2020 US General Election Thread VI: Covid for VP!

[The JELLEAIN Republic]

We also have a new poll for May.

No idea who Biden will pick, but unless he picks Sanders for his VP he's not getting my vote. And I highly doubt Biden would pick Sanders.

As in
sanders > trump > Biden
Or
You think that a vote for sanders hurts Biden more than a vote for trump.
???

(Also he stated it would be a woman so that’s as good as gone “thanks capitan obvious” )

If I had to bet who it WOULD be, I would say klobatchouar

(Honestly it’s my prediction rump will loose by a small margin unless he goes full totalitarian.)

[Corrian]

Wow, the two options for Republican governors in Washington are trash.

[Maineiacs]

I don't think this election really allows for much predicting. We have no idea who will win as there are too many factors, the pandemic, the 13 keys to the white house, scandals affecting both Presidents, Trump almost starting WWIII last January, impeachment trials, contentious primaries, an economic collapse, etc... As for certain aspects, like who will be Biden's VP, I don't think Biden even knows who he wants, but he made a campaign promise that it would be a woman. Of course this only applies to the Presidency, things are more interesting yet more predictable for Congress, and State and Local elections.

For the Democrats: there are 13 states that they really need to flip from red to blue.
1. Texas
2. Arizonia
3. Colorado
4. Florida
5. Georgia
6. North Carolina
7. Virginia
8. Pennsylvania
9. Michigan
10. Ohio
11. Iowa
12. Wisconsin
13. Maine

Texas is not going blue, nor is Iowa or Ohio and Georgia is iffy. And Colorado and Virginia went blue the last time and will again. Maine, as someone has mentioned, splits its votes but will go blue with the 2nd District unknown. The ones that are toss-ups are Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Arizona, North Carolina, and Florida. Biden honestly has a better chances in Michigan and PA, but the rest won't be easy. I would also keep my eyes on Nevada, New Hampshire, and Minnesota. Anyway, September, or October, is when we can really get an idea where things stand.

I live in ME-2. It'll go blue this time, based on what I've seen and heard.

[Vassenor]

So the National Archives have confirmed that the complaint that Reade claimed to have filed against Biden doens't exist.

The plot thickens.

[The Black Forrest]

So the National Archives have confirmed that the complaint that Reade claimed to have filed against Biden doens't exist.

The plot thickens.

Interesting. Biden should want the investigation (non political people) go through the process. Any time trump mentions it; he simply has to say let’s look at the 16 claims against you.......

[Vassenor]

So the National Archives have confirmed that the complaint that Reade claimed to have filed against Biden doens't exist.

The plot thickens.

Interesting. Biden should want the investigation (non political people) go through the process. Any time trump mentions it; he simply has to say let’s look at the 16 claims against you.......

He said the matter needs a full investigation and not just to be dismissed out of hand in yesterday's interview.

[The Andromeda Island Group]

For the Democrats: there are 13 states that they really need to flip from red to blue.
1. Texas
2. Arizona
3. Colorado
4. Florida
5. Georgia
6. North Carolina
7. Virginia
8. Pennsylvania
9. Michigan
10. Ohio
11. Iowa
12. Wisconsin
13. Maine

1. Virginia & Colorado are already blue.
2. If OH goes blue, Donald Trump better be overseas on Inauguration day. Otherwise, he may be led out of the White House in hand cuffs.
3. Seriously doubt that FL, GA & AZ go blue in 2020. Even if one of the three goes blue, that would be really bad for the Republicans.
4. If Texas goes blue in November, the MAGA hats can cancel Christmas.

[The Empire of 4]

Sleepy joe is TOAST in November. And his supporters know that. Hence why they can’t even vowch for Biden, they just deflect to “orange man bad, so vote blue Derp”.

[Blargoblarg]

Woman Claims Biden Sexually Harassed Her When She Was 14 Years Old by Complimenting Her Breasts

[Albrenia]

Woman Claims Biden Sexually Harassed Her When She Was 14 Years Old by Complimenting Her Breasts

Eww.

[Albrenia]

Sleepy joe is TOAST in November. And his supporters know that. Hence why they can’t even vowch for Biden, they just deflect to “orange man bad, so vote blue Derp”.

As an aside, Political Nicknaming like calling Biden 'sleepy joe' or Trump 'drumpf' or the like is against the rules here so you might not want to do that.

