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Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:19 am**

Jerzylvania wrote:The Big Question to voters in 2020 - Do you want Trump continuing as the decision maker in the ongoing CoVID-19 pandemic or would you prefer former VP Joe Biden instead?

Why should The response to this pandemic be a defining factor?

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:19 am**

Jerzylvania wrote:The Big Question to voters in 2020 - Do you want Trump continuing as the decision maker in the ongoing CoVID-19 pandemic or would you prefer former VP Joe Biden instead?

That's already been polled. Voters think Obama would do a better job than Trump, but prefer Trump to Biden.

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:21 am**

There is nothing preventing Jimmy Carter from running for a second term and I honestly believe he would win if he made no public unscripted appearances.

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:22 am**

Telconi wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:The Big Question to voters in 2020 - Do you want Trump continuing as the decision maker in the ongoing CoVID-19 pandemic or would you prefer former VP Joe Biden instead?

Why should The response to this pandemic be a defining factor?

BC it's what's happening today, tomorrow and many many months down the road. Pandemic dominates the news.

Ifreann wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
The pandemic will still be ongoing in January 2021. There is predicted several waves infecting various parts of the nation and the world. This isn't going to be an easy virus to rub out.

Can I borrow your crystal ball to check the lottery numbers?

Pandemics typically last between 12 and 36 months which puts it into next year at a minimum, Iffy. But you can use my crystal ball if you like. *hands dusty bowling ball bag*

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/09/cor ... cial-says/

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/p ... demic.html

https://www.womenshealthmag.com/health/ ... virus-end/

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:27 am**

Valrifell wrote:
South Odreria 2 wrote:https://nypost.com/2020/04/10/democrats-want-to-drop-joe-biden-for-andrew-cuomo-poll-finds/
haha, 56 percent of dems want to drop Biden for Cuomo.

Not exactly shocking considering how good Cuomo is looking right now during this pandemic.

But keep in mind: this poll was done by Club for Growth, a Conservative Group so I would take this with a grain of salt. I would also like to see more polling on the subject as well although I feel Cuomo at this given time is not interested President: the party would have to do some gymnastics just to get him to be the nominee.

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:29 am**

Zurkerx wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Not exactly shocking considering how good Cuomo is looking right now during this pandemic.

But keep in mind: this poll was done by Club for Growth, a Conservative Group so I would take this with a grain of salt. I would also like to see more polling on the subject as well although I feel Cuomo at this given time is not interested President: the party would have to do some gymnastics just to get him to be the nominee.

Oh definitely not. He's not interested and I doubt if he ran he would've made it to this point in the first place.

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:29 am**

Jerzylvania wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Why should The response to this pandemic be a defining factor?

BC it's what's happening today, tomorrow and many many months down the road. Pandemic dominates the news.

Ifreann wrote:Can I borrow your crystal ball to check the lottery numbers?

Pandemics typically last between 12 and 36 months which puts it into next year at a minimum, Iffy. But you can use my crystal ball if you like. *hands dusty bowling ball bag*

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/09/cor ... cial-says/

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/p ... demic.html

https://www.womenshealthmag.com/health/ ... virus-end/

Lots of things are happening in addition to this pandemic each and every day.

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:29 am**

Zurkerx wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Not exactly shocking considering how good Cuomo is looking right now during this pandemic.

But keep in mind: this poll was done by Club for Growth, a Conservative Group so I would take this with a grain of salt. I would also like to see more polling on the subject as well although I feel Cuomo at this given time is not interested President: the party would have to do some gymnastics just to get him to be the nominee.

Now if Biden gets ligma and dies before the August Convention I can absolutely see them trying to get Cuomo to take the job.

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:32 am**

Valrifell wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
But keep in mind: this poll was done by Club for Growth, a Conservative Group so I would take this with a grain of salt. I would also like to see more polling on the subject as well although I feel Cuomo at this given time is not interested President: the party would have to do some gymnastics just to get him to be the nominee.

Oh definitely not. He's not interested and I doubt if he ran he would've made it to this point in the first place.

If I recall, Cuomo isn't as popular as some think so yeah.

Cisairse wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
But keep in mind: this poll was done by Club for Growth, a Conservative Group so I would take this with a grain of salt. I would also like to see more polling on the subject as well although I feel Cuomo at this given time is not interested President: the party would have to do some gymnastics just to get him to be the nominee.

Now if Biden gets ligma and dies before the August Convention I can absolutely see them trying to get Cuomo to take the job.

That I could see happen though I feel Sanders people will demand he be the nominee considering he got delegates.

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:32 am**

Telconi wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
BC it's what's happening today, tomorrow and many many months down the road. Pandemic dominates the news.

Pandemics typically last between 12 and 36 months which puts it into next year at a minimum, Iffy. But you can use my crystal ball if you like. *hands dusty bowling ball bag*

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/09/cor ... cial-says/

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/p ... demic.html

https://www.womenshealthmag.com/health/ ... virus-end/

Lots of things are happening in addition to this pandemic each and every day.

Thanks for that news flash. I take it the virus news cycle doesn't involve enough gun news for your pleasures.

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:33 am**

Jerzylvania wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Lots of things are happening in addition to this pandemic each and every day.

