Coronavirus Thread III: The Show Must Not Go On (READ OP)

[Nobel Hobos 2]

I’m not sure where the sexist assumption comes in or what data it’s based on- the country with the highest death rate per capita is actually Belgium, which has a female PM (665 per m).

Real clear politics has a breakdown by country, but I’d have to go through one by one to see who has male/female leaders, other than ones I know like France, U.K., and us.

Also Montserrat is listed as a country, and it most definitely is not, along with having the population of a slightly overbooked cruise ship.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/coronavirus/

Belgiums numbers are complete bollocks since they're doing this weird thing where they're counting all deaths as covid deaths on the rational that if it wasn't for the disease then people would be getting better healthcare and more would have survived.

Hence the extreme deaths per million.

Interesting. They're going to work it out later?

[Nobel Hobos 2]

So it turns out that, going by the official numbers, this outbreak hasn't been the great leveller people think it was, with the most deprived areas of the UK having more than double the deaths per 100K than the least deprived.

Also Boris bloody Johnson didn't die, there's no justice.

Also: the very first comment: "People in deprived areas are not as healthy shocker."

[Vassenor]

Coronavirus: Black African deaths three times higher than white Britons - study

Seems like there's a variety of economic reasons for this, on top of other factors.

[Australian rePublic]

So it turns out that, going by the official numbers, this outbreak hasn't been the great leveller people think it was, with the most deprived areas of the UK having more than double the deaths per 100K than the least deprived.

Also Boris bloody Johnson didn't die, there's no justice.

Also: the very first comment: "People in deprived areas are not as healthy shocker."

Holy crap! That's horrifying. Do people actually have those kinds of attitudes?

[Fartsniffage]

Also Boris bloody Johnson didn't die, there's no justice.

Also: the very first comment: "People in deprived areas are not as healthy shocker."

Holy crap! That's horrifying. Do people actually have those kinds of attitudes?

The attitude that poor people are usually less healthy than wealthy people?

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Also Boris bloody Johnson didn't die, there's no justice.

Also: the very first comment: "People in deprived areas are not as healthy shocker."

Holy crap! That's horrifying. Do people actually have those kinds of attitudes?

The point is that people in deprived areas have worse health before catching covid-19.

The comment is actually insightful. But it's possible there is also less capacity of hospitals or lower quality of care there.

[Australian rePublic]

Holy crap! That's horrifying. Do people actually have those kinds of attitudes?

The point is that people in deprived areas have worse health before catching covid-19.

The comment is actually insightful. But it's possible there is also less capacity of hospitals or lower quality of care there.

Fair enough, but I was mostly referring to the Bojo comment

[Albrenia]

Boris Johnson is quite unpopular for many. I'm glad he survived though, as I hope he'll see the NHS in a more human light after it saved his goddamn life.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Coronavirus: Black African deaths three times higher than white Britons - study

Seems like there's a variety of economic reasons for this, on top of other factors.

I read half way into the article before I realized it's not the mortality rate of BAME people infected, it's just mortality rate from the general population.

BAME people are more likely to get infected in the first place. That should be quantified before considering anything else.

[Australian rePublic]

Boris Johnson is quite unpopular for many. I'm glad he survived though, as I hope he'll see the NHS in a more human light after it saved his goddamn life.

i get that he's unpopular, but advocating for his death? As much as Australia has had her share of terrible prime ministers, but I wouldn't any of them to die

[Albrenia]

Boris Johnson is quite unpopular for many. I'm glad he survived though, as I hope he'll see the NHS in a more human light after it saved his goddamn life.

i get that he's unpopular, but advocating for his death? As much as Australia has had her share of terrible prime ministers, but I wouldn't any of them to die

Aye, I agree there.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

The point is that people in deprived areas have worse health before catching covid-19.

The comment is actually insightful. But it's possible there is also less capacity of hospitals or lower quality of care there.

Fair enough, but I was mostly referring to the Bojo comment

It was a joke. And I'm not going to apologize considering he did survive the virus. There's no way you can spin that as wishing death on someone.

[Australian rePublic]

Fair enough, but I was mostly referring to the Bojo comment

It was a joke. And I'm not going to apologize considering he did survive the virus. There's no way you can spin that as wishing death on someone.

You posted that as a joke? That's different then...

[Fartsniffage]

Boris Johnson is quite unpopular for many. I'm glad he survived though, as I hope he'll see the NHS in a more human light after it saved his goddamn life.

i get that he's unpopular, but advocating for his death? As much as Australia has had her share of terrible prime ministers, but I wouldn't any of them to die

What about the one who drowned then had a swimming pool named after him? I mean, it's sad he died but at least we all got a funny story out of it...

[Australian rePublic]

i get that he's unpopular, but advocating for his death? As much as Australia has had her share of terrible prime ministers, but I wouldn't any of them to die

What about the one who drowned then had a swimming pool named after him? I mean, it's sad he died but at least we all got a funny story out of it...

They named a swimming after Harold Holt? That's such an Australian thing to do. He's probably sitting in his singlet, shorts and thongs in the afterlife, drinking a VB and thinking "Hahahaha! Good one!"

[Nobel Hobos 2]

i get that he's unpopular, but advocating for his death? As much as Australia has had her share of terrible prime ministers, but I wouldn't any of them to die

What about the one who drowned then had a swimming pool named after him? I mean, it's sad he died but at least we all got a funny story out of it...

