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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:36 pm

Galloism wrote:
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Lmao that still makes no sense.

No, no it didn't.


Well the guy did touch a bunch of little boys........as he was rescuing them from a cave before they died.

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Postby -Ebola- » Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:36 pm

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Politico never implied anyone was celebrating. Holy fuck guys.

Nope, just that they should not be too quick to celebrate at the death of men.

Btw, in common parlance, that phrase is used to mean "I know that sounds good, but..."

This phrase:

that’s not exactly cause for celebration.


Is contextually used in a number of other contexts, notably, in 2012, regarding the economy:

An increase in the rate of economic expansion — estimated at nearly 3 percent in the final three months of last year — has given rise to the improvement. But that’s not exactly cause for celebration, as the U.S. unemployment rate remains relatively high at 8.3 percent as of last month (and that’s not counting those who have given up looking for work).


https://www.baltimoresun.com/opinion/bs ... story.html

IE, this is a good thing, but don't pop the cork just yet, even though it sounds like a positive thing on the surface.

That's what that phrase means.


Context. You're totally missing it.
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Postby Galloism » Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:37 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Galloism wrote:No, no it didn't.


Well the guy did touch a bunch of little boys........as he was rescuing them from a cave before they died.

Something something "rescue rape".
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Postby Galloism » Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:41 pm

-Ebola- wrote:Context. You're totally missing it.

No, I'm not. It starts out by saying there's only degrees of bad news, and btw the pandemic is worse for girls and women.

It then said that more men are dying than women, and implied this is a good thing, in fact, a cause for celebration, but don't celebrate just yet, because bad things are happening to women as a result of covid.

It then goes into healthcare stats (which aren't well supported, incidentally, if you follow the link - they don't actually figure out how many "essential workers" are men vs women, so no meaningful comparison can occur), and women wind up doing more chores and child education, then goes into talking about domestic violence as if it's only a thing that impacts women, and talks about unplanned pregnancies.

So that's all the bad news, and that bad news more than outweighs the good news regarding that it's the men who are disproportionately dying.

Just like the economics piece. There's good news that men are dying (and in 2012, that the economy was expanding), but there's still a lot of bad news out there that women are suffering from (and, in 2012, there was still a lot of unemployment). That's the context.
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Postby -Ebola- » Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:47 pm

Galloism wrote:
-Ebola- wrote:Context. You're totally missing it.

No, I'm not. It starts out by saying there's only degrees of bad news, and btw the pandemic is worse for girls and women.

It then said that more men are dying than women, and implied this is a good thing, in fact, a cause for celebration, but don't celebrate just yet, because bad things are happening to women as a result of covid.

It then goes into healthcare stats (which aren't well supported, incidentally, if you follow the link - they don't actually figure out how many "essential workers" are men vs women, so no meaningful comparison can occur), and women wind up doing more chores and child education, then goes into talking about domestic violence as if it's only a thing that impacts women, and talks about unplanned pregnancies.

So that's all the bad news, and that bad news more than outweighs the good news regarding that it's the men who are disproportionately dying.

Just like the economics piece. There's good news that men are dying (and in 2012, that the economy was expanding), but there's still a lot of bad news out there that women are suffering from (and, in 2012, there was still a lot of unemployment). That's the context.


There's no implication that it wouldn't be better if the virus went away and everyone stopped dying.
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Postby Diahon » Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:47 pm

tinfoil hat guys using the wayback machine to keep deleted content alive while evading mods and fact-checkers alike

so who's disappointed as all fuck that this shit is happening to what is a research tool? me? just me? that's fine

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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:50 pm

-Ebola- wrote:
Galloism wrote:No, I'm not. It starts out by saying there's only degrees of bad news, and btw the pandemic is worse for girls and women.

It then said that more men are dying than women, and implied this is a good thing, in fact, a cause for celebration, but don't celebrate just yet, because bad things are happening to women as a result of covid.

It then goes into healthcare stats (which aren't well supported, incidentally, if you follow the link - they don't actually figure out how many "essential workers" are men vs women, so no meaningful comparison can occur), and women wind up doing more chores and child education, then goes into talking about domestic violence as if it's only a thing that impacts women, and talks about unplanned pregnancies.

