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by Nouveau Quebecois » Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:43 pm
Heloin wrote:Over the right shoulder.
by Neanderthaland » Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:49 pm
by New haven america » Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:58 pm
by Narland » Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:59 pm
Idzequitch wrote:Belts. They're long narrow strips of material, often made of leather, that wrap around the waist and clasp together in the front to complete the loop. When utilized correctly, belts help you keep your pants on your person, and avoid inadvertently displaying any undergarments or pieces of your anatomy that your pants normally conceal. Truly, belts are a staple of any pants-wearing society. (Some of us tried allowing our pants to start falling off, or sagging, circa 2010, but we've mostly come back to our senses as a society since then).
Now my question for you, oh wise belt wearers of NSG, stems from an encounter I had with my elderly grandfather. He, unfortunately, suffers from dementia, and he required assistance putting his belt on. My father and I both came to help, but being young and spry as I am, I arrived first. I began putting my grandfather's belt on just as I would my own belt: through the first loop to the right of the pants button, around his right hip, back behind, over to the left hip, and back to the front, essentially in a clockwise direction around his waist.
This perplexed my father greatly, who claimed that since my grandfather is right-handed, that his belt should start from his left side and loop around in a counter-clockwise direction. But I protested, because I also am right-handed, and have always gone clockwise.
So, NSG, although wearing pants is optional when posting to the forums, I come to you, trusting you to resolve this dispute between my father and I: What is the correct way to put on your belt?
by Nouveau Quebecois » Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:59 pm
New haven america wrote:Unless you actually need to be wearing a belt you should not wear a belt because belts are useless.
by Purpelia » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:09 pm
Katganistan wrote:You do also need to wash or dry clean pants occasionally too?!
by Kathol Rift » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:10 pm
Narland wrote:***What Narland was taught Hygiene class (the part about dressing oneself) at grammar school***
Appx 90% of the population are right-handed. Putting on accessories right handed shows that you did it yourself. Tying knots, bows, putting on belts (things that have chirality) are an indicator of if you are capable enough to dress yourself. As a leftie, I was kind of put off by this, and had to be told to put my belt on "proper" -- threading my belt right-handedly.
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I grew up on a ranch as a cowboy, and we wear relatively thick and wide belts, and do contorting labor. The cured leather stretches unevenly to the grain. We were taught to regularly change the chirality of the belt so the belt would wear (stretch) evenly. Blue jeans and a work belt were to be treated different than slacks and a dress belt which one changed into (after working hours or) especially when going into town. When wearing one's best work (cowboy) clothes at the Rodeo, the belt buckle (for show, a pancake size Silver Dollar) would be upside down if put on left-handed, so we would put it on right handed on that occasion. (But since a Cowboy belt can unsnap to put on a different buckle (even upside down if one desired), I suppose it shouldn't have mattered.)
Your father made an astute observation that is no longer taught as a matter of course in the public schools. Threading the belt with right handed chirality to the viewpoint of the wearer allows him the dignity of the appearance of being able to dress himself. Contemporary society may not notice, but the WW2 generation will notice.
by Elgomeria v2 » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:13 pm
by Narland » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:24 pm
Kathol Rift wrote:Narland wrote:***What Narland was taught Hygiene class (the part about dressing oneself) at grammar school***
Appx 90% of the population are right-handed. Putting on accessories right handed shows that you did it yourself. Tying knots, bows, putting on belts (things that have chirality) are an indicator of if you are capable enough to dress yourself. As a leftie, I was kind of put off by this, and had to be told to put my belt on "proper" -- threading my belt right-handedly.
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I grew up on a ranch as a cowboy, and we wear relatively thick and wide belts, and do contorting labor. The cured leather stretches unevenly to the grain. We were taught to regularly change the chirality of the belt so the belt would wear (stretch) evenly. Blue jeans and a work belt were to be treated different than slacks and a dress belt which one changed into (after working hours or) especially when going into town. When wearing one's best work (cowboy) clothes at the Rodeo, the belt buckle (for show, a pancake size Silver Dollar) would be upside down if put on left-handed, so we would put it on right handed on that occasion. (But since a Cowboy belt can unsnap to put on a different buckle (even upside down if one desired), I suppose it shouldn't have mattered.)
Your father made an astute observation that is no longer taught as a matter of course in the public schools. Threading the belt with right handed chirality to the viewpoint of the wearer allows him the dignity of the appearance of being able to dress himself. Contemporary society may not notice, but the WW2 generation will notice.
Ah, a fellow cowboy.
I really have nothing else to add to this, I just wanted to acknowledge a fellow cowboy.
by Cekoviu » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:52 pm
Narland wrote:Kathol Rift wrote:Ah, a fellow cowboy.
I really have nothing else to add to this, I just wanted to acknowledge a fellow cowboy.
Thank you.
May you never have to tighten your belt in another notch while waiting for the next auction; and may you find a woman who recognizes you for who you are, not just for your horse.
by Narland » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:58 pm
by Kathol Rift » Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:31 pm
Narland wrote:Cekoviu wrote:Is that a euphemism?
Just a toast (technically, two toasts) -- one that he may not go hungry until the cattle get to auction. Cattle, cattle everywhere and not a steak to eat! And the other one for personal happiness. Having a female friend because she likes it that you have horses, is one thing, but having a woman who loves you for who you are is all the difference.
by Thermodolia » Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:48 pm
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:18 pm
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:19 pm
New haven america wrote:Unless you actually need to be wearing a belt you should not wear a belt because belts are useless and needless obstructions.
by Pax Nerdvana » Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:25 pm
by UniversalCommons » Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:34 pm
by Albrenia » Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:36 pm
UniversalCommons wrote:After you put it on your forehead, you take another one and loop it under your left armpit and over your right shoulder, then hang things from it.
by Pax Nerdvana » Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:47 pm
UniversalCommons wrote:After you put it on your forehead, you take another one and loop it under your left armpit and over your right shoulder, then hang things from it.
by Forsher » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:13 pm
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:28 pm
Forsher wrote:Being essentially anti-trousers, I rarely use a belt. When I do, I go clockwise. Although, usually, I put the belt on the trousers, roll the trousers up and change later on in order to minimise the time wearing the, incredibly impractical, trousers.
Now, in principle, there are lots of shorts that are designed to be worn with trousers, but these are typically more expensive than the old elastic waistband requirement and so...
n.b. Forsher lives in a mild climate that tends to alternate between sunny and wet (think London but full of hills, much much wetter and much much sunnier... so nothing like London at all). Trousers thus have a tendency to induce overheating and wet legs in the same day. I am not particularly successful at convincing people of the folly of trousers, but they agree that wet legs are a worthy enemy.
by New haven america » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:33 pm
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