2020 US General Election Thread VI: Covid for VP!

[Gormwood]

Is Biden doing everything possible to get people to dislike him more?

Watch people become Bush apologists in 3… 2… 1…

Isn’t it funny the same people who passionately opposed Romney and McCain suddenly became "respectful" of them after they opposed Trump? It’s almost like some people think beating Trump is more important than helping American people

A fascist giving a lecture on American politics and helping people. That's fucking rich.

[Shrillland]

Now eight counties have ballot extensions in Pennsylvania including the important Bucks and Delaware counties. Any ballots postmarked today can be counted if they arrive by June 9, so a lot of Pennsylvania races probably won't be decided tonight.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

Watch people become Bush apologists in 3… 2… 1…

Isn’t it funny the same people who passionately opposed Romney and McCain suddenly became "respectful" of them after they opposed Trump? It’s almost like some people think beating Trump is more important than helping American people

A fascist giving a lecture on American politics and helping people. That's fucking rich.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

[Valrifell]

Is Biden doing everything possible to get people to dislike him more?

Watch people become Bush apologists in 3… 2… 1…

Isn’t it funny the same people who passionately opposed Romney and McCain suddenly became "respectful" of them after they opposed Trump? It’s almost like some people think beating Trump is more important than helping American people

People saying "man I miss Bush" is more of a hyperbole than anything. That's mostly because a lot of the up coming politically cognizant folk were children when Bush was in office and don't really get how bad he was.

Of course I'm not like other zoomers UwU

[Valrifell]

A fascist giving a lecture on American politics and helping people. That's fucking rich.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

Actually it's the genetic fallacy unless you think fascist is an insult, which would be weird because you self-identify as a fascist.

[Cannot think of a name]

That would be absolutely freaking amazing and we'd have breathing room in the Senate for 2022 which is difficult map for Republicans anyway. Plus it means an expanded House majority and the damage in state legislatures would likely be massive

If this is what the EC map looked like and the Senate votes followed the presidential votes, the Senate would end up being 58 D + VP to 42 R.

The Senate hasn't been that lopsided since the 1970s.

Between the 2008 election to the death of Ted Kennedy when he was replaced by a Republican the Democrats had a super majority in the senate. It lasted just long enough to pass the ACA with Lieberman upholding the filibuster that blocked the public option because the majority of his donors were health insurance providers.

[Major-Tom]

If the Øptimus and Morning Consult polls from this week hold up for the general, Biden will defeat Trump by a greater popular vote margin than any election since President Reagan's 49-state landslide against former Vice President Mondale in '84.

Like imagine waking up on Wednesday and this is the map:

I literally can't picture this, as much as I want to.

This is the most realistic of best case scenarios IMHO;
https://www.270towin.com/maps/r26Ny.

Yes, I know Florida is marked lean red, but only because the state somehow seems to be the lone Sun Belt swing state drifting further red as the influx of affluent white boomers never ceases.

[Ism]

Is Biden doing everything possible to get people to dislike him more?

Watch people become Bush apologists in 3… 2… 1…

Isn’t it funny the same people who passionately opposed Romney and McCain suddenly became "respectful" of them after they opposed Trump? It’s almost like some people think beating Trump is more important than helping American people

It's almost as if some people think beating Trump would help the American people. But no, that can't be, nuance has no place on the Internet, after all.

[The Andromeda Island Group]

Is Biden doing everything possible to get people to dislike him more?

Watch people become Bush apologists in 3… 2… 1…

Isn’t it funny the same people who passionately opposed Romney and McCain suddenly became "respectful" of them after they opposed Trump? It’s almost like some people think beating Trump is more important than helping American people

I have to read this again, just to fathom how stupid it is:

It’s almost like some people think beating Trump is more important than helping American people

As if anyone who wants to help the American people still supports Donald Trump.

Your straightjacket isn't tight enough.

