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by Narland » Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:46 am
by The Free Joy State » Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:05 am
Cekoviu wrote:The Free Joy State wrote:It would depend on the individual child (their needs, their maturity).
For most children, when they're going into high school (so 11/12, depending on the country) would be an appropriate time to give them an inexpensive, sturdy phone (one where it wouldn't matter too much if it got broken or lost) so they can stay in touch while out with or going to be late or ask permission to go to a friend's house after school.
Some children -- for example, children who have to travel long distances to school at a younger age or children with some medical conditions -- may require a (very) basic phone several years younger.
All-singing, all-dancing phones that can download the greatest hits, do your taxes and tell you the current temperature on the opposite side of the Moon... I think teenagers should save up their allowance money (and birthday/Christmas money) and buy them for themselves.
er, high school at 11/12?
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by The Free Joy State » Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:13 am
by Cisairse » Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:33 am
by Cisairse » Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:35 am
The Free Joy State wrote:Cekoviu wrote:Yeah, we just don't call junior high "high school" (at least around here).
It's confusing for a Brit.
Here, we have Primary School (4-11) and High School (11-16/19 if there's further education attached -- i.e. a Sixth Form; or is the minimum leaving age 17 now...)
by Narland » Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:42 am
by Purple Rats » Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:14 am
Diopolis wrote:Purple Rats wrote:Question to those, who think kids don't need phone, before teenager:
1. What is this kid suppose to do, when they wanna go somewhere after school? With a phone it's simple "Hey, I will go to ...."
2. What is the parent suppose to do, when there is time arriving when kid normally would arrive to home, but for some reason does not....
3. Kid is outside, parent is changing their plan, and want to take kid with them somewhere, how they are get their kid?
Also if someone is missing, who is friend with your kid, their parents could call you, so you can call your kid and ask maybe they are with them.
1. Ask their parent, like anyone else. Maybe he could borrow someone else's phone.
2. Wait a few minutes, it's probably nothing. Eventually go looking.
3. Go walk over and talk to him, we don't walk enough nowadays anyway.
by Asle Leopolka » Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:54 pm
by The Strangers Club » Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:02 pm
Cameroi wrote:pre-partum. while they are still in the womb. to relieve the bordem of being all cramped up in there.
provided of course this is at no cost to their parents.
by Ghost Land » Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:21 pm
Narland wrote:Most American Public Schools:
Schools with a Junior High
6 years of Elementary School (Primary Education) -- Grades 1-6 -- usually start at 6 or 7 years old (kids born in November and December)
2 years of Junior High School (Secondary Education) -- Grades 7-8 -- usually 13-14 years old (some 15 y.o.)
4 years of High School (also confusingly a part of Secondary Education) -- Grades 9 -12 usually 15 - 18 years old (some 19 y. o.)
Schools with a Middle School
6 years of Elementary School (Primary Education) -- Grades 1-6 -- usually start at 6 or 7 years old
3 years of Middle School (Secondary Education) -- Grades 7-9 -- usually 13-15 years old (some 16 y.o.)
3 years of High School (also confusingly a part of Secondary Education) -- Grades 10 -12 usually 16 - 18 years old (some 19 y. o.)
***I went to lunch before posting so it might be a bit late in the thread.***
by ArenaC » Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:23 pm
by Nouveau Yathrib » Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:51 pm
by Narland » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:12 pm
Ghost Land wrote:Narland wrote:Most American Public Schools:
Schools with a Junior High
6 years of Elementary School (Primary Education) -- Grades 1-6 -- usually start at 6 or 7 years old (kids born in November and December)
2 years of Junior High School (Secondary Education) -- Grades 7-8 -- usually 13-14 years old (some 15 y.o.)
4 years of High School (also confusingly a part of Secondary Education) -- Grades 9 -12 usually 15 - 18 years old (some 19 y. o.)
Schools with a Middle School
6 years of Elementary School (Primary Education) -- Grades 1-6 -- usually start at 6 or 7 years old
3 years of Middle School (Secondary Education) -- Grades 7-9 -- usually 13-15 years old (some 16 y.o.)
3 years of High School (also confusingly a part of Secondary Education) -- Grades 10 -12 usually 16 - 18 years old (some 19 y. o.)
***I went to lunch before posting so it might be a bit late in the thread.***
You forgot kindergarten.
Elementary school: K-4, K-5, or K-6
Junior high school or middle school: 5-8, 6-8, 7-8, or 7-9
High school: 9-12 or 10-12
Sometimes there's an intermediate (5th-6th or 6th only), but this is not the norm.
