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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:39 am

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Do you want to clog up the toilets?

I'd honestly still be interested in trying some. Back when I had some money I considered buying a bunch off Amazon or something for a time like this but ultimately decided against it.


I've never had Yank ones but the British version is pretty good. I never really understood why people complained about them.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:40 am

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The Alma Mater wrote:So, tigers can get the virus, cops in India wear corona-shaped helmets to promote awareness and Trump is going bankrupt.

Is that all the new news ?

One of these things is not like the others.


True, the India thing is a week old. But I only heard about it today.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:41 am

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San Lumen wrote:What is an MRE? Since you want a manhunt for anyone who leaves their apartment or house to walk the dog or leaves at all you therefore would have me arrested for going on a hike yesterday?


An MRE is a Meal, Ready-to-Eat.
A military ration.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meal,_Ready-to-Eat

But again that would not be necessary as trailers could be swapped at the zone borders. Commercial semi trucks have interchangeable detachable trailers that can be dropped and picked up by another tractor in just a few minutes.

And I doubt your hike took you outside the NYC area.

I left the city to be with family

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So therefore walking the dog would mean your arrest and if be arrested for hiking a hill?


There are places that are doing this. If yours isn't and you are able to maintain proper social distancing in your hikes (we walk every evening after everyone's indoors), you shouldn't have a problem. Now, if your area institutes stringent measures like I know PR has done (Sundays it's stay in or you'll be fined/arrested if you don't), then yes, you could be arrested.


I doubt they are going to do that and it would damm hard to enforce

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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:41 am

Pussy Galore has died. Not of coronavirus though, just natural causes.

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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:41 am

The Alma Mater wrote:Well, in some countries you'd be shot for that.

As if that's actually a good thing.
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Postby Gormwood » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:41 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Gormwood wrote:One of these things is not like the others.


True, the India thing is a week old. But I only heard about it today.

Trump. He always goes bankrupt, to make cash, cheat employees and leave the cleanup to someone else.
Bloodthirsty savages who call for violence against the Right while simultaneously being unarmed defenseless sissies who will get slaughtered by the gun-toting Right in a civil war.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:42 am

San Lumen wrote:
Novus America wrote:
An MRE is a Meal, Ready-to-Eat.
A military ration.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meal,_Ready-to-Eat

But again that would not be necessary as trailers could be swapped at the zone borders. Commercial semi trucks have interchangeable detachable trailers that can be dropped and picked up by another tractor in just a few minutes.

And I doubt your hike took you outside the NYC area.

I left the city to be with family

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
There are places that are doing this. If yours isn't and you are able to maintain proper social distancing in your hikes (we walk every evening after everyone's indoors), you shouldn't have a problem. Now, if your area institutes stringent measures like I know PR has done (Sundays it's stay in or you'll be fined/arrested if you don't), then yes, you could be arrested.


I doubt they are going to do that and it would damm hard to enforce


It's been done already.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:43 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I left the city to be with family



I doubt they are going to do that and it would damm hard to enforce


It's been done already.

How the heck are you going to enforce that in a state like New York? It’s geography is extremely varied

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Postby Novus America » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:43 am

Pyrghium wrote:
Novus America wrote:What confuses me is why people ardently in support of shelter in place orders are completely against some checkpoints to help enforce them. Texas has already placed checkpoints with Louisiana apparently.

Because different places have different peak times and different levels of risk, dividing into the country into zones, allowing some restrictions to be lifted some places sooner would be a good idea. But to make it work you would have to restrict non essential travel between zones.

It is that simple really.


The problem, however, is not just the quarantine measures. There’s also the economic collateral damage from all this, which is going to wipe out people’s livelihoods and savings. People are going to lose a lot; and the Government frantically injecting cash into the System, and printing currency up the wazoo is not going to help anybody. I’m much more concerned about the unrest from the economic downturn, and the political, social, and economic ramifications from that, than I am about the quarantine or the virus itself.

The Elites are looking out for themselves and their fat cat cronies on Wall Street: the multinational corporations, big banks, and all the other “Too Big to Fails”; handing bailouts like loot bags at a 5 year old’s birthday party; while telling the average Joe there’s just not enough money to help out him and his family, and he can only expect to receive a couple of months worth of Government cheques. This is going to enrage people; and if it persists long enough, with no solution or no distraction there will be blood in the streets and politicians hanging from lampposts. To prevent this unsavoury ending, our Rulers will doubtless seek to engineer some foreign adventure or other catastrophe, so as to take our attention off our economic woes and the corruption and ineffectivity of the System. That’s where things get really dangerous, and where Major Wars tend to be fought. I think the next few years are going to be quite the bumpy ride.


