2020 US General Election Thread VI: Covid for VP!

[Corrian]

Her record includes the delightful action of locking people up for their kid's truancy, and standing against criminal justice reform, these are not good things.

But the people that care about stuff like this, the people who are preoccupied with judicial reform, aren't the ones that really matter here. To win, Biden needs to shore up support among the blue-collar workers in states like Michigan that Obama won but Clinton lost. Those people don't really care that Harris was a particularly harsh prosecutor. What Biden does need is a young, enthusiastic, well-spoken woman with national name recognition. Kamala Harris is one of few in that field.

Plus, anything can be given a spin. She was just a strong prosecutor with a history of bringing criminals to justice or what have you. Her being an aggressive prosecutor is just going to turn off progressives who won't really be that important a demographic come election. African Americans and other minorities will, however.

Harris isn't going to help freaking win the Midwest. If anything she'd be a detriment to taking back the Midwest.

[Aureumterra]

Donald Trump set to fall back on xenophobia with re-election plan in tatters

Based on the article, it seems he was counting on a Sanders victory in the primaries?

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

He has, which why I don't understand why people want to vote for him. Breaking America into sects rather than uniting people is never a good policy.

America is already broken, pretending otherwise is a trash idea.

America was already broken. Fascists tricked you all into thinking America used to be unified...

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

Her record includes the delightful action of locking people up for their kid's truancy, and standing against criminal justice reform, these are not good things.

But the people that care about stuff like this, the people who are preoccupied with judicial reform, aren't the ones that really matter here. To win, Biden needs to shore up support among the blue-collar workers in states like Michigan that Obama won but Clinton lost. Those people don't really care that Harris was a particularly harsh prosecutor. What Biden does need is a young, enthusiastic, well-spoken woman with national name recognition. Kamala Harris is one of few in that field.

Plus, anything can be given a spin. She was just a strong prosecutor with a history of bringing criminals to justice or what have you. Her being an aggressive prosecutor is just going to turn off progressives who won't really be that important a demographic come election. African Americans and other minorities will, however.

You say progressives aren't important, then you'll whine when we vote Hawkins.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

I would say there are voters who are reluctantly for him or would consider him who would actually change their mind if he selected Harris as his VP. For example, I'm still open to the possibility of voting for him, depending on how his work with Sanders goes or who he picks as VP, but picking Harris would 100% guarantee I'd never vote for him.

You are in the minority. The majority of independents are swinging between Biden and Trump. The majority of these people are moderates who would not have a problem with a candidate who is tough on crime. A lot of Americans across the board are partial to that ideology. I'm sorry to say it but progressives who are concerned about her criminal justice record don't really matter to the Biden camp because they are not going to be an important demographic in the race. It's literally as simple as that.

How do you know that? Some could be swinging between Amash and Trump, or Amash and Biden, or Hawkins and Biden, or Hawkins and Trump.

You have no evidence of this preposition that independents are moderates. None.

[Gormwood]

Donald Trump set to fall back on xenophobia with re-election plan in tatters

I believe this is an opinion piece but I mean, he's already been doing that.

He's going to say all dark-toned immigrants are CCP operatives trying to spread coronavirus by coughing on Real Muricans?

[Aureumterra]

But the people that care about stuff like this, the people who are preoccupied with judicial reform, aren't the ones that really matter here. To win, Biden needs to shore up support among the blue-collar workers in states like Michigan that Obama won but Clinton lost. Those people don't really care that Harris was a particularly harsh prosecutor. What Biden does need is a young, enthusiastic, well-spoken woman with national name recognition. Kamala Harris is one of few in that field.

Plus, anything can be given a spin. She was just a strong prosecutor with a history of bringing criminals to justice or what have you. Her being an aggressive prosecutor is just going to turn off progressives who won't really be that important a demographic come election. African Americans and other minorities will, however.

You say progressives aren't important, then you'll whine when we vote Hawkins.

Are you still going on with your wishful dream that Hawkins will, in any way, have an impact on the outcome of the election?

[Post War America]

Donald Trump set to fall back on xenophobia with re-election plan in tatters

I believe this is an opinion piece but I mean, he's already been doing that.

He's going to say all dark-toned immigrants are CCP operatives trying to spread coronavirus by coughing on Real Muricans?

I wouldn't be surprised.

[Kannap]

You say progressives aren't important, then you'll whine when we vote Hawkins.

Are you still going on with your wishful dream that Hawkins will, in any way, have an impact on the outcome of the election?

I don't expect him to tip the scale either way but I did get a lecture from somebody elsewhere online yesterday about how by voting for Hawkins I'm contributing to the rise of fascism in America and Europe and helping Trump win.

That was fun.

[Celritannia]

Are you still going on with your wishful dream that Hawkins will, in any way, have an impact on the outcome of the election?

I don't expect him to tip the scale either way but I did get a lecture from somebody elsewhere online yesterday about how by voting for Hawkins I'm contributing to the rise of fascism in America and Europe and helping Trump win.

That was fun.

How exactly would that occur?

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

You say progressives aren't important, then you'll whine when we vote Hawkins.

Are you still going on with your wishful dream that Hawkins will, in any way, have an impact on the outcome of the election?

