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Postby Tinhampton » Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:29 am

I can remember all those weeks ago when retail/hospitality/etc. businesses were clamouring for the government to make coronavirus a "notifiable disease" so that they could claim on their insurance if they had to shut down. Now we're having would-be couples told that they can't claim on their insurance because the government had told their wedding venue to shut down... :roll:
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Postby New Bremerton » Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:46 am

Liriena wrote:conspiratorial innuendos


:rofl:

You guys keep proving me right over and over. Honestly, people like you and Vass can't be trusted to stand side by side with us in our struggle for freedom. So why don't you go right ahead and do you and I'll do me, because me and the Left are done. And I'm keeping custody of the kids, the whole house and everything in it. May the judge of history rule forever in my favor.




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Postby Juristonia » Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:58 am

New Bremerton wrote:
Liriena wrote:conspiratorial innuendos


:rofl:

You guys keep proving me right over and over. Honestly, people like you and Vass can't be trusted to stand side by side with us in our struggle for freedom. So why don't you go right ahead and do you and I'll do me, because me and the Left are done. And I'm keeping custody of the kids, the whole house and everything in it. May the judge of history rule forever in my favor.




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Liriena wrote:Say what you will about fascists: they are remarkably consistent even after several decades of failing spectacularly elsewhere.

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Cannot think of a name wrote:Anyway, I'm from gold country, we grow up knowing that when people jump up and down shouting "GOLD GOLD GOLD" the gold is gone and the only money to be made is in selling shovels.

And it seems to me that cryptocurrency and NFTs and such suddenly have a whooooole lot of shovel salespeople.

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Postby Vassenor » Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:59 am

New Bremerton wrote:
Liriena wrote:conspiratorial innuendos


:rofl:

You guys keep proving me right over and over. Honestly, people like you and Vass can't be trusted to stand side by side with us in our struggle for freedom. So why don't you go right ahead and do you and I'll do me, because me and the Left are done. And I'm keeping custody of the kids, the whole house and everything in it. May the judge of history rule forever in my favor.




I stand with Americans and Europeans in their struggle to contain the coronavirus and return to their lives of normalcy and economic prosperity. My heart goes out to them in these trying times. Stay strong and don't give up!


So you're fine with Trump continuing to provide China with more and more influence in the world?
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Postby New Bremerton » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:02 am

Vassenor wrote:
New Bremerton wrote:
:rofl:

You guys keep proving me right over and over. Honestly, people like you and Vass can't be trusted to stand side by side with us in our struggle for freedom. So why don't you go right ahead and do you and I'll do me, because me and the Left are done. And I'm keeping custody of the kids, the whole house and everything in it. May the judge of history rule forever in my favor.




I stand with Americans and Europeans in their struggle to contain the coronavirus and return to their lives of normalcy and economic prosperity. My heart goes out to them in these trying times. Stay strong and don't give up!


So you're fine with Trump continuing to provide China with more and more influence in the world?


Strawmen gonna strawman.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:03 am

New Bremerton wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So you're fine with Trump continuing to provide China with more and more influence in the world?


Strawmen gonna strawman.


How is it a strawman to point out that Trump pulling the US out of international bodies and thus leaving it unable to be a moderating voice to China's wants is giving China more influence?
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:06 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Duvniask wrote:How is that anything approaching "harassment"?


It's not. Nothing about moderation on NSG makes sense, it's esoteric as hell.


Very diplomatic of you.

I'm also glad to see more doubt being cast on the official Chinese numbers. A couple hundred thousand cases sounds much more fitting.


Where's 200,000 come from?
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Postby New Bremerton » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:06 am

Vassenor wrote:
New Bremerton wrote:
Strawmen gonna strawman.


How is it a strawman to point out that Trump pulling the US out of international bodies and thus leaving it unable to be a moderating voice to China's wants is giving China more influence?


When was America ever a moderating influence in the UN and the WHO? And when did I say anything about America "pulling out"? If the WHO is already China-centric, withdrawing funding isn't going to make it any more so.
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Postby Juristonia » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:09 am

New Bremerton wrote:When was America ever a moderating influence in the UN and the WHO?

As largest contributor, literally always. As non-contributor, never again.

New Bremerton wrote:And when did I say anything about America "pulling out"?

I mean, that's literally a thing that happened.

New Bremerton wrote:If the WHO is already China-centric, withdrawing funding isn't going to make it any more so.

You still have yet to demonstrate that the WHO is fundamentally China-centric. And no, questionably poor handling of one situation does not make it definitively so.
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Liriena wrote:Say what you will about fascists: they are remarkably consistent even after several decades of failing spectacularly elsewhere.

Ifreann wrote:Indeed, as far as I can recall only one poster has ever supported legalising bestiality, and he was fucking his cat and isn't welcome here any more, in no small part, I imagine, because he kept going on about how he was fucking his cat.

Cannot think of a name wrote:Anyway, I'm from gold country, we grow up knowing that when people jump up and down shouting "GOLD GOLD GOLD" the gold is gone and the only money to be made is in selling shovels.

And it seems to me that cryptocurrency and NFTs and such suddenly have a whooooole lot of shovel salespeople.

