Coronavirus Thread III: The Show Must Not Go On (READ OP)

[Nobel Hobos 2]

I dare say 100 people is far too many as it is.

Of coarse 100 is far too many. But ideals are not gonna stop idiocy

The president can't un-say what he said. But he could go on TV and say

"I made a mistake the other day. I was trying to make an analogy between new medicines, and the disinfectant people use on their floors and surfaces. I muddled it up and people got the wrong idea of what I meant. There are medicines that show some promise this is true, but you should only take them if prescribed to you by your doctor. Only then. Do not take your family member's medicine, do not take a double dose of medicine, do not take medicine you bought on the internet. Only the medicine prescribed to you, by your doctor, and in the dose prescribed by your doctor. And let me be very clear about this: do not drink bleach, or disinfectant, soap or drain cleaner. Do not deliberately inhale any of those things. Do not inject any of these things. Disinfectant is for floors and surfaces, don't even use it on food preparation surfaces unless you rinse it off afterwards. Bleach, disinfectant, lye and so on are poisonous. Let me say that again, poisonous. They will make you sick, they can cause you permanent injury, and they can even kill you if you let them into your body in any way. Once again I apologize for speaking unclearly a few days ago, and in particular I apologize to anyone who took my words as advice. Get in touch with your local department of health, they'll get back to me, and there will be a check with my name on it for you poor people. I'm very sorry and I'll try never to make a mistake like that again."

*astonished silence from press corps*

NYT reporter: Mr President, did you just apologize AND admit to having been wrong? I'm sorry to state the obvious but ...

President: Haha, got you AGAIN. I was just being sarcastic!

[Nakena]

I’m trying to find an English source, but Antena 3 (a Spanish news channel) is reporting 100 cases of hospitalization in the US over people drinking disinfectants or lye to treat CoVID19.

No no no. Why would anyone ever actually do that? It's extremely, extremely stupid. Even panic doesn't explain it.

Total madness and reality destruction however can.

I said this a while ago and people laughed at me when I said Trump would make people, specifically his followers, be ready to do anything.

Apparently this also includes them drinking poison. So...

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

No no no. Why would anyone ever actually do that? It's extremely, extremely stupid. Even panic doesn't explain it.

Total madness and reality destruction however can.

I said this a while ago and people laughed at me when I said Trump would make people, specifically his followers, be ready to do anything.

Apparently this also includes them drinking poison. So...

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

100 idiots. 100.

[Geneviev]

No no no. Why would anyone ever actually do that? It's extremely, extremely stupid. Even panic doesn't explain it.

Total madness and reality destruction however can.

I said this a while ago and people laughed at me when I said Trump would make people, specifically his followers, be ready to do anything.

Apparently this also includes them drinking poison. So...

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

They should know that it's poison, though. No one should actually drink it. It's completely obvious.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Total madness and reality destruction however can.

I said this a while ago and people laughed at me when I said Trump would make people, specifically his followers, be ready to do anything.

Apparently this also includes them drinking poison. So...

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

They should know that it's poison, though. No one should actually drink it. It's completely obvious.

You would think, right? Labels contain warning. Obvious. But oh no. Nothing is obvious anymore.

[Geneviev]

They should know that it's poison, though. No one should actually drink it. It's completely obvious.

You would think, right? Labels contain warning. Obvious. But oh no. Nothing is obvious anymore.

Don't drink things that can kill you isn't obvious? The only way it can be even somewhat reasonable is if they believe that poisoning themselves will guarantee that they go to heaven as martyrs. And that's still ridiculous. So, humanity is a great disappointment.

[Nakena]

It's has to do with reality perception failure.

If X says Y is true even if all evidence is there to contrary there comes often enough up the nano-second moment of analyizing the false hood. Ideally before rejecting it. For some people its a few seconds... well and for some others theres, usually due faulty, wrong capabilities and the likes the moment of doubt. Same as with other conspiracy theories. You know "there might be some kind of true core to Y".

This "there might be a core of truth" moment is all the more so if the person saying so is accepted as an figure or person of authority. Like the President of the United States.

Even if its obviously and utter bullshit.

Someone whoses reality perception is, due whatever factors, such as mental illness or excessive brainwashing etc. already being compromised or damaged is of course all the more receptive to such falsehoods.

Frankly, this is a fairly extreme case and probably leads (hopefully) a lot of people to "snap out" of this and rejecting Trump statements as in question of doubt... as false.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Total madness and reality destruction however can.

I said this a while ago and people laughed at me when I said Trump would make people, specifically his followers, be ready to do anything.

Apparently this also includes them drinking poison. So...

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

They should know that it's poison, though. No one should actually drink it. It's completely obvious.

Jim Jones's followers knew the Flavor Aid was poisoned, but they drank it anyway.


We are talking about a very small fraction of Trump's fanatical followers, to be fair. And maybe some of them weren't fanatical at all, just people with excessive respect and trust in whoever sits in the President's chair.