So that's all the bad news, and that bad news more than outweighs the good news regarding that it's the men who are disproportionately dying.

Just like the economics piece. There's good news that men are dying (and in 2012, that the economy was expanding), but there's still a lot of bad news out there that women are suffering from (and, in 2012, there was still a lot of unemployment). That's the context.


There's no implication that it wouldn't be better if the virus went away and everyone stopped dying.


It was either bad writing or actual hatred of men that went into that statement being in the article.

I've just been figuring it was bad writing and editing, but you can't defend what was written. It was shitty. I'm surprised you're trying.

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Postby Galloism » Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:53 pm

-Ebola- wrote:
Galloism wrote:No, I'm not. It starts out by saying there's only degrees of bad news, and btw the pandemic is worse for girls and women.

It then said that more men are dying than women, and implied this is a good thing, in fact, a cause for celebration, but don't celebrate just yet, because bad things are happening to women as a result of covid.

It then goes into healthcare stats (which aren't well supported, incidentally, if you follow the link - they don't actually figure out how many "essential workers" are men vs women, so no meaningful comparison can occur), and women wind up doing more chores and child education, then goes into talking about domestic violence as if it's only a thing that impacts women, and talks about unplanned pregnancies.

So that's all the bad news, and that bad news more than outweighs the good news regarding that it's the men who are disproportionately dying.

Just like the economics piece. There's good news that men are dying (and in 2012, that the economy was expanding), but there's still a lot of bad news out there that women are suffering from (and, in 2012, there was still a lot of unemployment). That's the context.


There's no implication that it wouldn't be better if the virus went away and everyone stopped dying.

Of course not. But, it's better for men to die than women, and in fact a cause for celebration that this is the case.

Because of the ideological shell game that has been placed on the public for many years (and possibly centuries), it's important to phase this in the appropriate correlative context.

Some numbers may be incorrect.

COVID’S WAR ON WHITE PEOPLE — During this plague year, there is almost never good news, only degrees of bad news. Even so, the pandemic has been different (and worse) for caucasians.

It’s true that more black people are dying than white people from Covid-19 around the world — but that’s not exactly cause for celebration.

Another ambivalent data point: More workplace risk is falling on white people, who are more likely to be considered essential workers. The upside to that is still having a job, but at what price? Sweden’s Foreign Minister Ann Linde pointed out today in a POLITICO interview that “70 percent of those working in health care and elderly care are white.”
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Postby -Ebola- » Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:54 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
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There's no implication that it wouldn't be better if the virus went away and everyone stopped dying.


It was either bad writing or actual hatred of men that went into that statement being in the article.

I've just been figuring it was bad writing and editing, but you can't defend what was written. It was shitty. I'm surprised you're trying.


I never said it was quality journalism. It's stupid filler because they ran out of real news.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:57 pm

-Ebola- wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
It was either bad writing or actual hatred of men that went into that statement being in the article.

I've just been figuring it was bad writing and editing, but you can't defend what was written. It was shitty. I'm surprised you're trying.


I never said it was quality journalism. It's stupid filler because they ran out of real news.


It's stupid filler that said something that should be called out as shitty.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:00 pm

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San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/495315-trump-administration-pushing-for-accelerated-vaccine-development

Trump launches Operation Warp Speed in hopes to get a vaccine widely available by the winter.

Gee, FDA gonna lower its standards?

They are doing that already, normally no vaccine gets tested in less than 3 years.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:48 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Gee, FDA gonna lower its standards?

They are doing that already, normally no vaccine gets tested in less than 3 years.

In my view they have too. We cannot keep this up long term but we have discussed this

https://abc7ny.com/health/connecticut-p ... 0/6140789/

Connecticut Governor Ned Lamont has announced the state reopening will begin May 20th but a full reopening could take up to ten months.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:52 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Gee, FDA gonna lower its standards?

They are doing that already, normally no vaccine gets tested in less than 3 years.


Indeed. I think the Trump family should be the first to take this vaccine. Flowed by the Pence family, etc., etc.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:56 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:They are doing that already, normally no vaccine gets tested in less than 3 years.


