2020 US General Election Thread VI: Covid for VP!

[Gormwood]

Trying to guilt me into voting for Biden because "the progressives will get their turn later" or the like is just the same line fed to me in 2016. Guess what? They never get their turn.

You still haven't defined what you mean by "progressive."

Democratic socialism or lefter apparently.

[San Lumen]

Trying to guilt me into voting for Biden because "the progressives will get their turn later" or the like is just the same line fed to me in 2016. Guess what? They never get their turn.

People voted and chose differently. It’s going to put politics aside and unite the party and take out Trump

[Galloism]

Tbh, I just can't bring myself to vote for one egregious sexist over another. I swallowed my principles and did that last time, but I don't think I can do that again. It tasted really bad, and didn't matter in the end anyway.

Hillary Clinton was a sexist?

Yes.

Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat.

[Cisairse]

You still haven't defined what you mean by "progressive."

Democratic socialism or lefter apparently.

Thinking emoji

[Cisairse]

Hillary Clinton was a sexist?

Yes.

Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat.

Alright, good point.

[Penguin Union Nation]

Trying to guilt me into voting for Biden because "the progressives will get their turn later" or the like is just the same line fed to me in 2016. Guess what? They never get their turn.

You still haven't defined what you mean by "progressive."

Single payer healthcare, Green New Deal, college debt cancellation, housing for all, medical debt cancellation, etc. Bernie's platform.

It’s going to put politics aside and unite the party and take out Trump

Then in four more years it'll be time to unite behind some other inoffensive centrist corporatist warmonger to beat some other right wing demagogue. Then four more years later, the same. I'm sensing a pattern here.

[Genivaria]

And gifting the world four more years of Trump in the process, betraying those beliefs in doing so.

Tbh, I just can't bring myself to vote for one egregious sexist over another. I swallowed my principles and did that last time, but I don't think I can do that again. It tasted really bad, and didn't matter in the end anyway.

Well I can't say I actually voted for Hillary but I did show up only to be told that I needed a voter card (which I never received despite confirming my registration 6 months prior).

Not that it mattered in the end.

[Genivaria]

You still haven't defined what you mean by "progressive."

Single payer healthcare, Green New Deal, college debt cancellation, housing for all, medical debt cancellation, etc. Bernie's platform.

Also the right of Unions to collectively bargain.

[Cisairse]

You still haven't defined what you mean by "progressive."

Single payer healthcare, Green New Deal, college debt cancellation, housing for all, medical debt cancellation, etc. Bernie's platform.

Oh, so you're just labeling whatever Bernie supports as "progressive." Got it.

You may be surprised to learn that that is not what that term means, and that Obama himself was a progressive in 2008 who enacted a progressive agenda during his first two years in office.

[Kowani]

Howie Hawkins 2020?

[Cisairse]

Single payer healthcare, Green New Deal, college debt cancellation, housing for all, medical debt cancellation, etc. Bernie's platform.

Also the right of Unions to collectively bargain.

There are literally 0 candidates in the Democratic Party who don't support that

[Galloism]

Yes.

Alright, good point.

Yeah.

Not to mention Biden actually has a history of pushing for sexist policy as a federal platform.

The "Dear Colleague" bullshit was his brainchild, so I'm led to believe.

[Penguin Union Nation]

You may be surprised to learn that that is not what that term means, and that Obama himself was a progressive in 2008 who enacted a progressive agenda during his first two years in office.

Bombing all those innocent children overseas, torture, and giving tons of money to corporations was real progressive, I tell you.

[Genivaria]

Trying to guilt me into voting for Biden because "the progressives will get their turn later" or the like is just the same line fed to me in 2016. Guess what? They never get their turn.

People voted and chose differently. It’s going to put politics aside and unite the party and take out Trump

Again, hilarious that the Party first crowd who tell the rest of us to shut up and support their candidate have the nerve to invoke 'party unity'.

In the end the DNC was more concerned about preserving the Democracy status quo than beating Trump.