I'd further divide them into people who thought the President knew what he was talking about and took it as medical advice, and people who thought it was a coded message for them that they should literally kill themselves.

One more thing. At least 100 people were stupid enough to drink household cleaners, but so far none have won the Darwin Award. I take this to mean that none of them had the stupidity to keep on glugging something so nasty, and finish the whole bottle.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

It's has to do with reality perception failure.

If X says Y is true even if all evidence is there to contrary there comes often enough up the nano-second moment of analyizing the false hood. Ideally before rejecting it. For some people its a few seconds... well and for some others theres, usually due faulty, wrong capabilities and the likes the moment of doubt. Same as with other conspiracy theories. You know "there might be some kind of true core to Y".

This "there might be a core of truth" moment is all the more so if the person saying so is accepted as an figure or person of authority. Like the President of the United States.

Even if its obviously and utter bullshit.

Someone whoses reality perception is, due whatever factors, such as mental illness or excessive brainwashing etc. already being compromised or damaged is of course all the more receptive to such falsehoods.

Frankly, this is a fairly extreme case and probably leads (hopefully) a lot of people to "snap out" of this and rejecting Trump statements as in question of doubt... as false.

One can only hope, but my hope is really really tiny nowadays.

[Geneviev]

It's has to do with reality perception failure.

If X says Y is true even if all evidence is there to contrary there comes often enough up the nano-second moment of analyizing the false hood. Ideally before rejecting it. For some people its a few seconds... well and for some others theres, usually due faulty, wrong capabilities and the likes the moment of doubt. Same as with other conspiracy theories. You know "there might be some kind of true core to Y".

This "there might be a core of truth" moment is all the more so if the person saying so is accepted as an figure or person of authority. Like the President of the United States.

Even if its obviously and utter bullshit.

Someone whoses reality perception is, due whatever factors, such as mental illness or excessive brainwashing etc. already being compromised or damaged is of course all the more receptive to such falsehoods.

Frankly, this is a fairly extreme case and probably leads (hopefully) a lot of people to "snap out" of this and rejecting Trump statements as in question of doubt... as false.

It's too extreme. I might believe some things too easily, but I would never drink poison. Especially a president who is known to lie shouldn't be trusted that much. If people really even believe that, there is no hope at all.

[Nakena]

It's has to do with reality perception failure.

If X says Y is true even if all evidence is there to contrary there comes often enough up the nano-second moment of analyizing the false hood. Ideally before rejecting it. For some people its a few seconds... well and for some others theres, usually due faulty, wrong capabilities and the likes the moment of doubt. Same as with other conspiracy theories. You know "there might be some kind of true core to Y".

This "there might be a core of truth" moment is all the more so if the person saying so is accepted as an figure or person of authority. Like the President of the United States.

Even if its obviously and utter bullshit.

Someone whoses reality perception is, due whatever factors, such as mental illness or excessive brainwashing etc. already being compromised or damaged is of course all the more receptive to such falsehoods.

Frankly, this is a fairly extreme case and probably leads (hopefully) a lot of people to "snap out" of this and rejecting Trump statements as in question of doubt... as false.

It's too extreme. I might believe some things too easily, but I would never drink poison. Especially a president who is known to lie shouldn't be trusted that much. If people really even believe that, there is no hope at all.

Like NH2 has mentioned Jim Jones and other suicide cults convinced their followers to drink the literal kool aid.

I believe though the people here who drank the kool aid upon Trumps statement had, probably, already being conditions such as mental health issues of the one or other kind or other of problems already.

[-Astoria]

Update #278.5 - it's official - we've hit the 1,000 case mark, with 114 new cases & 1 dead.

Obligatory marinara to go with that.

[Valrifell]

It's too extreme. I might believe some things too easily, but I would never drink poison. Especially a president who is known to lie shouldn't be trusted that much. If people really even believe that, there is no hope at all.

Like NH2 has mentioned Jim Jones and other suicide cults convinced their followers to drink the literal kool aid.

I believe though the people here who drank the kool aid upon Trumps statement had, probably, already being conditions such as mental health issues of the one or other kind or other of problems already.

You don't have to be mentally ill to "drink the kool-aid" so to speak. Most folk indoctrinated into a cult of personality are otherwise high-functioning, normal, and healthy. A more accurate scenario is the people who go through with this have been indoctrinated into Trump's personality cult to a concerning degree.

If you're a fan of conspiracy theories, you could create one in which Trump said what he did on purpose, in an effort to test the strength of his control on the American people.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

I’m trying to find an English source, but Antena 3 (a Spanish news channel) is reporting 100 cases of hospitalization in the US over people drinking disinfectants or lye to treat CoVID19.

Oh my god.

[Geneviev]

It's too extreme. I might believe some things too easily, but I would never drink poison. Especially a president who is known to lie shouldn't be trusted that much. If people really even believe that, there is no hope at all.

Like NH2 has mentioned Jim Jones and other suicide cults convinced their followers to drink the literal kool aid.

I believe though the people here who drank the kool aid upon Trumps statement had, probably, already being conditions such as mental health issues of the one or other kind or other of problems already.

