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2020 US General Election Thread VI: Covid for VP!

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How do You Plan to Vote This Year?

At a Polling Place
40
22%
By Mail(If Allowed)
42
23%
Early Voting
6
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I Won't Vote
14
8%
I Can't Vote(To Young/Outside the US)
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Total votes : 182

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Postby Blakk Metal » Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:53 pm

The Andromeda Island Group wrote:
Corrian wrote:So remember when everyone's rhetoric about Trump was hyperbole, and now he's practically trying to incite a civil war?


This is part of Trump's strategy. Deep in his heart, he knows that he doesn't deserve to be President of the United States, so he's working hard to make sure the country is no longer united.

He's doing exactly what his boss, Vladimir Putin, wants him to do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUGlOKsJGuI

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Postby Zurkerx » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:09 pm

Corrian wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:It's still early but given the President is threatening to deploy the military to quell the protests, it could drastically effect his poll numbers, good or bad.

I can't see a world where that effects his poll numbers in a positive manner.


You be surprised, but yeah, I'm incline to agree with you. Unless the military is deployed and there is minimum damage, I can't see it ending well.

Corrian wrote:So remember when everyone's rhetoric about Trump was hyperbole, and now he's practically trying to incite a civil war?


Oh?

Cisairse wrote:Any moderate.

I want Warren, I'd settle for Baldwin; anyone else and I'd have to look into their voting record (if applicable), etc., before passing judgement. Harris, Klobuchar, etc. and other moderates are right out.


Baldwin is my preferred choice though at this point, if Trump does go through with deploying the military and things turn violent; hundreds of Americans potentially dying, I don't see myself caring who his VP is at this point: the goal would be to try to vote Trump out of Office, that's if he isn't impeached or removed from Office beforehand. This is extreme case scenario but I am fearful where the direction this country is going. Besides, 2024 is bound to have a few Democratic Challengers, especially a Progressive.
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Postby Cisairse » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:13 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
Corrian wrote:I can't see a world where that effects his poll numbers in a positive manner.


You be surprised, but yeah, I'm incline to agree with you. Unless the military is deployed and there is minimum damage, I can't see it ending well.

Corrian wrote:So remember when everyone's rhetoric about Trump was hyperbole, and now he's practically trying to incite a civil war?


Oh?

Cisairse wrote:Any moderate.

I want Warren, I'd settle for Baldwin; anyone else and I'd have to look into their voting record (if applicable), etc., before passing judgement. Harris, Klobuchar, etc. and other moderates are right out.


Baldwin is my preferred choice though at this point, if Trump does go through with deploying the military and things turn violent; hundreds of Americans potentially dying, I don't see myself caring who his VP is at this point: the goal would be to try to vote Trump out of Office, that's if he isn't impeached or removed from Office beforehand. This is extreme case scenario but I am fearful where the direction this country is going. Besides, 2024 is bound to have a few Democratic Challengers, especially a Progressive.


Sure. I'd be singing a very different tune if I didn't live in a state that was guaranteed to give its EC votes to Joe Biden.

Realistically my vote is just to send a message of support more than anything, and so I can tell people in X years that I voted for X candidate when asked.
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Postby The Andromeda Island Group » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:24 pm

“I think we may have to account for the distinct possibility that the people who sounded the most apocalyptic about Trump were not being hysterical — they were right.”

-Sen. Brian Schatz (D-Hawaii)


For those of you who voted for Trump in 2016 thinking he would grow into the Presidency,...

...we told you in 2016.

Now, America and the world are suffering because of your mistake.
A better leader would have had a better response to Covid-19.
A better leader would try to bring America together instead of tearing it apart.

Giving it the ol' college try doesn't cut it when the college is Trump University.

Elections have consequences.

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Postby Gormwood » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:28 pm

The Andromeda Island Group wrote:
“I think we may have to account for the distinct possibility that the people who sounded the most apocalyptic about Trump were not being hysterical — they were right.”

-Sen. Brian Schatz (D-Hawaii)


For those of you who voted for Trump in 2016 thinking he would grow into the Presidency,...

...we told you in 2016.

Now, America and the world are suffering because of your mistake.
A better leader would have had a better response to Covid-19.
A better leader would try to bring America together instead of tearing it apart.

Giving it the ol' college try doesn't cut it when the college is Trump University.

Elections have consequences.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:07 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
You be surprised, but yeah, I'm incline to agree with you. Unless the military is deployed and there is minimum damage, I can't see it ending well.



Oh?



Baldwin is my preferred choice though at this point, if Trump does go through with deploying the military and things turn violent; hundreds of Americans potentially dying, I don't see myself caring who his VP is at this point: the goal would be to try to vote Trump out of Office, that's if he isn't impeached or removed from Office beforehand. This is extreme case scenario but I am fearful where the direction this country is going. Besides, 2024 is bound to have a few Democratic Challengers, especially a Progressive.


Sure. I'd be singing a very different tune if I didn't live in a state that was guaranteed to give its EC votes to Joe Biden.

Realistically my vote is just to send a message of support more than anything, and so I can tell people in X years that I voted for X candidate when asked.