Indeed. I think the Trump family should be the first to take this vaccine. Flowed by the Pence family, etc., etc.

I would suggest Biden, but I doubt he could find his way to the medics on his own.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:00 pm

Galloism wrote:
-Ebola- wrote:
There's no implication that it wouldn't be better if the virus went away and everyone stopped dying.

Of course not. But, it's better for men to die than women, and in fact a cause for celebration that this is the case.

Because of the ideological shell game that has been placed on the public for many years (and possibly centuries), it's important to phase this in the appropriate correlative context.

Some numbers may be incorrect.

COVID’S WAR ON WHITE PEOPLE — During this plague year, there is almost never good news, only degrees of bad news. Even so, the pandemic has been different (and worse) for caucasians.

It’s true that more black people are dying than white people from Covid-19 around the world — but that’s not exactly cause for celebration.

Another ambivalent data point: More workplace risk is falling on white people, who are more likely to be considered essential workers. The upside to that is still having a job, but at what price? Sweden’s Foreign Minister Ann Linde pointed out today in a POLITICO interview that “70 percent of those working in health care and elderly care are white.”

And what percentage of Sweden's population is white?
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Postby Galloism » Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:01 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:
Galloism wrote:Of course not. But, it's better for men to die than women, and in fact a cause for celebration that this is the case.

Because of the ideological shell game that has been placed on the public for many years (and possibly centuries), it's important to phase this in the appropriate correlative context.

Some numbers may be incorrect.


And what percentage of Sweden's population is white?

That's really not the point.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:04 pm

Galloism wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:And what percentage of Sweden's population is white?

That's really not the point.


Lol. Seriously.

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Postby Albrenia » Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:09 pm

What the hell is the whole 'cause for celebration' thing about.

People dying of a pandemic is bad, no matter their gender or skin hue. What the fuck.

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Postby Australian rePublic » Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:20 pm

Galloism wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:And what percentage of Sweden's population is white?

That's really not the point.

70% of essential wokers are white. 70% of all Swedes are white. How is that not relevant?
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Postby Estanglia » Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:25 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:
Galloism wrote:That's really not the point.

70% of essential wokers are white. 70% of all Swedes are white. How is that not relevant?


The point being made was that swapping "female"/"woman" with "white" and "male"/"man" with "black" gets you a text that reads kinda racist (they're dismissing the suffering of blacks, and are in fact (if you read one of Gallo's other posts) celebrating the suffering of blacks).

That Sweden is 70% white is irrelevant, because the point being made is not that Sweden's 70% white, but that swapping a few words around gets you a text that reads racist.
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Postby Land of the Trolls » Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:25 pm

Any stats on whether it kills more Republicans or Democrats? Just wondering if I should celebrate. ;)

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Postby Galloism » Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:29 pm

Estanglia wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:70% of essential wokers are white. 70% of all Swedes are white. How is that not relevant?


The point being made was that swapping "female"/"woman" with "white" and "male"/"man" with "black" gets you a text that reads kinda racist (they're dismissing the suffering of blacks, and are in fact (if you read one of Gallo's other posts) celebrating the suffering of blacks).

That Sweden is 70% white is irrelevant, because the point being made is not that Sweden's 70% white, but that swapping a few words around gets you a text that reads racist.

Thank you for reading my post.

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Postby Australian rePublic » Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:33 pm

Estanglia wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:70% of essential wokers are white. 70% of all Swedes are white. How is that not relevant?


The point being made was that swapping "female"/"woman" with "white" and "male"/"man" with "black" gets you a text that reads kinda racist (they're dismissing the suffering of blacks, and are in fact (if you read one of Gallo's other posts) celebrating the suffering of blacks).

That Sweden is 70% white is irrelevant, because the point being made is not that Sweden's 70% white, but that swapping a few words around gets you a text that reads racist.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:55 pm

Anyone dieing from this virus is bad.
No one should be dieing from it.
Please stay safe.
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Postby Giovenith » Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:05 pm

Land of the Trolls wrote:Any stats on whether it kills more Republicans or Democrats? Just wondering if I should celebrate. ;)


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