[The Black Forrest]

Which is why Al Franken is still Minnesota Senator.

The Pictures likely did him in.

I saw that picture. Looked like a retarded college prank. He did the honorable thing versus our President who SCREAMS fake news every chance he can .....

[Cisairse]

You may be surprised to learn that that is not what that term means, and that Obama himself was a progressive in 2008 who enacted a progressive agenda during his first two years in office.

Bombing all those innocent children overseas, torture, and giving tons of money to corporations was real progressive, I tell you.

You didn't list the complement to any of those policies in your definition of progressive.

[Shrillland]

You may be surprised to learn that that is not what that term means, and that Obama himself was a progressive in 2008 who enacted a progressive agenda during his first two years in office.

Bombing all those innocent children overseas, torture, and giving tons of money to corporations was real progressive, I tell you.

No, that's just how superpowers keep their prestige. No nation ever became one by taking the moral high ground.

[Greed and Death]

Single payer healthcare, Green New Deal, college debt cancellation, housing for all, medical debt cancellation, etc. Bernie's platform.

Also the right of Unions to collectively bargain.

Y'all already have that. What we need is right to work. Telling workers after you form a union pay 90% of the cost of joining the union or be unemployed is not a choice.

[Everhall]

You still haven't defined what you mean by "progressive."

Single payer healthcare, Green New Deal, college debt cancellation, housing for all, medical debt cancellation, etc. Bernie's platform.

It’s going to put politics aside and unite the party and take out Trump

Then in four more years it'll be time to unite behind some other inoffensive centrist corporatist warmonger to beat some other right wing demagogue. Then four more years later, the same. I'm sensing a pattern here.

If you have one poison in a dish that causes you discomfort and a sense of uselessness in your choice and another poison that will kill you, which one do you choose? Keep in mind, not choosing any will result in the latter being automatically chosen.

[Penguin Union Nation]

Bombing all those innocent children overseas, torture, and giving tons of money to corporations was real progressive, I tell you.

No, that's just how superpowers keep their prestige. No nation ever became one by taking the moral high ground.

No nation deserves to exist if it doesn't at least try to take that high ground. Nations should be obliterated if they can't have basic humanity.

[Kargintina the Third]

People voted and chose differently. It’s going to put politics aside and unite the party and take out Trump

Again, hilarious that the Party first crowd who tell the rest of us to shut up and support their candidate have the nerve to invoke 'party unity'.

In the end the DNC was more concerned about preserving the Democracy status quo than beating Trump.

Just write him in dude

[Vassenor]

People voted and chose differently. It’s going to put politics aside and unite the party and take out Trump

Again, hilarious that the Party first crowd who tell the rest of us to shut up and support their candidate have the nerve to invoke 'party unity'.

In the end the DNC was more concerned about preserving the Democracy status quo than beating Trump.

So what makes Biden incapable of beating Trump?

[Shrillland]

Also the right of Unions to collectively bargain.

Y'all already have that. What we need is right to work. Telling workers after you form a union pay 90% of the cost of joining the union or be unemployed is not a choice.

Without ensuring that all members pay their dues, it becomes impossible for a union to fund the efforts needed to ensure that they can collectively bargain.

[Greed and Death]

Y'all already have that. What we need is right to work. Telling workers after you form a union pay 90% of the cost of joining the union or be unemployed is not a choice.

Without ensuring that all members pay their dues, it becomes impossible for a union to fund the efforts needed to ensure that they can collectively bargain.

Unions did not cease to exist in right to work states so your assertion is counter factual.

[Shrillland]

No, that's just how superpowers keep their prestige. No nation ever became one by taking the moral high ground.

No nation deserves to exist if it doesn't at least try to take that high ground. Nations should be obliterated if they can't have basic humanity.

And yet, the ones that don't have it tend to be the powerful ones. Bear in mind, I'm not a fan of these things either, but diplomacy and foreign affairs are amoral creatures that only respect what they see as strength. Not even actual strength, just what is perceived as such.