I live in a swing state myself but even if I lived in a safe D or R state, I'll still pitch in to vote for Biden.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:41 pm

The Andromeda Island Group wrote:
“I think we may have to account for the distinct possibility that the people who sounded the most apocalyptic about Trump were not being hysterical — they were right.”

-Sen. Brian Schatz (D-Hawaii)


For those of you who voted for Trump in 2016 thinking he would grow into the Presidency,...

...we told you in 2016.

Now, America and the world are suffering because of your mistake.
A better leader would have had a better response to Covid-19.
A better leader would try to bring America together instead of tearing it apart.

Giving it the ol' college try doesn't cut it when the college is Trump University.

Elections have consequences.

The nation deserves to be torn apart, and not just because of Trump. Why delay the inevitable when you can have the system collapse sooner?
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Postby Maineiacs » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:43 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
The Andromeda Island Group wrote:
For those of you who voted for Trump in 2016 thinking he would grow into the Presidency,...

...we told you in 2016.

Now, America and the world are suffering because of your mistake.
A better leader would have had a better response to Covid-19.
A better leader would try to bring America together instead of tearing it apart.

Giving it the ol' college try doesn't cut it when the college is Trump University.

Elections have consequences.

The nation deserves to be torn apart, and not just because of Trump. Why delay the inevitable when you can have the system collapse sooner?



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Postby South Odreria 2 » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:52 pm

The Andromeda Island Group wrote:Elections have consequences.

Too bad Clinton primary voters still don't understand that.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:54 pm

Maineiacs wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:The nation deserves to be torn apart, and not just because of Trump. Why delay the inevitable when you can have the system collapse sooner?



Why do you want societal collapse? What do you hope to gain?

Do you really NEED a reason to bring on the collapse of the pathetic system we Americans live in?
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Postby Cisairse » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:56 pm

In other news, the Kansas filing deadline has passed, which means we're definitely not seeing Pompeo's candidacy for Senate there.
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Postby Zurkerx » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:03 pm

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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:08 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:
The Andromeda Island Group wrote:Elections have consequences.

Too bad Clinton primary voters still don't understand that.


Oh they do. Trump was elected.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:08 pm

Maineiacs wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:The nation deserves to be torn apart, and not just because of Trump. Why delay the inevitable when you can have the system collapse sooner?



Why do you want societal collapse? What do you hope to gain?

Freedom, if it can be won again.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:10 pm


That's no ordinary and generic Democratic senator either. It's Brian Schatz for crying out loud.
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:12 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
South Odreria 2 wrote:Too bad Clinton primary voters still don't understand that.


Oh they do. Trump was elected.

It's almost like his election had causes and effects.
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Postby Zurkerx » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:18 pm

Cisairse wrote:Sure. I'd be singing a very different tune if I didn't live in a state that was guaranteed to give its EC votes to Joe Biden.

Realistically my vote is just to send a message of support more than anything, and so I can tell people in X years that I voted for X candidate when asked.


It's how I view my vote too.

Outer Sparta wrote:

That's no ordinary and generic Democratic senator either. It's Brian Schatz for crying out loud.


Which shocks me more: he's no moderate if I recall.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:19 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Oh they do. Trump was elected.

It's almost like his election had causes and effects.

It's almost as if he got more votes overall than his opponent, instead of a mere 77,000+ in three states. Gosh.
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Postby Myrensis » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:34 pm

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It's not. Trump lost Minnesota by the amount of votes meme candidate Evan McMullin received. That will not be the case this time and Minnesotans have witnessed this destruction first hand.


Yes. Every incumbent President dreams of Depression-era unemployment, pandemic disease deaths, and nationwide violent rioting during their re-election campaign, because that's the kind of record that people can really rally behind.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:38 pm

Myrensis wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
It's not. Trump lost Minnesota by the amount of votes meme candidate Evan McMullin received. That will not be the case this time and Minnesotans have witnessed this destruction first hand.


Yes. Every incumbent President dreams of Depression-era unemployment, pandemic disease deaths, and nationwide violent rioting during their re-election campaign, because that's the kind of record that people can really rally behind.

A more intelligent president could exploit it for more power.
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Postby Cisairse » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:41 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Myrensis wrote:
Yes. Every incumbent President dreams of Depression-era unemployment, pandemic disease deaths, and nationwide violent rioting during their re-election campaign, because that's the kind of record that people can really rally behind.

A more intelligent president could exploit it for more power.


This actually worked for HW
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Postby Northern Davincia » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:51 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:A more intelligent president could exploit it for more power.


This actually worked for HW

I miss him, weirdly enough.
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Postby Cisairse » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:54 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
This actually worked for HW

I miss him, weirdly enough.


I don't.
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Postby Ngelmish » Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:01 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:I miss him, weirdly enough.


I don't.


Yeah, no, the ongoing myth of George Bush as the most recent "reasonable" Republican president is ludicrous. It's like the Eisenhower nostalgia, but more baseless.

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Postby Cisairse » Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:02 pm

Ngelmish wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
I don't.


Yeah, no, the ongoing myth of George Bush as the most recent "reasonable" Republican president is ludicrous. It's like the Eisenhower nostalgia, but more baseless.


We're talking about HW not W.

I really don't miss W.
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