2020 US General Election Thread VI: Covid for VP!

[Gormwood]

Would be a problem if not for the fact that the other side has someone much worse and they stick with him no matter what gets proven. One sided chivalry is a bitch's game.

Your failure to recognize your own hypocrisy here convinces me you’re blinded by partisanship

Getting rid of Al Franken over a tacky photo gag sure helped the Democrats in the Senate come impeachment and showed the Republicans whatfor. Spiritual purity doesn't do anything against dirty political reality except reinforce a smug sense of superiority in the face of tangible losses.

[Ifreann]

It is a little concerning to see how fast some people's moral values get tossed overboard when someone on their team is doing the bad.

Would be a problem if not for the fact that the other side has someone much worse and they stick with him no matter what gets proven. One sided chivalry is a bitch's game.

Weird how when it's Biden, the moral imperative to beat Trump overrides all other considerations, but if we're talking about Sanders it's all "Bernie Bros are conspiracy theorists who just want a coronation".

[Gormwood]

Would be a problem if not for the fact that the other side has someone much worse and they stick with him no matter what gets proven. One sided chivalry is a bitch's game.

Weird how when it's Biden, the moral imperative to beat Trump overrides all other considerations, but if we're talking about Sanders it's all "Bernie Bros are conspiracy theorists who just want a coronation".

So why didn't they go out and vote for Sanders in the primaries? I actually did.

[Ifreann]

Weird how when it's Biden, the moral imperative to beat Trump overrides all other considerations, but if we're talking about Sanders it's all "Bernie Bros are conspiracy theorists who just want a coronation".

So why didn't they go out and vote for Sanders in the primaries? I actually did.

Well for one, imaginary people aren't eligible to vote. But if beating Trump is so important, then what does it matter who people vote for? If you can ignore everything about Biden except the D by his name, why not ignore the results and just nominate someone better than Biden?

[Gormwood]

So why didn't they go out and vote for Sanders in the primaries? I actually did.

Well for one, imaginary people aren't eligible to vote. But if beating Trump is so important, then what does it matter who people vote for? If you can ignore everything about Biden except the D by his name, why not ignore the results and just nominate someone better than Biden?

What part of "I voted for Sanders" did you miss in trying to be condescending?

[The East Marches II]

Do you suddenly not believe women anymore Gauth? Why are you enabling rape?

Anyone with basic reading comprehension could tell that wasn't even insinuated in his post, but I suppose that requires honesty or at least a smidge of restraint.

Gormwood was saying that, regardless of the claims, getting fussy over flaws when one candidate is objectively worse in any flaw you can field at Biden is silly.

Given Gauthier's propensity for denying all accusations of something based on the (D) and simultaneously accusing anybody of not believing all women as enabling rape, it's entirely reasonable to expose his crippling hypocrisy.

Don't be displeased because a person on your team is poor at making their point. Maybe you should encourage them to be honest. If anything, I'm the best poster in this whole exchange :^)

[The East Marches II]

It is a little concerning to see how fast some people's moral values get tossed overboard when someone on their team is doing the bad.

Would be a problem if not for the fact that the other side has someone much worse and they stick with him no matter what gets proven. One sided chivalry is a bitch's game.

So do you #believeallwomen?

[Ifreann]

Well for one, imaginary people aren't eligible to vote. But if beating Trump is so important, then what does it matter who people vote for? If you can ignore everything about Biden except the D by his name, why not ignore the results and just nominate someone better than Biden?

What part of "I voted for Sanders" did you miss in trying to be condescending?

What difference do you think that makes? You are, now, today, disparaging people who might decide not to vote for Biden. You're here saying that it doesn't matter that he's a rapist, because Trump is worse, and anyone who doesn't vote for him will be to blame if Trump wins. So what if you voted for Sanders?

[Ors Might]

Yeah, people who won't vote for a rapist Democrat over a rapist Republican are so unreasonable. Why won't they just compromise their moral principles to own the GOP?

"At least I kept my morality pure and didn't vote for any rapists," he said as Trump gets a second term. And the certainty that Biden committed actual rape, edgy.

Imagine being so blindly partisan that you look down on people that don’t want to vote for an alleged rapist. And please don’t go off on how “The Republicans have done worse!” or how “Having moral standards is a bitch game”. It doesn’t help.

On the topic of Biden being accused of rape, I maintain that innocent until proven guilty is an important standard to have in general.

[Juristonia]

It is a little concerning to see how fast some people's moral values get tossed overboard when someone on their team is doing the bad.

Would be a problem if not for the fact that the other side has someone much worse and they stick with him no matter what gets proven. One sided chivalry is a bitch's game.

I can shoot you once, or I can shoot you twice.

I could also just not shoot you at all, but apparently you don't like an alternative option, so let's ignore that one.

[Gormwood]

What part of "I voted for Sanders" did you miss in trying to be condescending?

What difference do you think that makes? You are, now, today, disparaging people who might decide not to vote for Biden. You're here saying that it doesn't matter that he's a rapist, because Trump is worse, and anyone who doesn't vote for him will be to blame if Trump wins. So what if you voted for Sanders?

Biden hasn't been investigated and proven to be a rapist, but you're busy with smug virtue signalling assuming actually he did it from the start, whereas Trump has a long list of women accusing him that can hardly be a feminazi conspiracy and a tabloid that actively buried negative stories about him. The GOP base doesn't care even if there's video evidence, they'll stick by him rank and file while you're hoping for a self-defeating purity test in the Democrats. I voted Sanders for something new, but the base picked Biden and best to support the team in these times.

[Gormwood]

Would be a problem if not for the fact that the other side has someone much worse and they stick with him no matter what gets proven. One sided chivalry is a bitch's game.