Idaho is relatively anti-K. We only have 17 schools that support it mostly in Boise and Hailey, where a lot of Californians moved.
I was in elementary school from kindergarten through fifth grade, middle school from sixth through eighth, and high school from ninth through twelfth, and this is typical. Students at my middle school were 11-14 years old, in accordance with that grade level range; in high school we were 14-18 years old.
by Purple Rats » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:47 pm
Narland wrote:Yeah. I try to forget K. It was one the the worst wastes of a month of my life. Thankfully I got kicked out for coloring everything except the balloons red. I thought coloring everything their natural colors (as close as one can get with a crayon) looked better, and more interesting while the balloons remained cheap paper beige. I was tagged: fails to follow instructions. LOL.
Narland wrote:Kindergarten taught me to that Kindergarten teachers are control freaks who try to bribe kids with num-mums and playtime so they can socially control their behaviour into arbitrarily derived "norms" that they cannot articulate or structure into a reasonable argument.
by Thermodolia » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:57 pm
by Forsher » Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:50 pm
Cekoviu wrote:The Free Joy State wrote:It would depend on the individual child (their needs, their maturity).
For most children, when they're going into high school (so 11/12, depending on the country) would be an appropriate time to give them an inexpensive, sturdy phone (one where it wouldn't matter too much if it got broken or lost) so they can stay in touch while out with or going to be late or ask permission to go to a friend's house after school.
Some children -- for example, children who have to travel long distances to school at a younger age or children with some medical conditions -- may require a (very) basic phone several years younger.
All-singing, all-dancing phones that can download the greatest hits, do your taxes and tell you the current temperature on the opposite side of the Moon... I think teenagers should save up their allowance money (and birthday/Christmas money) and buy them for themselves.
er, high school at 11/12?
by Major-Tom » Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:53 pm
by Forsher » Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:57 pm
Major-Tom wrote:I had a flip phone until I was, say, 15? I've had the same IPhone now for, jesus, 5 or 6 years, and it's perfect. I'd say, really, whenever the kid is mature enough for the smartphone (and if it's financially viable for the parents), then that's the time. Some thirteen year olds probably can handle the responsibility, others definitely can't.
by Trollgaard » Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:58 pm
Narland wrote:Most American Public Schools:
Schools with a Junior High
6 years of Elementary School (Primary Education) -- Grades 1-6 -- usually start at 6 or 7 years old (kids born in November and December)
2 years of Junior High School (Secondary Education) -- Grades 7-8 -- usually 13-14 years old (some 15 y.o.)
4 years of High School (also confusingly a part of Secondary Education) -- Grades 9 -12 usually 15 - 18 years old (some 19 y. o.)
Schools with a Middle School
6 years of Elementary School (Primary Education) -- Grades 1-6 -- usually start at 6 or 7 years old
3 years of Middle School (Secondary Education) -- Grades 7-9 -- usually 13-15 years old (some 16 y.o.)
3 years of High School (also confusingly a part of Secondary Education) -- Grades 10 -12 usually 16 - 18 years old (some 19 y. o.)
***I went to lunch before posting so it might be a bit late in the thread.***
by Major-Tom » Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:59 pm
Forsher wrote:Major-Tom wrote:I had a flip phone until I was, say, 15? I've had the same IPhone now for, jesus, 5 or 6 years, and it's perfect. I'd say, really, whenever the kid is mature enough for the smartphone (and if it's financially viable for the parents), then that's the time. Some thirteen year olds probably can handle the responsibility, others definitely can't.
You can get entirely functional smartphones for $100 NZ. While, in many cases, this is an enormous sum (even overseas in better paying countries with lower costs of living) I get the feeling you're assuming iPhones are a representative price for smartphones instead of being 5 to 10 times more expensive than they have any right to be. Or am I just looking for an opportunity to criticise Apple?
by Forsher » Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:04 pm
Major-Tom wrote:Forsher wrote:
You can get entirely functional smartphones for $100 NZ. While, in many cases, this is an enormous sum (even overseas in better paying countries with lower costs of living) I get the feeling you're assuming iPhones are a representative price for smartphones instead of being 5 to 10 times more expensive than they have any right to be. Or am I just looking for an opportunity to criticise Apple?
You're correct and also looking for an excuse to criticize Apple. Samsung makes some stellar and more affordable products, ditto for Motorola and other companies, though I'm just familiar with the IPhone overall, and that familiarity will probably lead me to upgrade to another one once my IPhone6 decides to finally die on me.
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