[The Andromeda Island Group]

Sleepy joe is TOAST in November. And his supporters know that. Hence why they can’t even vowch for Biden, they just deflect to “orange man bad, so vote blue Derp”.

Donald Trump, is that you?

[Lamoni]

Voting trump to keep America great continue to make America greater again.
Sleepy joe is a joke. And berners who are willing to bend over for the dnc after they gave you the middle finger in two primaries... well good luck. Must suck to cast a vote 4 times in a presidential elections only to watch your candiate lose all 4 times. Hahahahah.
(Bernie 2016, Hillary 2016, Bernie 2020, biden 2020).

Sleepy joe is TOAST in November. And his supporters know that. Hence why they can’t even vowch for Biden, they just deflect to “orange man bad, so vote blue Derp”.

*** DEAT for political puppet spam ***
And this is why we don't use puppets to troll.

[Vassenor]

So we're back to ignoring all the discussion we've had of his policy positions because it's bad for the narrative again?

[Ethel mermania]

Woman Claims Biden Sexually Harassed Her When She Was 14 Years Old by Complimenting Her Breasts

As much as I will not be voting for biden, I really dont see saying "nice tits" to someone as a disqualifying for office.

[The Black Dog Association]

Woman Claims Biden Sexually Harassed Her When She Was 14 Years Old by Complimenting Her Breasts

I wouldn’t put it past him.

[Loben The 2nd]

Woman Claims Biden Sexually Harassed Her When She Was 14 Years Old by Complimenting Her Breasts

As much as I will not be voting for biden, I really dont see saying "nice tits" to someone as a disqualifying for office.

didnt people have a conniption fit over trump saying "grab em by the pussy?"

how ever, Biden *did* apparently say that to a 14 year old.

which would raise a red flag or 2.

[Ethel mermania]

As much as I will not be voting for biden, I really dont see saying "nice tits" to someone as a disqualifying for office.

didnt people have a conniption fit over trump saying "grab em by the pussy?"

how ever, Biden *did* apparently say that to a 14 year old.

which would raise a red flag or 2.

Yes they did, yet I still voted for trump.

You Dont always know how old a kid is when talking to them, particularly a girl is overly endowed for her age. Is it a creepy thing to say to anybody? Yeah it is. And I must confess the absolute hypocrisy of the #metoo movement is a shitshow I am enjoying, as it only seems to apply to candidates they dont like.

But if I agreed with biden, more than i agree with trump, this wouldn't change my vote.

[Loben The 2nd]

didnt people have a conniption fit over trump saying "grab em by the pussy?"

how ever, Biden *did* apparently say that to a 14 year old.

which would raise a red flag or 2.

Yes they did, yet I still voted for trump.

You Dont always know how old a kid is when talking to them, particularly a girl is overly endowed for her age. Is it a creepy thing to say to anybody? Yeah it is. And I must confess the absolute hypocrisy of the #metoo movement is a shitshow I am enjoying, as it only seems to apply to candidates they dont like.

But if I agreed with biden, more than i agree with trump, this wouldn't change my vote.

eh, do as you wish.

[Ifreann]

When that what?

I dunno, you snidely pointing out every fault of Biden possible like you're anticipating him getting removed or beaten.

That doesn't really follow, but I think I take the point from your incoherent posts that you're mad at people who don't like Biden and you're making up private thoughts that they must be having to justify that anger.

I don't think that Biden's going to get removed as the Democratic candidate, by the way. And I go back and forth on whether I think he'll lose in November. On the one hand he is pretty shite, but on the other, Trump is really fucking up with this pandemic. But on the third hand, America is a weird country, both candidates could largely shrug those things off and the election end up getting decided based on some October surprise.

[Kannap]

So the National Archives have confirmed that the complaint that Reade claimed to have filed against Biden doens't exist.

The plot thickens.

“The short answer is no — we don’t have those. Those records are with the Congress,” John Valceanu, director of communications for the archives, told Yahoo News.

The archives later put out a statement saying in its entirety: “Any records of Senate personnel complaints from 1993 would have remained under the control of the Senate. Accordingly inquiries related to these records should be directed to the Senate.” The office of the secretary of the Senate did not respond to a request for comment.

