Coronavirus Thread III: The Show Must Not Go On (READ OP)

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

What confuses me is why people ardently in support of shelter in place orders are completely against some checkpoints to help enforce them. Texas has already placed checkpoints with Louisiana apparently.

Because different places have different peak times and different levels of risk, dividing into the country into zones, allowing some restrictions to be lifted some places sooner would be a good idea. But to make it work you would have to restrict non essential travel between zones.

It is that simple really.

Arkansas has banned out of state people from staying at parks and hotels, unless they're essential workers and those essential works are very detailed. We are also checking IDs to make sure we don't have people coming into the state from hot spots in other states. It's an unpleasant rule but under the circumstances, perfectly understandable.

[Ifreann]

To the best of my knowledge that is not a crime.

Kinda is in the UK now.

Then best of luck to your police and prisons with becoming covid 19 hotspots.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

People still need to obtain groceries.

Feed them on MREs. Really crank up the pressure.

Then either the US Army or the Ohio Army National Guard better get up off their asses and come bring me some then.

[Novus America]

How about a manhunt for anyone not staying the hell at home?

People still need to obtain groceries.

Of course. That was already addressed. Although non essential travel between zones would be stopped food and other truck deliveries would continue via swapping trailers at the check points.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Oh, I only wanted to confirm with a Dutch poster that this is legit news. Thanks.

It is. Erasmus is a university hospital, and the main hospital for the city of Rotterdam; and his find is probably legit.
Practical application however, if there is, will however take quite a while.

Absolutely. The development of medication and vaccines will take time. It's just that along with legit findings, I've come across several bogus news so I wanted to corroborate. Thanks again for letting me know it's legit.

[Vetalia]

It is. Erasmus is a university hospital, and the main hospital for the city of Rotterdam; and his find is probably legit.
Practical application however, if there is, will however take quite a while.

Absolutely. The development of medication and vaccines will take time. It's just that along with legit findings, I've come across several bogus news so I wanted to corroborate. Thanks again for letting me know it's legit.

IIRC there's something like 30 or 40 different treatments and vaccine candidates in the pipeline right now. Several treatments are well advanced in clinical trials, too.

[Fartsniffage]

Kinda is in the UK now.

Then best of luck to your police and prisons with becoming covid 19 hotspots.

It's not ideal, no. But you have to be a proper dick about it to get arrested an put in front of a magistrate. It's mostly warnings and on the spot fines.

[Novus America]

What confuses me is why people ardently in support of shelter in place orders are completely against some checkpoints to help enforce them. Texas has already placed checkpoints with Louisiana apparently.

Because different places have different peak times and different levels of risk, dividing into the country into zones, allowing some restrictions to be lifted some places sooner would be a good idea. But to make it work you would have to restrict non essential travel between zones.

It is that simple really.

Arkansas has banned out of state people from staying at parks and hotels, unless they're essential workers and those essential works are very detailed. We are also checking IDs to make sure we don't have people coming into the state from hot spots in other states. It's an unpleasant rule but under the circumstances, perfectly understandable.

That is what I am saying. I know check points on some major roads are not pleasant but they can be a valid response in these sort of situations, to slow the spread.

[Tinhampton]

So BoJo's been tested but his love interest hasn't...

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

The LA Riots: The Insurrection Act was used to send federal troops into the city.
The Draft Riots: A rebellion and literal civil war was occurring.

There's a stark difference between quarantining a city during a pandemic and locking one down during a time of active rebellion or insurrection.

It’s really not. But hey if you want people to die their blood will be on your hands

It actually wouldn't be since I'm not and have never advocated for people breaking self-isolation and quarantine and roam around willy nilly during this whole thing.

[Thermodolia]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riots

Further in the article it states all this happened

After the mayor signed the curfew order.

The troops were there at Californias request. They were not imposed by the federal goverment on california. There is a tremendous difference.

The governor of New York has asked the US government to do more. Imposing a metro wide quarantine would help. Again the US military would only be used to man the checkpoints. Actual enforcement would belong to local law enforcement

[The Alma Mater]

Feed them on MREs. Really crank up the pressure.

What is that? You’d have me arrested for going on a hike yesterday?

Well, in some countries you'd be shot for that.
In others you would need to present a written statement explaining the reason for your hike, and how it is on the list of allowed reasons to be outside to prevent arrest and a fine.

So.. there is international precedent for that.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Absolutely. The development of medication and vaccines will take time. It's just that along with legit findings, I've come across several bogus news so I wanted to corroborate. Thanks again for letting me know it's legit.

IIRC there's something like 30 or 40 different treatments and vaccine candidates in the pipeline right now. Several treatments are well advanced in clinical trials, too.

The speed at which those have developed is outstanding.

[Thermodolia]

People still need to obtain groceries.

Feed them on MREs. Really crank up the pressure.

Do you want to clog up the toilets?

[San Lumen]

Then best of luck to your police and prisons with becoming covid 19 hotspots.

It's not ideal, no. But you have to be a proper dick about it to get arrested an put in front of a magistrate. It's mostly warnings and on the spot fines.