But the point is this would actually help the economy more, as many restrictions in low risk areas could be lifted as soon as possible. Thus helping to reduce the problems. The best way to fix the economic damage is to implement such a zone based system, as much of the country would be a low risk zone.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:44 am

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:Well, in some countries you'd be shot for that.

As if that's actually a good thing.

I thought Americans liked protecting themselves and their loved ones with guns ?
But no. It is not.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:45 am

San Lumen wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
It's been done already.

How the heck are you going to enforce that in a state like New York? It’s geography is extremely varied


I'm not talking about NY, kid. I'm talking about many places around the world. And if it's necessary in NY, I'm sure your state will find a way to implement it. We're at a point where the needs of the many outweigh mine and your personal needs.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:45 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:People still need to obtain groceries.


Feed them on MREs. Really crank up the pressure.

You will pry my barbeque spatula out of my cold dead hands.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:46 am

Gormwood wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
True, the India thing is a week old. But I only heard about it today.

Trump. He always goes bankrupt, to make cash, cheat employees and leave the cleanup to someone else.


Ah, fair. But while he certainly is responsible - he after all issued all the measures that are hurting the hotel industry - I actually cannot blame him this time.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:47 am

San Lumen wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
It's been done already.

How the heck are you going to enforce that in a state like New York? It’s geography is extremely varied


https://i.imgur.com/C4PFF86.mp4

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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:49 am

San Lumen wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
It's been done already.

How the heck are you going to enforce that in a state like New York? It’s geography is extremely varied

All you have to do is seal the bronx and the hudson river crossings.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:49 am

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Do you want to clog up the toilets?

I'd honestly still be interested in trying some. Back when I had some money I considered buying a bunch off Amazon or something for a time like this but ultimately decided against it.

They aren’t bad but after awhile you’ll give birth to an MRE baby
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:50 am

The Alma Mater wrote:I thought Americans liked protecting themselves and their loved ones with guns ?

Maybe if someone broke into my house, sure.

Fartsniffage wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:I'd honestly still be interested in trying some. Back when I had some money I considered buying a bunch off Amazon or something for a time like this but ultimately decided against it.


I've never had Yank ones but the British version is pretty good. I never really understood why people complained about them.

I've heard some of the menus are pretty shit, like the vegetarian stuff.
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Postby Vetalia » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:50 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
San Lumen wrote:How the heck are you going to enforce that in a state like New York? It’s geography is extremely varied

All you have to do is seal the bronx and the hudson river crossings.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escape_from_New_York
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Postby Vetalia » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:51 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
San Lumen wrote:How the heck are you going to enforce that in a state like New York? It’s geography is extremely varied


https://i.imgur.com/C4PFF86.mp4


But what about undercooking chicken? :o
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:51 am

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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:51 am

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:I thought Americans liked protecting themselves and their loved ones with guns ?

Maybe if someone broke into my house, sure.

Fartsniffage wrote:
I've never had Yank ones but the British version is pretty good. I never really understood why people complained about them.

I've heard some of the menus are pretty shit, like the vegetarian stuff.

Beef Stroganoff was my favorite.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:53 am

Vetalia wrote:


But what about undercooking chicken? :o

Salmonella right away
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Postby Nakena » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:53 am

Fartsniffage wrote:Pussy Galore has died. Not of coronavirus though, just natural causes.


With 94 years no less.

Press F for respect.

Just looked her up, she aged quite well!

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Postby The Alma Mater » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:55 am

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:I thought Americans liked protecting themselves and their loved ones with guns ?

Maybe if someone broke into my house, sure.


What if someone walks towards your daughter with a knife ?
What is he walks towards your granny with a cough ?

But yes, the country that shoots to kill people breaking quarantine is being bad.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:00 am

Thermodolia wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:I'd honestly still be interested in trying some. Back when I had some money I considered buying a bunch off Amazon or something for a time like this but ultimately decided against it.

They aren’t bad but after awhile you’ll give birth to an MRE baby

I can imagine. I've been subsisting on pizza rolls, hot pockets, mac n cheese, tater tots and instant noodles the last few weeks and my ass is thankful I have the amount of TP and wet wipes I have.

Thermodolia wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Maybe if someone broke into my house, sure.


I've heard some of the menus are pretty shit, like the vegetarian stuff.

Beef Stroganoff was my favorite.

I also hear the chili mac and cheese tortellini is good as well.
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- Due process
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- Religious freedom
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