Coronavirus Thread III: The Show Must Not Go On (READ OP)

[Nobel Hobos 2]

You'd think with Trump's penchant for gold, he'd be able to remember Golden Staph.

Maybe he doesn't want to say it because that would be taking his god's name in vain?

And they're constantly trying to come up with a new – people go to a hospital and they catch – they go for a heart operation – that's no problem, but they end up dying from – from Goldman Sachs. You know the problems I'm talking about. There's a whole genius to it.

Nice!

[Rojava Free State]

Because they're scared. They sacrificed freedom for security and deserve neither.

I am not totally sold on the lockdown approach. I think that the spread of the virus could have been contained without banning people from going to their cottages or boating, and i think we could have avoided a lockdown if we had prepared for this. We need more testing. Our government is taking 100,000 years to do something I would expect the US to be able to pull off with ease.

The data clearly contradicts your position. Non-lockdown measures singularly failed to take the R₀ below 1.

I am thoroughly convinced that had we been testing we wouldn't have needed to do a shelter in place order. South Korea and Taiwan are proof that a lockdown is not a requirement, it is what happens when you don't prepare.

And seriously how the fuck are you gonna give COVID to someone by going out on your boat? There's no logic to that. We're locked down because our government didnt do what it should have done. This was not inevitable.

[Aikoriland]

The data clearly contradicts your position. Non-lockdown measures singularly failed to take the R₀ below 1.

I am thoroughly convinced that had we been testing we wouldn't have needed to do a shelter in place order. South Korea and Taiwan are proof that a lockdown is not a requirement, it is what happens when you don't prepare.

And seriously how the fuck are you gonna give COVID to someone by going out on your boat? There's no logic to that. We're locked down because our government didnt do what it should have done. This was not inevitable.

Indeed. Look at South Korea. They never implemented a full-scale lockdown like Europe and parts of the US have. They only shutdown a few things and for the most part, life has stayed normal there. Not only that, but they flattened their curve a long time ago.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

We've reopened golf courses. The only restrictions are (a) groups maximum of 2 players, (b) leave the pin in the hole and (c) don't rake out the bunkers. b and c are because players would have to touch them.

This is interesting to me. Not because I want to play golf, but because with very few modifications golf is the ideal sport for our current social distancing regime. It can serve as a model for other sports: if they propose a sensible set of restrictions or modifications, government can allow those to start up again too.

Tennis looks pretty good. Professional tennis could use a new ball for each Game. Amateur players who couldn't afford that I'm not sure. But maybe My balls and Your balls, so the two players are never handling the same ball?

Any code of football has problems. Even world football, a supposedly non-contact sport: changing the rules so players can't come within 1.5 m (Aus) or 6 ft (US) would completely ruin the game. Players could barely mark each other, and they couldn't contest the ball at all. Any brand of rugby is out. Gridiron is out. Basketball or ice hockey, the courts aren't big enough, you could shake an opponent just by coming near the sideline.

But baseball perhaps? Would it ruin the game to have a second set of bases further out ("throwing bases" for the basemen), leaving the regular bases (now "running bases") in the regular position?

Any other games people can think of, that could plausibly be played while maintaining social distancing? Any that could be played but only with modifications?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I’m trying to find an English source, but Antena 3 (a Spanish news channel) is reporting 100 cases of hospitalization in the US over people drinking disinfectants or lye to treat CoVID19.

[Aikoriland]

I’m trying to find an English source, but Antena 3 (a Spanish news channel) is reporting 100 cases of hospitalization in the US over people drinking disinfectants or lye to treat CoVID19.

Killing yourself to take the virus with you. It's extreme, but the virus will never see it coming. It's the perfect tactic! After all, one of the best ways to win a war is to do things the enemy would never expect

Of course I am kidding around. Really, it is a stupid thing to do and I think it is because of Trump's stupid idea!

[Nobel Hobos 2]

I am thoroughly convinced that had we been testing we wouldn't have needed to do a shelter in place order. South Korea and Taiwan are proof that a lockdown is not a requirement, it is what happens when you don't prepare.

And seriously how the fuck are you gonna give COVID to someone by going out on your boat? There's no logic to that. We're locked down because our government didnt do what it should have done. This was not inevitable.

