2020 US General Election Thread VI: Covid for VP!

[Vassenor]

I'm starting to think the democrats in this thread care more about Sanders losing than defeating Trump.

Based on what?

[Loben The 2nd]

I'm not choosing between two rapist warmongers for President. It's just not going to happen. I know I said a while ago I'd pick Biden if just for the Supreme Court, but since all those allegations came out, it pushed me over the edge on this.

The worst thing is, a great man like Bernie Sanders has been fighting for the little guy for his entire life and many people are too blinded by their team politics to see what a great loss this is to democracy and the country at large. Perhaps one day we'll all see that he was correct all along. And maybe by then it won't be too late.

Even if Bernie himself tells me to vote for Joe Biden, I still won't.

There are other options.

[Gormwood]

Biden will be decimated by Trump. Sanders meanwhile will continue to work for the American people especially in this time of crisis. Needless to say, Sanders has achieved more than Biden ever will.

And you base this on what evidence?

Internet memes. Like the ones that guaranteed a Ron Paul presidency.

[Everhall]

Frankly, I'm a little pissed too that is wasn't Sanders who ultimately got the nomination (primarily because Biden has many glaring flaws and would likely lose to Trump in the General Election), but It isn't time to admit defeat. The most glaring issue that must motivate Democrats and the Left going into 2020 should be the Supreme Court and specifically RBG. Healthcare, the Environment, and the Minimum Wage are all important, but we cannot allow a 6-3 Conservative Majority to exist on the Supreme Court. That more than anything will stifle the Progressive Movement for decades to come.

[Gormwood]

I'm not choosing between two rapist warmongers for President. It's just not going to happen. I know I said a while ago I'd pick Biden if just for the Supreme Court, but since all those allegations came out, it pushed me over the edge on this.

The worst thing is, a great man like Bernie Sanders has been fighting for the little guy for his entire life and many people are too blinded by their team politics to see what a great loss this is to democracy and the country at large. Perhaps one day we'll all see that he was correct all along. And maybe by then it won't be too late.

Even if Bernie himself tells me to vote for Joe Biden, I still won't.

So you're Bernier Than Thou. Good to know. At least you get to feel good about yourself as a second Trump term irreversibly destroys the country.

[San Lumen]

I'm not choosing between two rapist warmongers for President. It's just not going to happen. I know I said a while ago I'd pick Biden if just for the Supreme Court, but since all those allegations came out, it pushed me over the edge on this.

The worst thing is, a great man like Bernie Sanders has been fighting for the little guy for his entire life and many people are too blinded by their team politics to see what a great loss this is to democracy and the country at large. Perhaps one day we'll all see that he was correct all along. And maybe by then it won't be too late.

Even if Bernie himself tells me to vote for Joe Biden, I still won't.

Enjoy Trumps second term then

[Penguin Union Nation]

It won't be my fault if Trump wins again. It'll be the fault of the Democratic Party and the voters for not elevating a better candidate. Nobody is OWED my vote. The blood is on the hands of the people who could have chosen better to start with.

If you can't see how "lesser of two evils" is destroying democracy itself, you shouldn't even be allowed to vote.

[Valrifell]

I'm starting to think the democrats in this thread care more about Sanders losing than defeating Trump.

Literally nobody has celebrated Sanders losing, if there were there are more examples of them lamenting that Sanders lost, but okay.

[San Lumen]

It won't be my fault if Trump wins again. It'll be the fault of the Democratic Party and the voters for not elevating a better candidate. Nobody is OWED my vote. The blood is on the hands of the people who could have chosen better to start with.

Yeah how dare people chose a different candidate then you

[Vassenor]

It won't be my fault if Trump wins again. It'll be the fault of the Democratic Party and the voters for not elevating a better candidate. Nobody is OWED my vote. The blood is on the hands of the people who could have chosen better to start with.

Are you sure about that?

[Juristonia]

It won't be my fault if Trump wins again. It'll be the fault of the Democratic Party and the voters for not elevating a better candidate. Nobody is OWED my vote. The blood is on the hands of the people who could have chosen better to start with.

Get ready for the usual suspects to tell you over and over again that it totally is your personal fault though.
But don't worry. They only did that for 4 years after Clinton lost, so like, it'll stop some day, probably.

[The Wiccan Israel]

Biden will be decimated by Trump. Sanders meanwhile will continue to work for the American people especially in this time of crisis. Needless to say, Sanders has achieved more than Biden ever will.