Thanks for that news flash. I take it the virus news cycle doesn't involve enough gun news for your pleasures.

Crabby today aren't we?

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:33 am**

Vassenor wrote:
Ifreann wrote:This sentence is gibberish, please reset and try again.

The election is in November and if Biden wins he'll take office in January. Whereas the ongoing pandemic is going on now.

Did you explain why we should believe that Biden is now actually a progressive and isn't just saying what he thinks will get him elected? I might have missed it.

Well given that you think it is totally impossible for politicians to change their views there's no point.

Ifreann wrote:That I don't think that Biden has actually changed his beliefs doesn't mean that I think it isn't possible for any politician to do so. But you know that, of course.

I also don't recall saying he was a progressive so much as he recognised the need and opportunity for systemic change. Which you've all decided has to be insincere and just an attempt to win votes because it conflicts with your "status quo uber alles candidate" narrative.

If the word of a politician running for election was convincing all on its own then this time four years ago you would have been praising Trump's support of the LGBT community. He did, after all, say he supports them.

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:34 am**

Telconi wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
Thanks for that news flash. I take it the virus news cycle doesn't involve enough gun news for your pleasures.

Crabby today aren't we?

It's Good Friday near the Chesapeake Bay. I like a nice vegetable crab soup about now. You should try some.

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:35 am**

Just because Trump will shut down urban voting centers during the November election leaving only rural america to vote is no reason to decry is 50 state win as illegitimate.

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:35 am**

Ifreann wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Well given that you think it is totally impossible for politicians to change their views there's no point.

Ifreann wrote:That I don't think that Biden has actually changed his beliefs doesn't mean that I think it isn't possible for any politician to do so. But you know that, of course.

I also don't recall saying he was a progressive so much as he recognised the need and opportunity for systemic change. Which you've all decided has to be insincere and just an attempt to win votes because it conflicts with your "status quo uber alles candidate" narrative.

If the word of a politician running for election was convincing all on its own then this time four years ago you would have been praising Trump's support of the LGBT community. He did, after all, say he supports them.

So what makes this particular change impossible beyond you not wanting it to be true?

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:36 am**

Greed and Death wrote:Just because Trump will shut down urban voting centers during the November election leaving only rural america to vote is no reason to decry is 50 state win as illegitimate.

If only Jeb! had thought of that.

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:37 am**

Cisairse wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:Just because Trump will shut down urban voting centers during the November election leaving only rural america to vote is no reason to decry is 50 state win as illegitimate.

If only Jeb! had thought of that.

Wait, wasn't Jeb! competing for the same rural base as The Donald?

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:39 am**

Cisairse wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:Just because Trump will shut down urban voting centers during the November election leaving only rural america to vote is no reason to decry is 50 state win as illegitimate.

If only Jeb! had thought of that.

Dammit, Covid should have come along in 2016, then we'd have the best timeline.

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:39 am**

Cisairse wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:Just because Trump will shut down urban voting centers during the November election leaving only rural america to vote is no reason to decry is 50 state win as illegitimate.

If only Jeb! had thought of that.

Not enough energy to be seen in public anymore. Besides his Mother's last wish was no more Bush family presidents.

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:41 am**

Gormwood wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
If only Jeb! had thought of that.

Wait, wasn't Jeb! competing for the same rural base as The Donald?

Jeb! wasn't competing for anything.

Jerzylvania wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
If only Jeb! had thought of that.

Not enough energy to be seen in public anymore. Besides his Mother's last wish was no more Bush family presidents.

She sounds like a dirty Democrat.

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:41 am**

Jerzylvania wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
If only Jeb! had thought of that.

Not enough energy to be seen in public anymore. Besides his Mother's last wish was no more Bush family presidents.

Not enough anymore? I thought he was always Low Energy Jeb, Trump said so!

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:44 am**

Gormwood wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:Not enough energy to be seen in public anymore. Besides his Mother's last wish was no more Bush family presidents.

Not enough anymore? I thought he was always Low Energy Jeb, Trump said so!

Yep.

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:47 am**

Gormwood wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:Not enough energy to be seen in public anymore. Besides his Mother's last wish was no more Bush family presidents.

Not enough anymore? I thought he was always Low Energy Jeb, Trump said so!

Incorrect. He had enough juice as FL governor to help throw the 2000 election to brother George. But his bro's shit performance short circuited him.

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:47 am**

Jerzylvania wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Not enough anymore? I thought he was always Low Energy Jeb, Trump said so!

Incorrect. He had enough juice as FL governor to help throw the 2000 election to brother George. But his bro's shit performance short circuited him.

We're really giving Jeb! credit for what was literally the crowning achievement of the life of Ralph Nader?

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:53 am**

Cisairse wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:Incorrect. He had enough juice as FL governor to help throw the 2000 election to brother George. But his bro's shit performance short circuited him.

We're really giving Jeb! credit for what was literally the crowning achievement of the life of Ralph Nader?

You leave Ralph alone. You are forgetting the butterfly ballots and Patrick J. Buchanan candidacy!

Jeb! did have his Secretary of State Katharine Harris do most of the heavy lifting. Her career also took on a rapid downward spiral once Georgie screwed up enough. Like 2006ish.

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