I can shoot you once, or I can shoot you twice.

I could also just not shoot you at all, but apparently you don't like an alternative option, so let's ignore that one.

Ask to not be shot in these times and you just get a magazine emptied into you anyways.

[Juristonia]

Biden hasn't been investigated and proven to be a rapist,

Legally, neither has Trump, and since now you're suddenly a stickler for details like that, that argument goes out the window.

but you're busy with smug virtue signalling assuming actually he did it from the start,

So yes, "believe all women" is suddenly subjective to change.

The GOP base doesn't care even if there's video evidence

Guess both sides of the aisle have finally found something to agree on then.

[Juristonia]

I can shoot you once, or I can shoot you twice.

I could also just not shoot you at all, but apparently you don't like an alternative option, so let's ignore that one.

Ask to not be shot in these times and you just get a magazine emptied into you anyways.

Kinda like asking for a logical response from you right now then

I mean, seriously Gaunt. Come on.
You're dodging like you're in the Matrix.

[Gormwood]

Biden hasn't been investigated and proven to be a rapist,

Legally, neither has Trump, and since now you're suddenly stickler for details like that, that argument goes out the window.

but you're busy with smug virtue signalling assuming actually he did it from the start,

So yes, "believe all women" is suddenly subjective to change.

The GOP base doesn't care even if there's video evidence

Guess both sides of the aisle have finally found something to agree on then.

So disqualify Biden on suspicion and Trump wins by forfeit. But at least some people get to keep a clean morality as the country sinks even further.

[Ors Might]

Legally, neither has Trump, and since now you're suddenly stickler for details like that, that argument goes out the window.

So yes, "believe all women" is suddenly subjective to change.

Guess both sides of the aisle have finally found something to agree on then.

So disqualify Biden on suspicion and Trump wins by forfeit. But at least some people get to keep a clean morality as the country sinks even further.

Or, and stick with me here, you don’t try this weird tactic of shaming people for not wanting to give alleged rapists their support?

[Nakena]

Legally, neither has Trump, and since now you're suddenly stickler for details like that, that argument goes out the window.

So yes, "believe all women" is suddenly subjective to change.

Guess both sides of the aisle have finally found something to agree on then.

So disqualify Biden on suspicion and Trump wins by forfeit. But at least some people get to keep a clean morality as the country sinks even further.

2020: Trump elected with 100%

Trumpenreich confirmed.

And thus Donald Trumps rule began over the devastated remnants of what once America...

[Gormwood]

So disqualify Biden on suspicion and Trump wins by forfeit. But at least some people get to keep a clean morality as the country sinks even further.

Or, and stick with me here, you don’t try this weird tactic of shaming people for not wanting to give alleged rapists their support?

But only if they're Democrats. Don't hear much disapproval of Trump from the Republican base.

[Juristonia]

So disqualify Biden on suspicion and Trump wins by forfeit. But at least some people get to keep a clean morality as the country sinks even further.

>Assuming the only two options are ignore an accusation or assume it's true.
>Assuming the only two options are Biden or Trump.
>Assuming having some moral backbone isn't worth holding on to.

The state of this.

[Ors Might]

Or, and stick with me here, you don’t try this weird tactic of shaming people for not wanting to give alleged rapists their support?

But only if they're Democrats. Don't hear much disapproval of Trump from the Republican base.

You aren’t the Republican base. We aren’t the Republican base. Talking about how Republicans have a double standard doesn’t mean jack shit if the people you’re engaging aren’t Republicans.

[Juristonia]

But only if they're Democrats. Don't hear much disapproval of Trump from the Republican base.

So let's be better than that.
Cause what you're doing right now, really isn't.

[Ifreann]

What difference do you think that makes? You are, now, today, disparaging people who might decide not to vote for Biden. You're here saying that it doesn't matter that he's a rapist, because Trump is worse, and anyone who doesn't vote for him will be to blame if Trump wins. So what if you voted for Sanders?

Biden hasn't been investigated and proven to be a rapist, but you're busy with smug virtue signalling assuming actually he did it from the start, whereas Trump has a long list of women accusing him that can hardly be a feminazi conspiracy and a tabloid that actively buried negative stories about him. The GOP base doesn't care even if there's video evidence, they'll stick by him rank and file while you're hoping for a self-defeating purity test in the Democrats. I voted Sanders for something new, but the base picked Biden and best to support the team in these times.

"You're just virtue signalling" is possibly the most useless criticism imaginable, which shouldn't be surprising, given that you're copying it from right wing shitlords. Anything, literally anything, can be dismissed as virtue signalling. I can say that by accusing me of smug virtue signalling, you are just trying to signal the virtue of not being a virtue signaller. Now what? Can you prove that you aren't trying to virtue signal? And even if that is what you're doing, does that mean you're wrong about me virtue signalling? It's a nothing criticism. You'd have been better off just saying I'm bad and therefore wrong.

[Ors Might]

But only if they're Democrats. Don't hear much disapproval of Trump from the Republican base.

So let's be better than that.
Cause what you're doing right now, really isn't.

Apparently having standards of right and wrong is for losers. Though I’m not sure what “winning” is supposed to look like in that case.

[Juristonia]

I'm not saying Biden absolutely did it, by the way.
Or that he's a worse pick than Trump.

I'm just saying, let's not just hand wave an accusation of a pretty serious act away, because you're so stuck on your puritan ideals that you're willing to ignore everything just to make sure Trump doesn't get reelected.

[Gormwood]

So if the DNC doesn't follow the verdict of NSG and disqualify Biden in favor of Sanders or whoever it apparently means the Democrats and their base are all rapist supporters and Trump should be allowed a second term to punish them.