And you base this on what evidence?

Mainly on the lack of enthusiasm among Biden’s voterbase.

Besides, if he can hardly defend himself against Bernie Sanders in the Democratic debates, how can he possibly handle Trump?

[Pilipinas and Malaya]

Welp I'm looking for another party to join.

I really hope the US does away with the whole two-party system.

[Penguin Union Nation]

So you're Bernier Than Thou. Good to know. At least you get to feel good about yourself as a second Trump term irreversibly destroys the country.

The country is already destroyed if your hope to restore it is Joseph R. Biden, rapist at large.

[Juristonia]

It won't be my fault if Trump wins again. It'll be the fault of the Democratic Party and the voters for not elevating a better candidate. Nobody is OWED my vote. The blood is on the hands of the people who could have chosen better to start with.

Yeah how dare people chose a different candidate then you

You're criticising him for doing the same damn thing.
Not choosing the candidate you want them to choose.

[Valrifell]

Welp I'm looking for another party to join.

I really hope the US does away with the whole two-party system.

The electoral processes of the US encourage two big-tents and discourage smaller parties splintering.

[San Lumen]

Yeah how dare people chose a different candidate then you

You're criticising him for doing the same damn thing.
Not choosing the candidate you want them to choose.

How am I doing that? If Sanders was the presumptive nominee he’d have my vote. Any democrats will on Election Day

[Gormwood]

So you're Bernier Than Thou. Good to know. At least you get to feel good about yourself as a second Trump term irreversibly destroys the country.

The country is already destroyed if your hope to restore it is Joseph R. Biden, rapist at large.

But Trump is completely innocent of all those sexual assault charges and you're happy to let him continue another term.

[Greed and Death]

The country is already destroyed if your hope to restore it is Joseph R. Biden, rapist at large.

But Trump is completely innocent of all those sexual assault charges and you're happy to let him continue another term.

Democratic party official policy. Believe all women, unless they accuse a Democratic party politician.

[Juristonia]

How am I doing that? If Sanders was the presumptive nominee he’d have my vote. Any democrats will on Election Day

By accusing him of being responsible for a Trump win due to not supporting your preferred candidate, as you have many times before.

[Vassenor]

But Trump is completely innocent of all those sexual assault charges and you're happy to let him continue another term.

Democratic party official policy. Believe all women, unless they accuse a Democratic party politician.

You're getting straw on the carpet again.

[Cisairse]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Bernie can't drop out before Nate Silver has his general election prediction model up nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
what will I do with my free time nooooooooooooo

[Genivaria]

I feel a dark amusement that the Party before Principals crowd is trying to browbeat Bernie supporters about unity.

And when Biden inevitably loses they'll blame Bernie supporters instead of their ignoramus of a candidate.

[San Lumen]

How am I doing that? If Sanders was the presumptive nominee he’d have my vote. Any democrats will on Election Day

By accusing him of being responsible for a Trump win due to not supporting your preferred candidate, as you have many times before.

Not voting is how Trump won in the first place

[Zurkerx]

Ah, so he finally dropped out. While he hasn't endorsed Biden, I suspect he will soon, once they come to an agreement on platform; Sanders will have great influence on that. Ultimately, it's up to Sanders' Supporters whether they want to back Biden or not, but Biden needs to earn their vote. How he does that, I'm not totally sure. As an outsider here, however, I would strongly recommend it given Biden is better than Trump by miles despite his flaws.

And you base this on what evidence?

Mainly on the lack of enthusiasm among Biden’s voterbase.

Besides, if he can hardly defend himself against Bernie Sanders in the Democratic debates, how can he possibly handle Trump?

He actually did well in the last debate he had: Biden does best when it's a one-on-one, and that debate showed it. Of course, people that favor Sanders heavily won't see it that way due to bias while Biden Supporters believe he did excellent (me personally, I give it a tie), but Biden and Sanders held their ground on their respective views.

So you're Bernier Than Thou. Good to know. At least you get to feel good about yourself as a second Trump term irreversibly destroys the country.

The country is already destroyed if your hope to restore it is Joseph R. Biden, rapist at large.

Reminder people are innocent until proven guilty. I've always held said accusations with a grain of salt: people do make up things (as one of my friends was accused only to learn they were false). The burden of prove needs to be proven on both sides and until I see sufficient evidence from both, it's a he-said, she-said deal. The fact Sanders hasn't even attacked Biden on said allegations should tell us something.