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Postby Galloism » Sun May 03, 2020 10:22 am

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Okay then. So you think that at some point, we need to hold people accountable then, just not right now cause we're busy.


Oh there should be a review. Being busy (I am taking you mean the pandemic is in process versus it would be a bother) is part of the pandemic and I am concerned over the second wave which may happen. It could be nothing or like with Spanish Flu be really bad. Point is if we are going to seek punishment of China; let's hit them with what they cost everybody.

For this country; I think the "blame China" talk will be used to deflect rather then review and make needed changes.

I too think the Treaty of Versailles is a good model.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun May 03, 2020 10:22 am

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Again. Not talking about the other nations. Just this one and the administration using this to shift blame from their lack of response and misinformation.

Yeah. You go talk about that other thing and have fun - I’m going to talk about the original subject which was the virus origin/transmission theory.

Go what about to your heart’s content.


*shrugs* Ok. Go ahead and repeat China screwed up; everybody already knows that.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun May 03, 2020 10:23 am

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Okay then. So you think that at some point, we need to hold people accountable then, just not right now cause we're busy.


Oh there should be a review. Being busy (I am taking you mean the pandemic is in process versus it would be a bother) is part of the pandemic and I am concerned over the second wave which may happen. It could be nothing or like with Spanish Flu be really bad. Point is if we are going to seek punishment of China; let's hit them with what they cost everybody.

For this country; I think the "blame China" talk will be used to deflect rather then review and make needed changes.


As far as I'm concerned, supporting Trump at this point is just downright disgusting. One thing we can start doing as individuals imo is cutting out people who are pro Trump from our lives. They deserve to be treated as untouchables. It's like they have the mark of cain on them.
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Postby Galloism » Sun May 03, 2020 10:24 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Galloism wrote:Yeah. You go talk about that other thing and have fun - I’m going to talk about the original subject which was the virus origin/transmission theory.

Go what about to your heart’s content.


*shrugs* Ok. Go ahead and repeat China screwed up; everybody already knows that.

I wish they did.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun May 03, 2020 10:24 am

Galloism wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Oh there should be a review. Being busy (I am taking you mean the pandemic is in process versus it would be a bother) is part of the pandemic and I am concerned over the second wave which may happen. It could be nothing or like with Spanish Flu be really bad. Point is if we are going to seek punishment of China; let's hit them with what they cost everybody.

For this country; I think the "blame China" talk will be used to deflect rather then review and make needed changes.

I too think the Treaty of Versailles is a good model.


Ok? As asked before what do you think you will gain at this point?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun May 03, 2020 10:25 am

Galloism wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
*shrugs* Ok. Go ahead and repeat China screwed up; everybody already knows that.

I wish they did.


Ok? Who doesn't? I ask as I am curious.
*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Galloism » Sun May 03, 2020 10:26 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Galloism wrote:I too think the Treaty of Versailles is a good model.


Ok? As asked before what do you think you will gain at this point?

i was being funny in response to this:

Point is if we are going to seek punishment of China; let's hit them with what they cost everybody.


That’s the treaty of Versailles model.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun May 03, 2020 10:27 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Ifreann wrote:And immediately following that sentence you will see that The Black Forrest asserting that everyone does blame China. You see how that's relevant to your outrage about not blaming China?

Actually what I said is that I don't think that punishment is a useful thing to pursue.


Is that not the same thing as not holding peoplr accountable?

I can't tell you what you mean by "holding people accountable".
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun May 03, 2020 10:28 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Oh there should be a review. Being busy (I am taking you mean the pandemic is in process versus it would be a bother) is part of the pandemic and I am concerned over the second wave which may happen. It could be nothing or like with Spanish Flu be really bad. Point is if we are going to seek punishment of China; let's hit them with what they cost everybody.

For this country; I think the "blame China" talk will be used to deflect rather then review and make needed changes.


As far as I'm concerned, supporting Trump at this point is just downright disgusting. One thing we can start doing as individuals imo is cutting out people who are pro Trump from our lives. They deserve to be treated as untouchables. It's like they have the mark of cain on them.


Indeed. There are people like that in both camps.

As in another thread I mentioned we live in Bizarro times where you see the left defending the FBI and the right defending Russia.

Too much time spent trying to own the other rather then solve problems long term.
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Galloism » Sun May 03, 2020 10:29 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Galloism wrote:I wish they did.


Ok? Who doesn't? I ask as I am curious.

Bill Gates, for starters.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun May 03, 2020 10:30 am

Galloism wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Ok? As asked before what do you think you will gain at this point?

i was being funny in response to this:

Point is if we are going to seek punishment of China; let's hit them with what they cost everybody.