Jill Stein did.

[Nakena]

People need to get over Bernies defeat.

Unlike in 2016 where Wassermann-Schultz and her Superdelegates rigged it, this time it was fair and square.

And devastating.

Maybe with AOC there will be more luck.

[Kannap]

I don't expect him to tip the scale either way but I did get a lecture from somebody elsewhere online yesterday about how by voting for Hawkins I'm contributing to the rise of fascism in America and Europe and helping Trump win.

That was fun.

How exactly would that occur?

I dunno lol, but any attempts to reason with the person just had them yelling louder at me. Can't tell you how many times they linked me to a website telling me to buy a MAGA hat because I said I wasn't voting Biden.

[Kannap]

People need to get over Bernies defeat.

Unlike in 2016 where Wassermann-Schultz and her Superdelegates rigged it, this time it was fair and square.

And devastating.

Maybe with AOC there will be more luck.

I was disappointed hearing Bernie pulled out for about a couple hours, then I was over it lol. Most people probably got over it and moved on quickly as well.

Don't mistake a dislike of Biden as not getting over Bernie's loss.

[Celritannia]

How exactly would that occur?

I dunno lol, but any attempts to reason with the person just had them yelling louder at me. Can't tell you how many times they linked me to a website telling me to buy a MAGA hat because I said I wasn't voting Biden.

In all honesty, the Green Party has the best policies. It's probably one of the most progressive parties.

[Galloism]

People need to get over Bernies defeat.

Unlike in 2016 where Wassermann-Schultz and her Superdelegates rigged it, this time it was fair and square.

And devastating.

Maybe with AOC there will be more luck.

I was disappointed hearing Bernie pulled out for about a couple hours, then I was over it lol. Most people probably got over it and moved on quickly as well.

Don't mistake a dislike of Biden as not getting over Bernie's loss.

This here. Just because we’re unhappy with another deeply sexist neoliberal doesn’t mean he didn’t win the primary.

[Kannap]

I dunno lol, but any attempts to reason with the person just had them yelling louder at me. Can't tell you how many times they linked me to a website telling me to buy a MAGA hat because I said I wasn't voting Biden.

In all honesty, the Green Party has the best policies. It's probably one of the most progressive parties.

It has great policies and a wonderful platform, which is why I'll probably vote Green in November.

[Kannap]

I was disappointed hearing Bernie pulled out for about a couple hours, then I was over it lol. Most people probably got over it and moved on quickly as well.

Don't mistake a dislike of Biden as not getting over Bernie's loss.

This here. Just because we’re unhappy with another deeply sexist neoliberal doesn’t mean he didn’t win the primary.

It's hard to believe more than one thing can be true at a time, I'm absolutely floored.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

People need to get over Bernies defeat.

Unlike in 2016 where Wassermann-Schultz and her Superdelegates rigged it, this time it was fair and square.

And devastating.

Maybe with AOC there will be more luck.

My opinion is simply "it was rigged in South Carolina and Super Tuesday, oh well...what do you expect?"

[Post War America]

I dunno lol, but any attempts to reason with the person just had them yelling louder at me. Can't tell you how many times they linked me to a website telling me to buy a MAGA hat because I said I wasn't voting Biden.

In all honesty, the Green Party has the best policies. It's probably one of the most progressive parties.

Yes, but if you don't help put a Democrat in office you're a monster because clearly you support the other person who will engage in war crimes, and repeatedly and roughly having their way with the working class.

[Post War America]

People need to get over Bernies defeat.

Unlike in 2016 where Wassermann-Schultz and her Superdelegates rigged it, this time it was fair and square.

And devastating.

Maybe with AOC there will be more luck.

Neither were really rigged, but in both cases there was a considerable amount of putting the thumb on the scale so to speak. Given the relative inexperience of the bulk of Sanders' base, it makes sense that they would be upset at something that's effectively been going on for decades.

[Kannap]

In all honesty, the Green Party has the best policies. It's probably one of the most progressive parties.

Yes, but if you don't help put a Democrat in office you're a monster because clearly you support the other person who will engage in war crimes, and repeatedly and roughly having their way with the working class.

Yeah that's right BUT by not helping the Republican keep his office, I'm a monster because I clearly support the other person who will engage in war crimes and repeatedly and roughly have their way with the working class.

[Post War America]

Yes, but if you don't help put a Democrat in office you're a monster because clearly you support the other person who will engage in war crimes, and repeatedly and roughly having their way with the working class.

Yeah that's right BUT by not helping the Republican keep his office, I'm a monster because I clearly support the other person who will engage in war crimes and repeatedly and roughly have their way with the working class.

Its almost as if the two parties have a vested interest in maintaining the neoliberal status quo.

[Aureumterra]

In all honesty, the Green Party has the best policies. It's probably one of the most progressive parties.

It has great policies and a wonderful platform, which is why I'll probably vote Green in November.

The party seems alright, Jill Stein was an oddball though. Not sure if Hawkins is less weird

[Valrifell]

It has great policies and a wonderful platform, which is why I'll probably vote Green in November.

The party seems alright, Jill Stein was an oddball though. Not sure if Hawkins is less weird

It's hard to be weirder than Jill "WiFi causes cancer" Stein.