Indeed. Look at South Korea. They never implemented a full-scale lockdown like Europe and parts of the US have. They only shutdown a few things and for the most part, life has stayed normal there. Not only that, but they flattened their curve a long time ago.

I agree with RFS more than I agree with you. It's because you left out "it is what happens when you don't prepare"

South Korea and Taiwan both got good results early by acting early. When you do that you can blow all your tests tracing contacts (ie testing people even if they don't have symptoms, just because they contacted someone with it).

Lockdown is certainly second best, to hunting the disease down through contact tracing and testing. But it's just unreasonable to expect such a huge increase in testing capacity that we can do the best thing, we're stuck with doing the second best thing for quite a while.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I’m trying to find an English source, but Antena 3 (a Spanish news channel) is reporting 100 cases of hospitalization in the US over people drinking disinfectants or lye to treat CoVID19.

Killing yourself to take the virus with you. It's extreme, but the virus will never see it coming. It's the perfect tactic! After all, one of the best ways to win a war is to do things the enemy would never expect

Of course I am kidding around. Really, it is a stupid thing to do and I think it is because of Trump's stupid idea!

I understand you’re joking, and that made me chuckle.

However, this is why a president has to watch what he/she says. And if they speak, particularly if it deals with the health of their constituents, that it needs to be backed by evidence. Because there are those who listen and think they're right.

He should not be speaking about treatments or medication. He needs to leave that to the medical task force he has formed. He needs to shut the fuck up and let those experts talk. Now we have this, on top of the pandemic. Gods.

[The Alma Mater]

I’m trying to find an English source, but Antena 3 (a Spanish news channel) is reporting 100 cases of hospitalization in the US over people drinking disinfectants or lye to treat CoVID19.

Only a 100 ? I had expected thousands, tens of thousands even.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I’m trying to find an English source, but Antena 3 (a Spanish news channel) is reporting 100 cases of hospitalization in the US over people drinking disinfectants or lye to treat CoVID19.

Only a 100 ? I had expected thousands, tens of thousands even.

I dare say 100 people is far too many as it is.

[Australian rePublic]

I’m trying to find an English source, but Antena 3 (a Spanish news channel) is reporting 100 cases of hospitalization in the US over people drinking disinfectants or lye to treat CoVID19.

Only a 100 ? I had expected thousands, tens of thousands even.

It's early days still. This ain't even the tip of the iceberg

[Diahon]

I’m trying to find an English source, but Antena 3 (a Spanish news channel) is reporting 100 cases of hospitalization in the US over people drinking disinfectants or lye to treat CoVID19.

letthisbeajokeletthisbeajokeohgoodlordletthisbeabloodyjoke

[Antahbrantahstan]

I’m trying to find an English source, but Antena 3 (a Spanish news channel) is reporting 100 cases of hospitalization in the US over people drinking disinfectants or lye to treat CoVID19.

Oh my goodness.

Well, i guess that's natural selection at its finest

[New Visayan Islands]

As of April 25th, 2020 at 1600 PHT/0400 EDT, PH has 7294 cases with 494 dead and 792 recoveries.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I’m trying to find an English source, but Antena 3 (a Spanish news channel) is reporting 100 cases of hospitalization in the US over people drinking disinfectants or lye to treat CoVID19.

letthisbeajokeletthisbeajokeohgoodlordletthisbeabloodyjoke

Like I said, I’m trying to find an English source but I don’t see anything. I’ll just translate the one in the link if anyone’s interested.

[Fartsniffage]

letthisbeajokeletthisbeajokeohgoodlordletthisbeabloodyjoke

Like I said, I’m trying to find an English source but I don’t see anything. I’ll just translate the one in the link if anyone’s interested.

Google translate got it pretty perfect for me.

[Australian rePublic]

Donald Trump telling people to drink disinfectant. Insert My Big Fat Greek Wedding reference here

[Aikoriland]

Indeed. Look at South Korea. They never implemented a full-scale lockdown like Europe and parts of the US have. They only shutdown a few things and for the most part, life has stayed normal there. Not only that, but they flattened their curve a long time ago.

