Coronavirus Thread III: The Show Must Not Go On (READ OP)

[Ethel mermania]

Kinda does. The government doesn't get to do stuff without some law giving them the power to do stuff. It's the opposite of how people have rights and can do whatever they want unless some law prohibits them from doing it.

We haven’t operated in that way for decades. Hell FDR used laws for different purposes and established precedent to remove the Japanese to the interment camps

Which was eventually overturned.

And seriously acts during wartime really dont illustrate the point.

[The Alma Mater]

So, tigers can get the virus, cops in India wear corona-shaped helmets to promote awareness and Trump is going bankrupt.

Is that all the new news ?

[Thermodolia]

There’s nothing to say that the federal government can’t quarantine Metro areas, which would be NYC plus extra.

There's nothing to say that the federal government can't launch you into the Sun for farting in an elevator.

There really isn’t

Besides there’s already precedent

Manhunts and quarantines aren't the same thing.

The basics are the same

[Ifreann]

They didn’t close down all roads in or out. Show the receipts

They did send federal troops to disperse dumb assholes.

So what is really the difference.

The difference is that a disease outbreak is not an insurrection. Duh.

[San Lumen]

There's nothing to say that the federal government can't launch you into the Sun for farting in an elevator.

There really isn’t

Manhunts and quarantines aren't the same thing.

The basics are the same

Not really. An insurrection and a manhunt are completely different things

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

What precedent? When has the federal government ever sealed off a city?

LA during the riots. NYC during the Civil war during riots. Several occasions actually

The LA Riots: The Insurrection Act was used to send federal troops into the city.
The Draft Riots: A rebellion and literal civil war was occurring.

There's a stark difference between quarantining a city during a pandemic and locking one down during a time of active rebellion or insurrection.

[Ifreann]

There's nothing to say that the federal government can't launch you into the Sun for farting in an elevator.

There really isn’t

And do you therefore think that they could legally do such a thing?

Manhunts and quarantines aren't the same thing.

The basics are the same

Really aren't.

[Novus America]

We are in new territory. Besides there’s already precedent to shutdown entire metros

Epidemics have happened since time immemorial.

And travel restrictions have been used for millennia in controlling them.
Anyway I thought you supported shelter in place orders anyways? Why are you against enforcing them on some bridges?

[Thermodolia]

LA during the riots. NYC during the Civil war during riots. Several occasions actually

Source that LA every came under federal Marshal law, the national guard deploying at rhe governors request does not count.

A dusk-to-dawn curfew and deployment by California Army National Guardsmen, Federal troops, and Federal law enforcement personnel eventually controlled the situation.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riots

[The Alma Mater]

Any Dutch posters around? I found a claim that Erasmus MC has found an antibody for the virus.

Source.

What do you wish to know about it ? As they say, it might lead to a cure in a few months or longer; but it needs to be tested and peer reviewed and will be more expensive than a vaccine...

[Ethel mermania]

They didn’t close down all roads in or out. Show the receipts

They did send federal troops to disperse dumb assholes.

So what is really the difference.

At the governors request.

[Thermodolia]

We are in new territory. Besides there’s already precedent to shutdown entire metros

Epidemics have happened since time immemorial.

That doesn’t mean that we do jackshit

[Fartsniffage]

There’s nothing to say that the federal government can’t quarantine Metro areas, which would be NYC plus extra.

There's nothing to say that the federal government can't launch you into the Sun for farting in an elevator.

Besides there’s already precedent

Manhunts and quarantines aren't the same thing.

How about a manhunt for anyone not staying the hell at home?

[San Lumen]

Epidemics have happened since time immemorial.

That doesn’t mean that we do jackshit

And no one is saying that

[Ethel mermania]

Source that LA every came under federal Marshal law, the national guard deploying at rhe governors request does not count.

A dusk-to-dawn curfew and deployment by California Army National Guardsmen, Federal troops, and Federal law enforcement personnel eventually controlled the situation.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riots

Further in the article it states all this happened

After the mayor signed the curfew order.

The troops were there at Californias request. They were not imposed by the federal goverment on california. There is a tremendous difference.

[Novus America]

What confuses me is why people ardently in support of shelter in place orders are completely against some checkpoints to help enforce them. Texas has already placed checkpoints with Louisiana apparently.

Because different places have different peak times and different levels of risk, dividing into the country into zones, allowing some restrictions to be lifted some places sooner would be a good idea. But to make it work you would have to restrict non essential travel between zones.

It is that simple really.

[Novus America]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riots

Further in the article it states all this happened

After the mayor signed the curfew order.

The troops were there at Californias request. They were not imposed by the federal goverment on california. There is a tremendous difference.

Well to make this work well state cooperation should be sought.

Such a system, if fairly and objectively established would probably be supported by most.

[Ifreann]

Epidemics have happened since time immemorial.

That doesn’t mean that we do jackshit

But it does mean that we are not in new territory. There have been disease outbreaks in the US before.

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There's nothing to say that the federal government can't launch you into the Sun for farting in an elevator.


Manhunts and quarantines aren't the same thing.

How about a manhunt for anyone not staying the hell at home?

To the best of my knowledge that is not a crime.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Any Dutch posters around? I found a claim that Erasmus MC has found an antibody for the virus.

Source.

What do you wish to know about it ? As they say, it might lead to a cure in a few months or longer; but it needs to be tested and peer reviewed and will be more expensive than a vaccine...

Oh, I only wanted to confirm with a Dutch poster that this is legit news. Thanks.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

There's nothing to say that the federal government can't launch you into the Sun for farting in an elevator.


Manhunts and quarantines aren't the same thing.

How about a manhunt for anyone not staying the hell at home?

People still need to obtain groceries.

[Fartsniffage]

To the best of my knowledge that is not a crime.

Kinda is in the UK now.

[Fartsniffage]

How about a manhunt for anyone not staying the hell at home?

People still need to obtain groceries.

Feed them on MREs. Really crank up the pressure.

[The Alma Mater]

What do you wish to know about it ? As they say, it might lead to a cure in a few months or longer; but it needs to be tested and peer reviewed and will be more expensive than a vaccine...

Oh, I only wanted to confirm with a Dutch poster that this is legit news. Thanks.

It is. Erasmus is a university hospital, and the main hospital for the city of Rotterdam; and his find is probably legit.
Practical application however, if there is, will however take quite a while.

[San Lumen]

People still need to obtain groceries.

Feed them on MREs. Really crank up the pressure.

What is that? You’d have me arrested for going on a hike yesterday?

[Thermodolia]

LA during the riots. NYC during the Civil war during riots. Several occasions actually

The LA Riots: The Insurrection Act was used to send federal troops into the city.
The Draft Riots: A rebellion and literal civil war was occurring.

There's a stark difference between quarantining a city during a pandemic and locking one down during a time of active rebellion or insurrection.

It’s really not. But hey if you want people to die their blood will be on your hands