That’s the treaty of Versailles model.


Ohhhh. Sorry. Didn't make the connection. With certain individuals on this site; got a little too used to looking for the hidden meaning and or where it was going to go.....
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*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby San Lumen » Sun May 03, 2020 11:09 am


Forgive me I think that’s ridiculous. Are they going to monitor every church in the country and if they sing they are fined?
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Postby Galloism » Sun May 03, 2020 11:11 am

San Lumen wrote:

Forgive me I think that’s ridiculous. Are they going to monitor every church in the country and if they sing they are fined?

Maybe.
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The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby San Lumen » Sun May 03, 2020 11:12 am

Galloism wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Forgive me I think that’s ridiculous. Are they going to monitor every church in the country and if they sing they are fined?

Maybe.

That’s ridiculous.Clearly no country is going to adopt the Swedish model going forward and is just going to keep restricting people
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Postby Galloism » Sun May 03, 2020 11:18 am

San Lumen wrote:
Galloism wrote:Maybe.

That’s ridiculous.Clearly no country is going to adopt the Swedish model going forward and is just going to keep restricting people

Well, the Swedish model is killing a lot more people, so they might be reticent.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby Kowani » Sun May 03, 2020 11:18 am

San Lumen wrote:
Galloism wrote:Maybe.

That’s ridiculous.Clearly no country is going to adopt the Swedish model going forward and is just going to keep restricting people

Perhaps because it doesn’t work?
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sun May 03, 2020 11:22 am

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Forgive me I think that’s ridiculous. Are they going to monitor every church in the country and if they sing they are fined?


Germans are very reasonable people, they will gladly go back to church with restrictions. As many other people are going back to their jobs, with restrictions. Or going out in public to socialize, with restrictions.

It's your refusal to accept any restrictions which makes your position unsustainable.

When your time comes, and there's a job for you (with restrictions), I think you'll abandon your silly objections. It's a choice between normal life with restrictions, or being stuck in your house raging against restrictions. You won't be so silly as the way you talk here, I am sure.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun May 03, 2020 11:24 am

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San Lumen wrote:Forgive me I think that’s ridiculous. Are they going to monitor every church in the country and if they sing they are fined?


Germans are very reasonable people, they will gladly go back to church with restrictions. As many other people are going back to their jobs, with restrictions. Or going out in public to socialize, with restrictions.

It's your refusal to accept any restrictions which makes your position unsustainable.

When your time comes, and there's a job for you (with restrictions), I think you'll abandon your silly objections. It's a choice between normal life with restrictions, or being stuck in your house raging against restrictions. You won't be so silly as the way you talk here, I am sure.

And restrictions on restaurants for example of kept to long will put them out of business because they can’t make any money

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Postby Andsed » Sun May 03, 2020 11:27 am

San Lumen wrote:
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Germans are very reasonable people, they will gladly go back to church with restrictions. As many other people are going back to their jobs, with restrictions. Or going out in public to socialize, with restrictions.

It's your refusal to accept any restrictions which makes your position unsustainable.

When your time comes, and there's a job for you (with restrictions), I think you'll abandon your silly objections. It's a choice between normal life with restrictions, or being stuck in your house raging against restrictions. You won't be so silly as the way you talk here, I am sure.

And restrictions on restaurants for example of kept to long will put them out of business because they can’t make any money

Restrictions does not mean being unable to operate.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun May 03, 2020 11:28 am

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San Lumen wrote:And restrictions on restaurants for example of kept to long will put them out of business because they can’t make any money

Restrictions does not mean being unable to operate.

No it doesn’t but at 25 percent capacity they will not make enough money to pay their bills or staff

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Postby Andsed » Sun May 03, 2020 11:30 am

San Lumen wrote:
Andsed wrote:Restrictions does not mean being unable to operate.

No it doesn’t but at 25 percent capacity they will not make enough money to pay their bills or staff

Well then they can cut some wages and lay off some people. If we want to reopen restrictions are going to be needed for a time. No real way around that.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun May 03, 2020 11:33 am

Andsed wrote:
San Lumen wrote:No it doesn’t but at 25 percent capacity they will not make enough money to pay their bills or staff

Well then they can cut some wages and lay off some people. If we want to reopen restrictions are going to be needed for a time. No real way around that.

And that won’t give them enough money to pay their rent or buy supplies

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Postby Ifreann » Sun May 03, 2020 11:36 am

San Lumen wrote:
Andsed wrote:Well then they can cut some wages and lay off some people. If we want to reopen restrictions are going to be needed for a time. No real way around that.

And that won’t give them enough money to pay their rent or buy supplies

If they're only operating at 25% capacity then they only need ~25% of their usual stock.
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