Joke's on you, I can pretend to be oppressed and get tons of money on Patreon if you do that
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by LRON » Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:09 pm
by Fahran » Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:09 pm
You’re just lying here.
The word aristocracy was used. Then, a reference was made to Republican Rome and feudalism. Only afterwards did the poster say ‘but I meant Platonic Aristocracy’, to which the response was ‘then you should have defined that more clearly’.
The way you make it sound, someone wanted to discuss Platonic aristocracy and we all said ‘BOOOOOOHHHH’, which is clearly not what happened.
I don't really care what you think about that, to be honest. You should not betray an oppressed group of people for your own gain, and being a part of the very group you're betraying makes it especially vile. The Jews in Israel of today are not oppressed, they are doing the oppressing; contrary to what you're implying there, the situation where you're "betraying" matters quite a lot.
by Mirial Magna » Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:11 pm
Abril 8, 4020: The Republic has tracked General Grievous to Utapau! Perhaps this terrible clone war is finally coming to an end, even if we are on the losing side.
by Dumb Ideologies » Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:11 pm
by Mirial Magna » Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:17 pm
Abril 8, 4020: The Republic has tracked General Grievous to Utapau! Perhaps this terrible clone war is finally coming to an end, even if we are on the losing side.
by Dumb Ideologies » Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:19 pm
by Fahran » Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:19 pm
Cekoviu wrote:First of all, gross
Second of all, because it's not necessary or helpful
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Very bad praxis. You jump to the left, then step to the right.
by Mirial Magna » Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:20 pm
Abril 8, 4020: The Republic has tracked General Grievous to Utapau! Perhaps this terrible clone war is finally coming to an end, even if we are on the losing side.
by Cisairse » Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:21 pm
by Fahran » Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:21 pm
Mirial Magna wrote:I'll give you a cookie.
Cisairse wrote:I reject your ability to control who does and does not have cookies based on any criteria other than need.
by Mirial Magna » Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:24 pm
Abril 8, 4020: The Republic has tracked General Grievous to Utapau! Perhaps this terrible clone war is finally coming to an end, even if we are on the losing side.
by Fahran » Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:28 pm
by Proctopeo » Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:32 pm
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Top left/top right/bottom right unity against the deplatform gang.
by Fahran » Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:34 pm
Proctopeo wrote:Dumb Ideologies wrote:Top left/top right/bottom right unity against the deplatform gang.
it's funny how the most ardent supporters of deplatforming and corporate censorship are the left-libertarians
you'd expect them to, you know, oppose both of those things, at least the vast majority of the time, instead of basically never
by Duvniask » Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:39 pm
Fahran wrote:I don't really care what you think about that, to be honest. You should not betray an oppressed group of people for your own gain, and being a part of the very group you're betraying makes it especially vile. The Jews in Israel of today are not oppressed, they are doing the oppressing; contrary to what you're implying there, the situation where you're "betraying" matters quite a lot.
"I don't care that I'm being racist." Um, cool?
Jewish people are an oppressed group globally. We're the religious group that's most likely to face hate crimes and bigotry in the United States. We've experienced multiple genocides and expulsions. The fact that we have enjoyed a seventy year period of strength over a population that previously engaged in pogroms and attacks against us does not abolish the entirety of history.
A Jewish person who opposes Zionism is actively reducing the options and theoretical rights of all Jewish people, sometines in favor of promoting the rights of a group that has historically persecuted Jewish people.
It's still problematic for a non-Jewish person to call a Jewish person anything that approximates the term "race traitor."
Like I said, stay in your lane.
If you start shouting that at someone outside your narrow bubble, you're going to catch heat for it.
Because you're still a white person. It's not your place.
by Fahran » Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:52 pm
Duvniask wrote:No, I am not being racist for saying that Jewish people are capable of committing great wrong against their own. Your accusations of racism are a shield to protect yourself and other Jewish people from criticism.
Duvniask wrote:Using past oppression to justify current oppression is nothing but continuing the ugly wheel of history.
Duvniask wrote:Lol, so that makes racism and persecution against Palestinians okay I guess. Two wrongs don't make a right. The Holocaust doesn't make it okay for IDF snipers to murder children in cold blood.
Duvniask wrote:Jews for Hitler weren't race traitors then, I guess.
Duvniask wrote:No.
Duvniask wrote:I have plenty of opinions for which I can already catch heat. That fact in itself doesn't concern me.
Duvniask wrote:How dare the Whitey think a Jewish person can be wrong about something.
Duvniask wrote:Listen, don't throw stones if you live in a glass house. If you're gonna defend an oppressive ethno-state that routinely terrorizes and murders Palestinian civilians, I'm not going to be convinced you care the least about racism. Israel is an Apartheid state engaged in illegal occupation and colonization of Palestinian land. Anti-semitism should never be used to justify new avenues of oppression.
by Liriena » Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:02 pm
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