What is an MRE? Since you want a manhunt for anyone who leaves their apartment or house to walk the dog or leaves at all you therefore would have me arrested for going on a hike yesterday?

[Fartsniffage]

It's not ideal, no. But you have to be a proper dick about it to get arrested an put in front of a magistrate. It's mostly warnings and on the spot fines.

What is an MRE? Since you want a manhunt for anyone who leaves their apartment or house to walk the dog or leaves at all you therefore would have me arrested for going on a hike yesterday?

Meal Ready to Eat. Army rations.

[Pyrghium]

What confuses me is why people ardently in support of shelter in place orders are completely against some checkpoints to help enforce them. Texas has already placed checkpoints with Louisiana apparently.

Because different places have different peak times and different levels of risk, dividing into the country into zones, allowing some restrictions to be lifted some places sooner would be a good idea. But to make it work you would have to restrict non essential travel between zones.

It is that simple really.

The problem, however, is not just the quarantine measures. There’s also the economic collateral damage from all this, which is going to wipe out people’s livelihoods and savings. People are going to lose a lot; and the Government frantically injecting cash into the System, and printing currency up the wazoo is not going to help anybody. I’m much more concerned about the unrest from the economic downturn, and the political, social, and economic ramifications from that, than I am about the quarantine or the virus itself.

The Elites are looking out for themselves and their fat cat cronies on Wall Street: the multinational corporations, big banks, and all the other “Too Big to Fails”; handing bailouts like loot bags at a 5 year old’s birthday party; while telling the average Joe there’s just not enough money to help out him and his family, and he can only expect to receive a couple of months worth of Government cheques. This is going to enrage people; and if it persists long enough, with no solution or no distraction there will be blood in the streets and politicians hanging from lampposts. To prevent this unsavoury ending, our Rulers will doubtless seek to engineer some foreign adventure or other catastrophe, so as to take our attention off our economic woes and the corruption and ineffectivity of the System. That’s where things get really dangerous, and where Major Wars tend to be fought. I think the next few years are going to be quite the bumpy ride.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

It's not ideal, no. But you have to be a proper dick about it to get arrested an put in front of a magistrate. It's mostly warnings and on the spot fines.

What is an MRE?

The Meal, Ready-to-Eat – commonly known as the MRE – is a self-contained, individual field ration in lightweight packaging bought by the United States Department of Defense for its service members for use in combat or other field conditions where organized food facilities are not available. While MREs should be kept cool, they do not need to be refrigerated. MREs replaced the canned MCI, or Meal, Combat, Individual rations, in 1981,[1] and is the intended successor to the lighter LRP ration developed by the United States Army for Special Forces and Ranger patrol units in Vietnam. MREs have also been distributed to civilians during natural disasters.

[Thermodolia]

It’s really not. But hey if you want people to die their blood will be on your hands

It actually wouldn't be since I'm not and have never advocated for people breaking self-isolation and quarantine and roam around willy nilly during this whole thing.

Then you shouldn’t have anything wrong with temporary checkpoints

[San Lumen]

What is an MRE? Since you want a manhunt for anyone who leaves their apartment or house to walk the dog or leaves at all you therefore would have me arrested for going on a hike yesterday?

Meal Ready to Eat. Army rations.

So therefore walking the dog would mean your arrest and if be arrested for hiking a hill?

[San Lumen]

What is that? You’d have me arrested for going on a hike yesterday?

Well, in some countries you'd be shot for that.
In others you would need to present a written statement explaining the reason for your hike, and how it is on the list of allowed reasons to be outside to prevent arrest and a fine.

So.. there is international precedent for that.

How about no

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Feed them on MREs. Really crank up the pressure.

Do you want to clog up the toilets?

I'd honestly still be interested in trying some. Back when I had some money I considered buying a bunch off Amazon or something for a time like this but ultimately decided against it.

[Gormwood]

So, tigers can get the virus, cops in India wear corona-shaped helmets to promote awareness and Trump is going bankrupt.

Is that all the new news ?

One of these things is not like the others.

[Novus America]

It's not ideal, no. But you have to be a proper dick about it to get arrested an put in front of a magistrate. It's mostly warnings and on the spot fines.

What is an MRE? Since you want a manhunt for anyone who leaves their apartment or house to walk the dog or leaves at all you therefore would have me arrested for going on a hike yesterday?

An MRE is a Meal, Ready-to-Eat.
A military ration.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meal,_Ready-to-Eat

But again that would not be necessary as trailers could be swapped at the zone borders. Commercial semi trucks have interchangeable detachable trailers that can be dropped and picked up by another tractor in just a few minutes.

And I doubt your hike took you outside the NYC area.

As we discussed before it is best to lift some restrictions, some places, as soon as we can.
But this would require travel restrictions between high and low risk areas.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Meal Ready to Eat. Army rations.

So therefore walking the dog would mean your arrest and if be arrested for hiking a hill?

There are places that are doing this. If yours isn't and you are able to maintain proper social distancing in your hikes (we walk every evening after everyone's indoors), you shouldn't have a problem. Now, if your area institutes stringent measures like I know PR has done (Sundays it's stay in or you'll be fined/arrested if you don't), then yes, you could be arrested.