LWDT IX: Discussing the Left From All Engels

[Cisairse]

MRAs, pick up artists and MGTOWs are the allies of the far-right

wut?

women energies

WHAT!?

[. . .]

I'm assuming this is a LARP because the few five lines reads like the stereotypical Alt-Left Regressive strawman.

What's the "alt left" and where can I sign up

[Byeclase]

wut?WHAT!?I'm assuming this is a LARP because the few five lines reads like the stereotypical Alt-Left Regressive strawman.

What's the "alt left" and where can I sign up

You need to do a satanic ritual with the portrait of Stalin after starving 666 trillion people, drink white genocided blood and do black magic certified from witches of the sociological class of the Frankfurt school, then spread the homosexualist disease among earth and break the family until summoning the Petersonian dragon of chaos.

[Cisairse]

What's the "alt left" and where can I sign up

You need to do a satanic ritual with the portrait of Stalin after starving 666 trillion people, drink white genocided blood and do black magic certified from witches of the sociological class of the Frankfurt school, then spread the homosexualist disease among earth and break the family until summoning the Petersonian dragon of chaos.

Damn I've only killed 50 trillion people, I really have to pick up the pace huh.

[Cisairse]

Can this please be the next poll

[Dahyan]

Is this "alt-left" designation really a thing people still do? Liberals will really go far in order to find new words for what is basically good old Marxism.

[The Alma Mater]

Can this please be the next poll

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Someone has been reading His Dark Materials...

[Dumb Ideologies]

Is this "alt-left" designation really a thing people still do? Liberals will really go far in order to find new words for what is basically good old Marxism.

If it gets too much you can join my "alt-tab" movement where we run into traffic and hope to get reincarnated into another world with a more tolerable ideological system.

[Alt-Right Death Squads]

Is this "alt-left" designation really a thing people still do? Liberals will really go far in order to find new words for what is basically good old Marxism.

I've seen it used a few times, which is why I use it. Slowly people are turning the term "regressive left" into a meaningless insult like "SJW". So it's why I added the "Alt-", because I need a way of noting the problematic leftist Progressives (i.e. Democratic Socialists).

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Is this "alt-left" designation really a thing people still do? Liberals will really go far in order to find new words for what is basically good old Marxism.

I've seen it used a few times, which is why I use it. Slowly people are turning the term "regressive left" into a meaningless insult like "SJW". So it's why I added the "Alt-", because I need a way of noting the problematic leftist Progressives (i.e. Democratic Socialists).

Regressive left has always been a meaningless insult. As has SJW.

If you want to refer to problematic lefitist progressives, Democratic socialists, why don’t use the term ‘democratic socialists’? Why do you need an inflamatory term in top of a descriptive term?

[Dumb Ideologies]

I've seen it used a few times, which is why I use it. Slowly people are turning the term "regressive left" into a meaningless insult like "SJW". So it's why I added the "Alt-", because I need a way of noting the problematic leftist Progressives (i.e. Democratic Socialists).

Regressive left has always been a meaningless insult. As has SJW.

If you want to refer to problematic lefitist progressives, Democratic socialists, why don’t use the term ‘democratic socialists’? Why do you need an inflamatory term in top of a descriptive term?

Creating or appropriating a negative term which consolidates all an enemy group's worst characteristics into one big stereotype means you can avoid debating them and just refer to the name and own them for free. Have you been under a rock? It's the top selling political game of the twenty-first century! Fun for all the family.

[Rojava Free State]

Is this "alt-left" designation really a thing people still do? Liberals will really go far in order to find new words for what is basically good old Marxism.

Trump made the word up after someone asked him about the alt right. Frankly I don't really like that term either. They're not "alternative right." They're fascists and racists hellbent on creating the great white America that never was.

That's right, America was never all white.

[Ostroeuropa]

Is this "alt-left" designation really a thing people still do? Liberals will really go far in order to find new words for what is basically good old Marxism.

Trump made the word up after someone asked him about the alt right. Frankly I don't really like that term either. They're not "alternative right." They're fascists and racists hellbent on creating the great white America that never was.

That's right, America was never all white.

Some people identify as alt-left unironically.

[Blackdove]

Is this "alt-left" designation really a thing people still do? Liberals will really go far in order to find new words for what is basically good old Marxism.

Trump made the word up after someone asked him about the alt right. Frankly I don't really like that term either. They're not "alternative right." They're fascists and racists hellbent on creating the great white America that never was.

That's right, America was never all white.

Well, America was built on the back of racism so it's not much of a stretch.

[Blackdove]

Is this "alt-left" designation really a thing people still do? Liberals will really go far in order to find new words for what is basically good old Marxism.

I've seen it used a few times, which is why I use it. Slowly people are turning the term "regressive left" into a meaningless insult like "SJW". So it's why I added the "Alt-", because I need a way of noting the problematic leftist Progressives (i.e. Democratic Socialists).

I think adding "democratic" infront of socialist is simply useless as socialism necessitates democracy of the workers, but how are they problematic?

[North German Realm]

Is this "alt-left" designation really a thing people still do? Liberals will really go far in order to find new words for what is basically good old Marxism.

Trump made the word up after someone asked him about the alt right. Frankly I don't really like that term either. They're not "alternative right." They're fascists and racists hellbent on creating the great white America that never was.

That's right, America was never all white.

America was white-supremacist for the majority of its history tho. I mean, to be fair "White" as a catch-all "race" is really only a North American invention so literally no other country could be "white" supremacist. To use an overused trope, good luck telling the Nazi he and his Polish neighbor both belong to the same "master race".