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Postby Duvniask » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:10 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Duvniask wrote:How is that anything approaching "harassment"?


It's not. Nothing about moderation on NSG makes sense, it's esoteric as hell.

Next thing you know, calling someone wrong will incur the wrath of moderation.

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Postby -Astoria- » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:11 am

Juristonia wrote:You still have yet to demonstrate that the WHO is fundamentally China-centric. And no, questionably poor handling of one situation does not make it definitively so.

This.

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:11 am

Vassenor wrote:
New Bremerton wrote:
Strawmen gonna strawman.


How is it a strawman to point out that Trump pulling the US out of international bodies and thus leaving it unable to be a moderating voice to China's wants is giving China more influence?


Look, I'd agree with that, but I have to qualify that China's influence hasn't increased that much. Direct funding from member nations is only a fraction of the WHO's funding.

This time China had great influence on the WHO's knowledge and advice because the disease started in China. The WHO doesn't cast a very critical eye over information from any country (perhaps they should, perhaps they will in future) and is pretty much wide open to being lied to.
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Postby Zapato » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:39 am

So Trump will send up the Thunderbirds and the Blue Angels to celebrate front line workers...

...how much will that cost, and couldn't that money be spent more wisely?


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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:39 am

Did trump just receive a covid-19 ban for misinformation?
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Postby The Grims » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:54 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Did trump just receive a covid-19 ban for misinformation?


I believe he is gargling with bleach, since someone on Fox News said that got rid of Covid 1 till 18.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:57 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Imagine being one of the experts who has to smile and nod on stage with Trump as he suggests injecting disinfectant might be a good treatment to look into.

Man is genuinely fucking stupid.

Im astounded he is able to function at all.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:05 am

Juristonia wrote:
New Bremerton wrote:When was America ever a moderating influence in the UN and the WHO?

As largest contributor, literally always. As non-contributor, never again.


"Never again" assumes that Trump extends his ban on funding, and actually that he gets re-elected.

Also, I'm aware that of direct national contributors, the US was the largest. But it shouldn't be assumed that it had 40% of the influence (that being the percentage of assessed funding) because WHO's budget is actually much bigger. $5 billion. US contributions last year were $100 million.

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:08 am

Zapato wrote:So Trump will send up the Thunderbirds and the Blue Angels to celebrate front line workers...

...how much will that cost, and couldn't that money be spent more wisely?


I find that pretty harmless. Bit of nationalist cheer. And as to where the money will come from haven't you heard?

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:11 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Imagine being one of the experts who has to smile and nod on stage with Trump as he suggests injecting disinfectant might be a good treatment to look into.

Man is genuinely fucking stupid.

Im astounded he is able to function at all.

Generally he knows what to do. Regarding injecting yourself with disinfectant and putting a UV light inside you to kill off the virus though, dumb.
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Postby Lost Memories » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:13 am

New Bremerton wrote:
Diahon wrote:so apparently the viets are easing their social distancing with 268 total cases of this virus

and 0 dead

i need a viet to explain shit to me


Most Southeast Asian countries with the exception of Singapore, Indonesia and the Philippines are actually doing very well. Brunei managed to flatten its curve very rapidly. Thailand has managed to flatten theirs. Malaysia's taking a little longer, but we're getting there.

Thailand should be second place behind china, chronolocgically, as most lying nation about infection numbers.

Thailand was the first nation to be infected outside china, as early as the 18th of january (if i remember right) 13 January, and once they reached 30 reported cases, the reporting was nationalized, and the reporting of new cases stopped entirely for more than one month.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:31 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Imagine being one of the experts who has to smile and nod on stage with Trump as he suggests injecting disinfectant might be a good treatment to look into.

Man is genuinely fucking stupid.

Im astounded he is able to function at all.


How about we apply a Biblical standard to stuff he says. It's provably wrong, so it must be a parable ...

When he says disinfectant, maybe he means sunlight. Or fresh mountain air?
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Postby Nakena » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:32 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Man is genuinely fucking stupid.

Im astounded he is able to function at all.


How about we apply a Biblical standard to stuff he says. It's provably wrong, so it must be a parable ...

When he says disinfectant, maybe he means sunlight. Or fresh mountain air?


I am sure those kinds of interpretations are trending amongst his followers.

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Postby Albrenia » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:35 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Man is genuinely fucking stupid.

Im astounded he is able to function at all.

Generally he knows what to do. Regarding injecting yourself with disinfectant and putting a UV light inside you to kill off the virus though, dumb.


It's not really exceptional for him to say something monumentally stupid though. Hell, he even once said that people should have their guns taken from them until they can prove they should have them until the NRA booped his nose and told him guns are good.

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Postby Lost Memories » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:35 am

New Bremerton wrote:This sudden tiptoeing around China and the WHO because "muh racist conspiracy theories" is just the latest addition to the Left's growing list of unforgivable betrayals of some of the very peoples they once regarded as victims of social and political injustice.

That's what outrage culture does, it lacks any long term coherence, and it sees people as just outrage vectors, and not as, people.

It's naive to think otherwise, but it would be nice if at least during a pandemic the politicizing could take a trip day away.
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