[West Leas Oros 2]

Watch people become Bush apologists in 3… 2… 1…

Isn’t it funny the same people who passionately opposed Romney and McCain suddenly became "respectful" of them after they opposed Trump? It’s almost like some people think beating Trump is more important than helping American people

It's almost as if some people think beating Trump would help the American people. But no, that can't be, nuance has no place on the Internet, after all.

It's almost as if some people think America is too systematically broken to be fixed simply by removing one person from power.

[Shrillland]

In other news, just three weeks before the New York Primaries, Democratic Rep. Eliot Engel just opened mouth and inserted proverbial shotgun: https://www.yahoo.com/news/senior-democrat-caught-hot-mic-201351896.html

[Zurkerx]

Did any of you watch Joe Biden's speech today?

I thought it was very good. VP Biden is back after an extended hiatus.

Oh yes, I listened to it: a very good speech. If Biden is able to keep his composure like that, things should go more smoothly, should being the key word. We'll need to see how well he performs overall.

If the Øptimus and Morning Consult polls from this week hold up for the general, Biden will defeat Trump by a greater popular vote margin than any election since President Reagan's 49-state landslide against former Vice President Mondale in '84.

Like imagine waking up on Wednesday and this is the map:

I seriously, seriously doubt that would happen. However, a Monmouth Poll did show a larger margin of disapproval then they usually do, and they're an A+. That being said, if Biden does somehow flip States Trump won (MI, PA, WI, IA, ME-2, FL, and OH) and wins additional States (NC, AZ, and NE-2; maybe GA & TX though unlikely), I think we could then say it's a confident firm rejection of Trump and the Republican Party. Again, that's not likely given the current situation: I suspect this will be a close race; it can go either way.

The Hill: Bush administration alums form pro-Biden super PAC

Damn, Trump surely has pissed off more people recently. Still, I would be shocked if Bush himself endorsed Biden: that will draw the ire of Trump definitely. Speaking of such endorsements, Julián Castro has endorsed Biden.

[Major-Tom]

Did any of you watch Joe Biden's speech today?

I thought it was very good. VP Biden is back after an extended hiatus.

I did. I always enjoy being pleasantly surprised.

[Farnhamia]

Did any of you watch Joe Biden's speech today?

I thought it was very good. VP Biden is back after an extended hiatus.

Oh yes, I listened to it: a very good speech. If Biden is able to keep his composure like that, things should go more smoothly, should being the key word. We'll need to see how well he performs overall.

Like imagine waking up on Wednesday and this is the map:

I seriously, seriously doubt that would happen. However, a Monmouth Poll did show a larger margin of disapproval then they usually do, and they're an A+. That being said, if Biden does somehow flip States Trump won (MI, PA, WI, IA, ME-2, FL, and OH) and wins additional States (NC, AZ, and NE-2; maybe GA & TX though unlikely), I think we could then say it's a confident firm rejection of Trump and the Republican Party. Again, that's not likely given the current situation: I suspect this will be a close race; it can go either way.

The Hill: Bush administration alums form pro-Biden super PAC

Damn, Trump surely has pissed off more people recently. Still, I would be shocked if Bush himself endorsed Biden: that will draw the ire of Trump definitely. Speaking of such endorsements, Julián Castro has endorsed Biden.

Castro endorsed Biden?

[Gormwood]

Oh yes, I listened to it: a very good speech. If Biden is able to keep his composure like that, things should go more smoothly, should being the key word. We'll need to see how well he performs overall.



I seriously, seriously doubt that would happen. However, a Monmouth Poll did show a larger margin of disapproval then they usually do, and they're an A+. That being said, if Biden does somehow flip States Trump won (MI, PA, WI, IA, ME-2, FL, and OH) and wins additional States (NC, AZ, and NE-2; maybe GA & TX though unlikely), I think we could then say it's a confident firm rejection of Trump and the Republican Party. Again, that's not likely given the current situation: I suspect this will be a close race; it can go either way.



Damn, Trump surely has pissed off more people recently. Still, I would be shocked if Bush himself endorsed Biden: that will draw the ire of Trump definitely. Speaking of such endorsements, Julián Castro has endorsed Biden.