We don't know for sure that he drowned! The body was never found.

But if anything, that makes naming a swimming pool after him even creepier. Don't swim here, you might disappear!

[Vassenor]

Coronavirus: Black African deaths three times higher than white Britons - study

Seems like there's a variety of economic reasons for this, on top of other factors.

I read half way into the article before I realized it's not the mortality rate of BAME people infected, it's just mortality rate from the general population.

BAME people are more likely to get infected in the first place. That should be quantified before considering anything else.

Which is what I was getting at when I was going on about what it says about economic reasons.

[-Astoria]

What about the one who drowned then had a swimming pool named after him? I mean, it's sad he died but at least we all got a funny story out of it...

Was it Holt, by any chance?

[Australian rePublic]

What about the one who drowned then had a swimming pool named after him? I mean, it's sad he died but at least we all got a funny story out of it...

We don't know for sure that he drowned! The body was never found.

But if anything, that makes naming a swimming pool after him even creepier. Don't swim here, you might disappear!

Harold Holt memorial pool. I honestly can't tell if they liked him so much that they want to honour him, or they hate him so much that they want to mock him

[Zapato]

Belgiums numbers are complete bollocks since they're doing this weird thing where they're counting all deaths as covid deaths on the rational that if it wasn't for the disease then people would be getting better healthcare and more would have survived.

Hence the extreme deaths per million.

Interesting. They're going to work it out later?

I'm sure it's going to be the first thing they'll do after forming a new permanent government after toppling the current minority government after the pandemic has passed. So maybe in 2025 or thereabout...

[Nobel Hobos 2]

I read half way into the article before I realized it's not the mortality rate of BAME people infected, it's just mortality rate from the general population.

BAME people are more likely to get infected in the first place. That should be quantified before considering anything else.

Which is what I was getting at when I was going on about what it says about economic reasons.

There's an argument for "relieving" everyone who has kept working a dangerous service job (taxi driver was mentioned), and replacing them with the people who have had the virus and recovered. I guess there aren't enough of the latter, and there's a retraining time, but you do have significant numbers of recovered now. Perhaps replace the most vulnerable of those in dangerous low-skilled professions?

Of course it means taking someone's job off them, they will object even if it's to save their own life. But they'd get full pay to sit at home and they could use the time to start an online course or work up their own small business.

I said nothing about race. I'm funny that way.

[Albrenia]

We don't know for sure that he drowned! The body was never found.

But if anything, that makes naming a swimming pool after him even creepier. Don't swim here, you might disappear!

Harold Holt memorial pool. I honestly can't tell if they liked him so much that they want to honour him, or they hate him so much that they want to mock him

Indeed. I choose to believe they wanted to honour him, because it is funnier to me that they goofed in such a spectacular fashion, then if it was simply a straight attempt at mockery.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

I’m not sure where the sexist assumption comes in or what data it’s based on- the country with the highest death rate per capita is actually Belgium, which has a female PM (665 per m).

Real clear politics has a breakdown by country, but I’d have to go through one by one to see who has male/female leaders, other than ones I know like France, U.K., and us.

Also Montserrat is listed as a country, and it most definitely is not, along with having the population of a slightly overbooked cruise ship.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/coronavirus/

Belgiums numbers are complete bollocks since they're doing this weird thing where they're counting all deaths as covid deaths on the rational that if it wasn't for the disease then people would be getting better healthcare and more would have survived.

Hence the extreme deaths per million.

I don't think that's really what they're doing. The spreadsheet on this Belgian government website shows about 300 deaths a day in April 2018. Daily covid deaths on Worldometer did go above that three times but are usually well below it.

Not that you're completely wrong. It's probably all deaths in hospital that are being counted as covid-19 deaths.

If Belgium is taking a sample everytime someone dies, and freezing it for covid testing later, I really respect that. Tests are valuable and they shouldn't be wasted on people who are already dead.

[Fartsniffage]

Belgiums numbers are complete bollocks since they're doing this weird thing where they're counting all deaths as covid deaths on the rational that if it wasn't for the disease then people would be getting better healthcare and more would have survived.

Hence the extreme deaths per million.

I don't think that's really what they're doing. The spreadsheet on this Belgian government website shows about 300 deaths a day in April 2018. Daily covid deaths on Worldometer did go above that three times but are usually well below it.

Not that you're completely wrong. It's probably all deaths in hospital that are being counted as covid-19 deaths.

If Belgium is taking a sample everytime someone dies, and freezing it for covid testing later, I really respect that. Tests are valuable and they shouldn't be wasted on people who are already dead.

I was being simplistic. They're counting all tested hospital deaths and all nursing home deaths whether tested or not as Covid deaths.

It leads to an artificially high and simply wrong number.

[Australian rePublic]

https://amp.abc.net.au/article/12202502

Victoria's cheif medical officer has compared Covid-19 to Captain Cook. She said that both an "invader from another land, decemating populations and creating terror". She also said that both Cook and Covid caused people to make significant sacrafices and change how they live. What exactly does she hope to achieve from this post? Cook died a quarter of a millenium ago? What exactly does she want us to? Build a time machine and blockade him? Unless she's just virtue signalling. And in that case, I'm glad that somebody whose job it is to protect us from the concurrent global appocoloypse is sitting bloody virtue signalling