. Compared to what fascists are doing, doxxing people, deplatforming, and throwing milkshakes is a fairly minor response in my opinion.

That's about as shocking as my political views get.


I think antifa in the sense the term is used here in America are a bunch of no good punks looking for a fight. They damage innocent people's businesses, attack people for being fascists even if they aren't actually fascist at all (Joey Gibson), and are nowhere to be found when real haters show up half the time (Black Hebrew Israelites, Islamiststs and other people who count as fascists in my book but are too darkly complected for antifa to fight). Besides, I don't believe in violently assaulting people for their ideas no matter how nasty they are. It just makes it look like you don't have a feasible argument against them.
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Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Crylante » Wed Apr 15, 2020 1:15 pm

Tried the Dichotomy Test.

Left (75.3%) vs Right (24.7%)
Naturalist (59.3%) vs Transcendental (40.7%)
Progressive (74.4%) vs Entropic (25.6%)
Deconstructive (71.6%) vs Traditional (29.4%)
Equality (91.3%) vs Hierarchy (8.7%)
Liberation (78.2%) vs Control (21.8%)

Also got flagged up on Anarchist, Critical Theorist, Intersectional and Liberal.

I... do not identify as an anarchist and I quite strongly believe in the existence of a state in order to properly guarantee various positive liberties, and I wouldn't exactly call myself a liberal due to its specific British meaning, although would describe myself as intersectional in my approach to things.
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Postby New Lunenburg » Wed Apr 15, 2020 1:24 pm

I found the philosophy dichotomy test very interesting!

https://dichotomytests.com/results.html?id=0
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Postby Union of Sovereign States and Republics » Wed Apr 15, 2020 1:33 pm

honestly, seeing heloin like that was a shock to me. she was way less extreme than i thought. i thought she was a full on commutardnard from kaiserreich
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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:14 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
Definitely not as far left as NSG gets then lol


There's actual communists here. I'm only far left as hell when you compare me to a lot of people here in Michissippi, and I'm talking people outside the Detroit metro area. You know, your trumpster types. Socialism and social democracy and anarchism are very popular among people my age here but that's because they're younger and they're mainly people of color. Among aging white boomers in a place like Livingston County, Bernie Sanders is literally Joseph Stalin.

West Michigan is basically Indiana. There's no other apt comparison besides that.
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Postby Union of Sovereign States and Republics » Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:18 pm

Here's my philosophy.

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I like to think of myself as having a similar spiritual philosophy to Abraham Lincoln - that an Earth this beautiful couldn't be created by chance, and had to be made by a creator. Despite that, though, I believe in evolution and similar topics, such as extraterrestrial life. I just don't believe that planets like ours that can support life came out of nowhere and had to be created by God.
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I consider myself conservative fiscally and in government and liberal socially.
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Postby Cekoviu » Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:48 pm

Union of Sovereign States and Republics wrote:Here's my philosophy.

https://dichotomytests.com/results.html?id=0

I like to think of myself as having a similar spiritual philosophy to Abraham Lincoln - that an Earth this beautiful couldn't be created by chance, and had to be made by a creator. Despite that, though, I believe in evolution and similar topics, such as extraterrestrial life. I just don't believe that planets like ours that can support life came out of nowhere and had to be created by God.

That test is designed so that your results are saved as a cookie. You need to save a screenshot; linking it just sends us to our own results page.
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Postby Kowani » Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:10 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
The Cosmic Mainframe wrote:I'm a DSA member in good standing, and considering joining IWW when I enter the workforce. I like the idea of one big union.

I'm actually in favor of Antifa, even if I wouldn't get involved with them myself. Compared to what fascists are doing, doxxing people, deplatforming, and throwing milkshakes is a fairly minor response in my opinion.

That's about as shocking as my political views get.


I think antifa in the sense the term is used here in America are a bunch of no good punks looking for a fight. They damage innocent people's businesses, attack people for being fascists even if they aren't actually fascist at all (Joey Gibson), and are nowhere to be found when real haters show up half the time (Black Hebrew Israelites, Islamiststs and other people who count as fascists in my book but are too darkly complected for antifa to fight). Besides, I don't believe in violently assaulting people for their ideas no matter how nasty they are. It just makes it look like you don't have a feasible argument against them.

Someone ask the Social Democrats how the peaceful dialogue route worked out.
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Postby Union of Sovereign States and Republics » Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:53 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Union of Sovereign States and Republics wrote:Here's my philosophy.

https://dichotomytests.com/results.html?id=0

I like to think of myself as having a similar spiritual philosophy to Abraham Lincoln - that an Earth this beautiful couldn't be created by chance, and had to be made by a creator. Despite that, though, I believe in evolution and similar topics, such as extraterrestrial life. I just don't believe that planets like ours that can support life came out of nowhere and had to be created by God.

That test is designed so that your results are saved as a cookie. You need to save a screenshot; linking it just sends us to our own results page.

Fixed.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:56 pm

Kowani wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
I think antifa in the sense the term is used here in America are a bunch of no good punks looking for a fight. They damage innocent people's businesses, attack people for being fascists even if they aren't actually fascist at all (Joey Gibson), and are nowhere to be found when real haters show up half the time (Black Hebrew Israelites, Islamiststs and other people who count as fascists in my book but are too darkly complected for antifa to fight). Besides, I don't believe in violently assaulting people for their ideas no matter how nasty they are. It just makes it look like you don't have a feasible argument against them.

Someone ask the Social Democrats how the peaceful dialogue route worked out.


I'm not saying be a pushover. I've had to fight an actual nazi before (not a republican, an actual white power skinhead) and I knocked some of his teeth out. But I didn't start the fight. He swung first, so I rocked his shit.

The best advice I could give you is never start a fight, but if someone else starts one, fight to win. Until the racists make an actual move, just let them talk. But the minute they swing, you gotta fight. Antifa starts fights and often with people who aren't even fascists. I can't respect a bunch of no good clowns like antifa making all anti fascists look like idiots.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Union of Sovereign States and Republics » Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:58 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Kowani wrote:Someone ask the Social Democrats how the peaceful dialogue route worked out.


I'm not saying be a pushover. I've had to fight an actual nazi before (not a republican, an actual white power skinhead) and I knocked some of his teeth out. But I didn't start the fight. He swung first, so I rocked his shit.

The best advice I could give you is never start a fight, but if someone else starts one, fight to win. Until the racists make an actual move, just let them talk. But the minute they swing, you gotta fight. Antifa starts fights and often with people who aren't even fascists. I can't respect a bunch of no good clowns like antifa making all anti fascists look like idiots.

My thoughts exactly. They've nearly killed a guy for protesting fascism, something they claim to do, and remember bikelock guy?
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:01 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
There's actual communists here. I'm only far left as hell when you compare me to a lot of people here in Michissippi, and I'm talking people outside the Detroit metro area. You know, your trumpster types. Socialism and social democracy and anarchism are very popular among people my age here but that's because they're younger and they're mainly people of color. Among aging white boomers in a place like Livingston County, Bernie Sanders is literally Joseph Stalin.

West Michigan is basically Indiana. There's no other apt comparison besides that.


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Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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