Castro endorsed Biden?

No wonder Bernie Sanders is working with him!

[West Leas Oros 2]

Oh yes, I listened to it: a very good speech. If Biden is able to keep his composure like that, things should go more smoothly, should being the key word. We'll need to see how well he performs overall.



I seriously, seriously doubt that would happen. However, a Monmouth Poll did show a larger margin of disapproval then they usually do, and they're an A+. That being said, if Biden does somehow flip States Trump won (MI, PA, WI, IA, ME-2, FL, and OH) and wins additional States (NC, AZ, and NE-2; maybe GA & TX though unlikely), I think we could then say it's a confident firm rejection of Trump and the Republican Party. Again, that's not likely given the current situation: I suspect this will be a close race; it can go either way.



Damn, Trump surely has pissed off more people recently. Still, I would be shocked if Bush himself endorsed Biden: that will draw the ire of Trump definitely. Speaking of such endorsements, Julián Castro has endorsed Biden.

Castro endorsed Biden?

I thought Castro died a few years ago in Cuba.

[Outer Sparta]

If the Øptimus and Morning Consult polls from this week hold up for the general, Biden will defeat Trump by a greater popular vote margin than any election since President Reagan's 49-state landslide against former Vice President Mondale in '84.

Like imagine waking up on Wednesday and this is the map:

Lol Montana, Utah, Kansas, Missouri, Mississippi, and South Carolina flipping are pipe dreams. I guess MT-Sen is more plausible to flip and maybe KS-Sen. Even then, polls won't matter unless people vote.

[Shrillland]

More calls to make:

GOP IN-5(Indianapolis-Marion): Victoria Spartz
Dem IN-5(Indianapolis-Marion): Christina Hale

[San Lumen]

I would love that and it would mean that 60 votes is in reach in 2022.

I'm almost scared of what Ds would do with presidency + House + supermajority in senate

Democrats had 60 seats after the 2008 wave

[Shrillland]

I'm almost scared of what Ds would do with presidency + House + supermajority in senate

Democrats had 60 seats after the 2008 wave

And still couldn't hardly get anything done. The Left, no matter where in the world it is, falls to infighting and superiority complexes because everybody thinks that they alone are right and to hell with everyone else.

[Zurkerx]

Castro endorsed Biden?

Sí, though I understand why it boggles you: zombies can't endorse people after all

[Major-Tom]

Like imagine waking up on Wednesday and this is the map:

Lol Montana, Utah, Kansas, Missouri, Mississippi, and South Carolina flipping are pipe dreams. I guess MT-Sen is more plausible to flip and maybe KS-Sen. Even then, polls won't matter unless people vote.

The Senate polls in Kansas really do be looking viable tho.

Kansas is one of the few hard-Red states that still elects Dems now and again (IE their current Gov, Sebelius etc).

[San Lumen]

Lol Montana, Utah, Kansas, Missouri, Mississippi, and South Carolina flipping are pipe dreams. I guess MT-Sen is more plausible to flip and maybe KS-Sen. Even then, polls won't matter unless people vote.

The Senate polls in Kansas really do be looking viable tho.

Kansas is one of the few hard-Red states that still elects Dems now and again (IE their current Gov, Sebelius etc).

Kansas is likely only winnable if Kobach gets the nomination

[Farnhamia]

Castro endorsed Biden?

Sí, though I understand why it boggles you: zombies can't endorse people after all

Not more than once or twice, anyway. Their bodies tend to fall apart.

[Shrillland]

The Senate polls in Kansas really do be looking viable tho.

Kansas is one of the few hard-Red states that still elects Dems now and again (IE their current Gov, Sebelius etc).

Kansas is likely only winnable if Kobach gets the nomination

It's hard to tell if Kobach is even actually running since there's no sign he ever formally filed a campaign before yesterday's deadline. Marshall isn't doing well in the polls either, however, still within the margin of error.