2020 US General Election Thread VI: Covid for VP!

[Aureumterra]

Statistical models are based on societal norms.
Donald Trump's presidency is, at best, abnormal.

It's the most abnormal. Whether people think he's the best President, worst President, somewhere in between, he defies the statistical norms of a Presidency and the norms of public perception in such a bizarre way. The second he hit office, it was abundantly clear that few people would ever change their minds about this guy.

It’s nearly impossible for Trump to be the worst president simply because Buchanan existed

[Shrillland]

It's the most abnormal. Whether people think he's the best President, worst President, somewhere in between, he defies the statistical norms of a Presidency and the norms of public perception in such a bizarre way. The second he hit office, it was abundantly clear that few people would ever change their minds about this guy.

It’s nearly impossible for Trump to be the worst president simply because Buchanan existed

For me the title still belongs to Jackson. No other president intentionally committed genocide.

[Cisairse]

We all forgetting Hoover?

[Shrillland]

We all forgetting Hoover?

Again, Hoover wrecked the economy and his time outside the presidency offsets some of that. There's no offsetting ignoring the Supreme Court and ejecting thousands to Oklahoma just because you want them dead.

[Gormwood]

We all forgetting Hoover?

Shouldn't be long before we have Trumpvilles springing up all over the nation.

[Cisairse]

We all forgetting Hoover?

Again, Hoover wrecked the economy and his time outside the presidency offsets some of that. There's no offsetting ignoring the Supreme Court and ejecting thousands to Oklahoma just because you want them dead.

I'd need to see some numbers before I'm ready to say that Jackson's death count was higher than Hoover's.

[Northern Davincia]

We all forgetting Hoover?

Hoover is unfairly blamed for something that was largely outside of his control.

[Cisairse]

We all forgetting Hoover?

Hoover is unfairly blamed for something that was largely outside of his control.

There's nothing inherent about FDR that made him able to do things that Hoover could not. And yet, the quality of life for the average American rose profoundly under FDR specifically because of measures FDR championed.

[Kowani]

We all forgetting Hoover?

Hoover is unfairly blamed for something that was largely outside of his control.

That’s an oversimplification. The Depression was out of his control, but his response was a disaster.

Coolidge, on the other hand...

[Cisairse]

Hoover is unfairly blamed for something that was largely outside of his control.

That’s an oversimplification. The Depression was out of his control, but his response was a disaster.

Coolidge, on the other hand...

Coolidge was a good leader. His policy goals certainly contributed to the depression, but it's not like the depression was his fault or that he was a bad president overall.

Especially compared to presidents who have the blood of thousands of Americans on their hands.

[Telconi]

Who’s doing the suppression this time?

Yes, there are some GOP measures, but the far bigger culprit right now is a tiny microscopic protein surrounded with fat and a crown of sorts.

You mean MAGAvirus?

[Shrillland]

Yes, there are some GOP measures, but the far bigger culprit right now is a tiny microscopic protein surrounded with fat and a crown of sorts.

You mean MAGAvirus?

No, just Covid and a refusal to allow voting by mail. MAGAvirus doesn't have the same symptoms. You show me any other disease where your tongue turns mannered taupe and you develop eyeorrhoea.

[Telconi]

You mean MAGAvirus?

No, just Covid and a refusal to allow voting by mail. MAGAvirus doesn't have the same symptoms. You show me any other disease where your tongue turns mannered taupe and you develop eyeorrhoea.

I can understand the objection to sudden changes in voting procedures. Although vote-by-mail would probably generate the greatest turnout at this time.

[Shrillland]

No, just Covid and a refusal to allow voting by mail. MAGAvirus doesn't have the same symptoms. You show me any other disease where your tongue turns mannered taupe and you develop eyeorrhoea.

I can understand the objection to sudden changes in voting procedures. Although vote-by-mail would probably generate the greatest turnout at this time.

Me too, but plenty of other states have made the switch, or will likely make the switch, and so far we haven't seen any issues in places like Ohio, for example.

[Telconi]

I can understand the objection to sudden changes in voting procedures. Although vote-by-mail would probably generate the greatest turnout at this time.

Me too, but plenty of other states have made the switch and so far we haven't seen any issues in places like Ohio, for example.

Wisconsin is likely rejecting it for political reasons not functional reasons.

[Shrillland]

Me too, but plenty of other states have made the switch and so far we haven't seen any issues in places like Ohio, for example.

Wisconsin is likely rejecting it for political reasons not functional reasons.

So it appears, I'm afraid.

[Northern Davincia]

Hoover is unfairly blamed for something that was largely outside of his control.

There's nothing inherent about FDR that made him able to do things that Hoover could not. And yet, the quality of life for the average American rose profoundly under FDR specifically because of measures FDR championed.

FDR prolonged the Depression and botched the response so badly that another recession occurred in 1937.

Hoover is unfairly blamed for something that was largely outside of his control.

That’s an oversimplification. The Depression was out of his control, but his response was a disaster.

Coolidge, on the other hand...

Coolidge did nothing wrong.

[Vassenor]

Me too, but plenty of other states have made the switch and so far we haven't seen any issues in places like Ohio, for example.

Wisconsin is likely rejecting it for political reasons not functional reasons.

Like Trump said, making it easier for eligible people to vote will only harm the GOP.

[Telconi]

Wisconsin is likely rejecting it for political reasons not functional reasons.

Like Trump said, making it easier for eligible people to vote will only harm the GOP.

Yes, and?

[Kowani]

There's nothing inherent about FDR that made him able to do things that Hoover could not. And yet, the quality of life for the average American rose profoundly under FDR specifically because of measures FDR championed.

FDR prolonged the Depression and botched the response so badly that another recession occurred in 1937.

This is what’s called an oversimplification to the point of lying.
You see, the recession of 1937 happened under FDR-because he started listening to the free-marketeers and small government types, and instituted autarky. When he stopped listening to them, the second recession ended. Would you like t’try again?

[South Odreria 2]

The great depression was bad.

[Northern Davincia]

FDR prolonged the Depression and botched the response so badly that another recession occurred in 1937.

This is what’s called an oversimplification to the point of lying.
You see, the recession of 1937 happened under FDR-because he started listening to the free-marketeers and small government types, and instituted autarky. When he stopped listening to them, the second recession ended. Would you like t’try again?

Meddling in the market is not exactly listening to free-marketeers. Causation and correlation tend to be separate things.

[Cisairse]

The great depression was bad.

I agree.

[Northern Davincia]

The great depression was bad.

I agree.

Let us pursue accelerationism to the max.

[Jerzylvania]

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