I agree with RFS more than I agree with you. It's because you left out "it is what happens when you don't prepare"

South Korea and Taiwan both got good results early by acting early. When you do that you can blow all your tests tracing contacts (ie testing people even if they don't have symptoms, just because they contacted someone with it).

Lockdown is certainly second best, to hunting the disease down through contact tracing and testing. But it's just unreasonable to expect such a huge increase in testing capacity that we can do the best thing, we're stuck with doing the second best thing for quite a while.

Where did I denounce acting swiftly?

[The Alma Mater]

Only a 100 ? I had expected thousands, tens of thousands even.

I dare say 100 people is far too many as it is.

It is; but considering the masspanic, the president suggesting it might be a good idea and the presence of it in every household 100 seems incredibly low.
I believe even more people tried ingesting chloroquine from their fishfood...

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Like I said, I’m trying to find an English source but I don’t see anything. I’ll just translate the one in the link if anyone’s interested.

Google translate got it pretty perfect for me.

“More than 100 admitted (to hospitals) in the United States after ingesting detergent or bleach to treat coronavirus after indications from Donald Trump

More than 100 Americans have had to be admitted (to hospital) after ingesting detergent or bleach due to indications given by US President Donald Trump.

Trump justified his proposal to use disinfectant injections: "He spoke sarcastically"
United States President Donald Trump suggested that disinfectant injections could be a treatment for coronavirus, an idea that has generated strong controversy and rejection among the medical community in the United States.
“Also, I see the disinfectant, which knocks it out (to the coronavirus) in a minute, a minute, so if there is a way to do something with it, injecting it into (the body) or almost like a cleansing, "Trump said.
The health authorities of New York have joined this Friday the voices that have shown their rejection of the suggestions of the US president. "Under no circumstances should disinfectants or cleaning products be used to treat or prevent COVID-19," the New York State Department of Health warned in a tweet.
The president's remarks have sparked a chain reaction from those responsible for the health care of millions of Americans, doctors and even the manufacturer of one of the main disinfectants used in millions of homes, especially during the pandemic's scourge.”

[Australian rePublic]

Only a 100 ? I had expected thousands, tens of thousands even.

I dare say 100 people is far too many as it is.

Of coarse 100 is far too many. But ideals are not gonna stop idiocy

[Nobel Hobos 2]

I agree with RFS more than I agree with you. It's because you left out "it is what happens when you don't prepare"

South Korea and Taiwan both got good results early by acting early. When you do that you can blow all your tests tracing contacts (ie testing people even if they don't have symptoms, just because they contacted someone with it).

Lockdown is certainly second best, to hunting the disease down through contact tracing and testing. But it's just unreasonable to expect such a huge increase in testing capacity that we can do the best thing, we're stuck with doing the second best thing for quite a while.

Where did I denounce acting swiftly?

It's what you left out. You said what South Korea didn't do, but not what they did. That leads to the false impression that doing nothing will flatten the curve.

Acting swiftly is great. But that option is in the past. Unless you've got a time machine we can't act swiftly.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I dare say 100 people is far too many as it is.

Of coarse 100 is far too many. But ideals are not gonna stop idiocy

The point is that this shouldn’t have happened in the first place, had this dipshit of a president not started with BS suggestions. Again. Then again, those following his “medical” advice lack common sense and self-preservation. So, fault is equally shared here.

[Salandriagado]

The data clearly contradicts your position. Non-lockdown measures singularly failed to take the R₀ below 1.

I am thoroughly convinced that had we been testing we wouldn't have needed to do a shelter in place order. South Korea and Taiwan are proof that a lockdown is not a requirement, it is what happens when you don't prepare.

And seriously how the fuck are you gonna give COVID to someone by going out on your boat? There's no logic to that. We're locked down because our government didnt do what it should have done. This was not inevitable.

Oh yeah, early mass testing and targetted quarantines would have avoided the problem. By the time western governments did anything at all, though, that ship had sailed.

[Geneviev]

I’m trying to find an English source, but Antena 3 (a Spanish news channel) is reporting 100 cases of hospitalization in the US over people drinking disinfectants or lye to treat CoVID19.

No no no. Why would anyone ever actually do that? It's extremely, extremely stupid. Even panic doesn't explain it.