Their followers knew they would die. Convincing people to die is not the same as convincing people that something that will obviously kill them will save their lives. And I would never have thought that it's possible.

[Aikoriland]

I’m trying to find an English source, but Antena 3 (a Spanish news channel) is reporting 100 cases of hospitalization in the US over people drinking disinfectants or lye to treat CoVID19.

Oh my god.

I don't know why so many people here are surprised by this. I am just surprised the number isn't much higher.

[Geneviev]

Oh my god.

I don't know why so many people here are surprised by this. I am just surprised the number isn't much higher.

Because they literally drank poison. That is surprising.

[The Alma Mater]

Total madness and reality destruction however can.

I said this a while ago and people laughed at me when I said Trump would make people, specifically his followers, be ready to do anything.

Apparently this also includes them drinking poison. So...

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

They should know that it's poison, though. No one should actually drink it. It's completely obvious.

People gave their autistic babies bleach to "cure the autism".
And that that would work was said somewhere by someone on the internet, not by the president , the great and fearless leader of the nation.

[Valrifell]

They should know that it's poison, though. No one should actually drink it. It's completely obvious.

People gave their autistic babies bleach to "cure the autism".
And that that would work was said somewhere by someone on the internet, not by the president , the great and fearless leader of the nation.

A lot of wellness brands that push that kind of pseudo-scientific stuff can also be thought of as cults as well.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Like NH2 has mentioned Jim Jones and other suicide cults convinced their followers to drink the literal kool aid.

I believe though the people here who drank the kool aid upon Trumps statement had, probably, already being conditions such as mental health issues of the one or other kind or other of problems already.

Their followers knew they would die. Convincing people to die is not the same as convincing people that something that will obviously kill them will save their lives. And I would never have thought that it's possible.

Let me stress that the report isn’t stating that any of the 100 cases has died from drinking disinfectants. Just that they’ve been admitted to hospital for doing it.

Hopefully this just another lesson they have acquired from the school of hard knocks and nobody dies.

[Aikoriland]

I don't know why so many people here are surprised by this. I am just surprised the number isn't much higher.

Because they literally drank poison. That is surprising.

The world has no shortage of stupid people. That aside, Trump said something along the lines of consuming disinfectants to fight the Wuhan virus and his followers are known to be pretty zealous in their faith in everything he says.

[Geneviev]

They should know that it's poison, though. No one should actually drink it. It's completely obvious.

People gave their autistic babies bleach to "cure the autism".
And that that would work was said somewhere by someone on the internet, not by the president , the great and fearless leader of the nation.

What? When did that happen?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

They should know that it's poison, though. No one should actually drink it. It's completely obvious.

People gave their autistic babies bleach to "cure the autism".
And that that would work was said somewhere by someone on the internet, not by the president , the great and fearless leader of the nation.

Coincidentally speaking of the bleach peddlers there's circumstantial evidence that these very same bleach peddlers injected (figuratively speaking) our infamous stupid idea into the head of the head of state of the United States.

[The Alma Mater]

Of coarse 100 is far too many. But ideals are not gonna stop idiocy

The president can't un-say what he said. But he could go on TV and say

"I made a mistake the other day. I was trying to make an analogy between new medicines, and the disinfectant people use on their floors and surfaces. I muddled it up and people got the wrong idea of what I meant. There are medicines that show some promise this is true, but you should only take them if prescribed to you by your doctor. Only then. Do not take your family member's medicine, do not take a double dose of medicine, do not take medicine you bought on the internet. Only the medicine prescribed to you, by your doctor, and in the dose prescribed by your doctor. And let me be very clear about this: do not drink bleach, or disinfectant, soap or drain cleaner. Do not deliberately inhale any of those things. Do not inject any of these things. Disinfectant is for floors and surfaces, don't even use it on food preparation surfaces unless you rinse it off afterwards. Bleach, disinfectant, lye and so on are poisonous. Let me say that again, poisonous. They will make you sick, they can cause you permanent injury, and they can even kill you if you let them into your body in any way. Once again I apologize for speaking unclearly a few days ago, and in particular I apologize to anyone who took my words as advice. Get in touch with your local department of health, they'll get back to me, and there will be a check with my name on it for you poor people. I'm very sorry and I'll try never to make a mistake like that again."

*astonished silence from press corps*

NYT reporter: Mr President, did you just apologize AND admit to having been wrong? I'm sorry to state the obvious but ...

President: Haha, got you AGAIN. I was just being sarcastic!

Do note that with his "I was being sarcastic to fuck with the media" statement he also admitted he did not mean to say "we need something that works like a disinfectant, but then inside the body" - but really meant "we should study if injecting disinfectant is a good idea".

[Valrifell]

People gave their autistic babies bleach to "cure the autism".
And that that would work was said somewhere by someone on the internet, not by the president , the great and fearless leader of the nation.

What? When did that happen?

It's been a thing for years at this point.

That's but one source, there are uncountably many articles and videos on the topic.