[Shanghai industrial complex]

Trump made the word up after someone asked him about the alt right. Frankly I don't really like that term either. They're not "alternative right." They're fascists and racists hellbent on creating the great white America that never was.

That's right, America was never all white.

America was white-supremacist for the majority of its history tho. I mean, to be fair "White" as a catch-all "race" is really only a North American invention so literally no other country could be "white" supremacist. To use an overused trope, good luck telling the Nazi he and his Polish neighbor both belong to the same "master race".

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[Alt-Right Death Squads]

I've seen it used a few times, which is why I use it. Slowly people are turning the term "regressive left" into a meaningless insult like "SJW". So it's why I added the "Alt-", because I need a way of noting the problematic leftist Progressives (i.e. Democratic Socialists).

Regressive left has always been a meaningless insult. As has SJW.

If you want to refer to problematic lefitist progressives, Democratic socialists, why don’t use the term ‘democratic socialists’? Why do you need an inflamatory term in top of a descriptive term?

SJW was co-op'd and regressive wasn't used as an insult for left leaning ideologies, at the time, or maybe it was... but at least it accurately described the policies of racial segregation (alternatively know as POC safe spaces).

Because their naming conventions are dangerously orwellian; I need accurate labels that accurately describe who/what I'm talking about, not useless focus-group tested double-speak.

[Alt-Right Death Squads]

America was white-supremacist for the majority of its history tho. I mean, to be fair "White" as a catch-all "race" is really only a North American invention so literally no other country could be "white" supremacist. To use an overused trope, good luck telling the Nazi he and his Polish neighbor both belong to the same "master race".

how-american-racism-influenced-hitler

eugenics isn't racisms, eugenics is a fact.

[Dumb Ideologies]

how-american-racism-influenced-hitler

eugenics isn't racisms, eugenics is a fact.

Eugenics is very big, which particular elements would you like to resurrect and what form would they take in current year?

[Alt-Right Death Squads]

eugenics isn't racisms, eugenics is a fact.

Eugenics is very big, which particular elements would you like to resurrect and what form would they take in current year?

Make the average American a genetic super soldier by the year 2099.

Edit: oh, my method; ya, sure. Short/weak people have to be sterilized and/or allowed to leave. Though I guess, alternatively, either they or their potential offspring must go through genetic modifications to remove all traces of weakness from their genetic lineage.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

how-american-racism-influenced-hitler

eugenics isn't racisms, eugenics is a fact.

Eugenics is literally racism. According to eugenic literature, you can determine important aspects of people by looking at their race.

If you’re racist, just own your racism. Don’t try to claim that your racist ideology is not racist, it’s disingenuous. You have convinced yourself that racism is bad, and you are not bad, so you cannot be racist.

Eugenics, however, is inherently racist.

[Cisairse]

I've seen it used a few times, which is why I use it. Slowly people are turning the term "regressive left" into a meaningless insult like "SJW". So it's why I added the "Alt-", because I need a way of noting the problematic leftist Progressives (i.e. Democratic Socialists).

I think adding "democratic" infront of socialist is simply useless as socialism necessitates democracy of the workers, but how are they problematic?

I disagree, there are plenty non-democratic forms of socialism.

The "democratic" qualifier doesn't just refer to democratic workplaces, it refers to more broadly weaving a socialist system into a democratic society. You can directly contrast this term with authoritarian socialism (a socialist economy with a non-democratic authoritarian society), libertarian socialism (a socialist economy with a minarchist or otherwise very small government), and anarcho-socialism (a socialist society with no state).

It would generally be improper to refer to, for example, anarchist communes as "democratic socialist" societies just because there is a degree of self-governance among workers.

[Ostroeuropa]

Meanwhile, on fox news;

Is this horseshoe theory in action?

Socialists: "Capitalism is fueled by racism."
Fox: "Yes."

[Novus America]

That is silly. Young children are too young to make major life decisions on their own and the family unit is necessary for their care and upbringing. Even if they do not consent to be born into a family, the family still exists for their own good. Of course abusive families exist, which is why we have Child Protective Services, but a majority of children would probably be far worse off without the support of a family.

Hardly. The nuclear family is not the only alternative to letting wolves raise our kids.

The alternatives are going to also be hierarchical and non-consensual. Tribal organization is usually a even more hierarchical and non consensual on such things. Children will sometimes have to be made to do things they do wish to do by some hierarchical structure.

[Lucja]

Are you seriously claiming that the Katyn Massacre wasn't committed by the Soviets?

Yes, and I think Gorbachov as the gravedigger of the Soviet Union made up material about the topic which is taken by contemporary historians. Thank you for looking my old posts.

That the Soviets committed the Katyn massacre was such an open secret that the prosecutors didn't even bother to charge Nazi war criminals at Nuremberg and everyone except Russian nationalists and Marxists accept that Beria and Stalin were responsible. Only those two movements have the shamelessness to deny it.

Do you paint your tinfoil hat red for aesthetic points?

I have to assume rejection defending things that aren't popular. I think Goebbels admitted the massacre in his diary and that there were forgeries of documents. If I was shown I was wrong, then I'd be sorry and condemn it.

“Polish mass graves have been found near Smolensk. The Bolsheviks simply shot down and then shoveled into mass graves some 10,000 Polish prisoners, among them civilian captives, bishops, intellectuals, artists, et cetera. . . .Gruesome aberrations of the human soul were thus revealed. I saw to it that the Polish mass graves be inspected by neutral journalists from Berlin. I also had Polish intellectuals taken there. They are to see for themselves what is in store for them should their wish that the Germans be defeated by the Bolsheviks actually be fulfilled.”