Is the plot thickening because you're lying about what the article says? The National Archive didn't say "the complaint that Reade claimed to have filed against Biden doesn't exist," the National Archive said that they would not have a record of any Senate personnel complaints - including Reade's if it exists - from 1993 as those would stay in records controlled by the Senate.

In a statement and an interview Friday morning Biden denied the episode entirely, and said any record of the complaint, if it existed, would be in the National Archives.

And if we're keeping score of misguided information, Joe Biden was the one who said the record would be in the National Archives. The National Archives is now saying it would be with the Senate.

[Kannap]

I dunno, you snidely pointing out every fault of Biden possible like you're anticipating him getting removed or beaten.

That doesn't really follow, but I think I take the point from your incoherent posts that you're mad at people who don't like Biden and you're making up private thoughts that they must be having to justify that anger.

I don't think that Biden's going to get removed as the Democratic candidate, by the way. And I go back and forth on whether I think he'll lose in November. On the one hand he is pretty shite, but on the other, Trump is really fucking up with this pandemic. But on the third hand, America is a weird country, both candidates could largely shrug those things off and the election end up getting decided based on some October surprise.

Pretty much all of this.

[Ifreann]

So the National Archives have confirmed that the complaint that Reade claimed to have filed against Biden doens't exist.

The plot thickens.

“The short answer is no — we don’t have those. Those records are with the Congress,” John Valceanu, director of communications for the archives, told Yahoo News.

The archives later put out a statement saying in its entirety: “Any records of Senate personnel complaints from 1993 would have remained under the control of the Senate. Accordingly inquiries related to these records should be directed to the Senate.” The office of the secretary of the Senate did not respond to a request for comment.

Is the plot thickening because you're lying about what the article says? The National Archive didn't say "the complaint that Reade claimed to have filed against Biden doesn't exist," the National Archive said that they would not have a record of any Senate personnel complaints - including Reade's if it exists - from 1993 as those would stay in records controlled by the Senate.

In a statement and an interview Friday morning Biden denied the episode entirely, and said any record of the complaint, if it existed, would be in the National Archives.

And if we're keeping score of misguided information, Joe Biden was the one who said the record would be in the National Archives. The National Archives is now saying it would be with the Senate.

So in fact this story shows Joe Biden lying to try and exculpate himself. Telling people to look for records where he knows they won't exist, setting it up so his surrogates can say "Look, the records don't exist, Joe's innocent".

That or he got confused about which archive the records would be in.

[Kannap]

“The short answer is no — we don’t have those. Those records are with the Congress,” John Valceanu, director of communications for the archives, told Yahoo News.

The archives later put out a statement saying in its entirety: “Any records of Senate personnel complaints from 1993 would have remained under the control of the Senate. Accordingly inquiries related to these records should be directed to the Senate.” The office of the secretary of the Senate did not respond to a request for comment.

Is the plot thickening because you're lying about what the article says? The National Archive didn't say "the complaint that Reade claimed to have filed against Biden doesn't exist," the National Archive said that they would not have a record of any Senate personnel complaints - including Reade's if it exists - from 1993 as those would stay in records controlled by the Senate.

In a statement and an interview Friday morning Biden denied the episode entirely, and said any record of the complaint, if it existed, would be in the National Archives.

And if we're keeping score of misguided information, Joe Biden was the one who said the record would be in the National Archives. The National Archives is now saying it would be with the Senate.

So in fact this story shows Joe Biden lying to try and exculpate himself. Telling people to look for records where he knows they won't exist, setting it up so his surrogates can say "Look, the records don't exist, Joe's innocent".

That or he got confused about which archive the records would be in.

An agency official said it was possible that Congress has leased space at the National Archives that might contain such records from the congressional office — which has since changed its name to the Office of Congressional Workplace Rights. But, the official said, the archives does not control any such records or have custody of them. It was not immediately clear whether any of the congressional records being stored at the archives would include those from the employment office, even if the archives is unable to access them.

Congress does lease space at the National Archives, but that doesn't indicate what congressional records are stored there and what records are stored elsewhere. Besides, the National Archive doesn't have access to congressional records that congress stores in the space they lease there.

Asked for comment on the National Archives statement, the Biden campaign Friday night released a copy of a letter the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee sent to the Secretary of the Senate Julie Adams. "We had understood that the Senate stores records from [the fair employment office] and, from this period, in the National Archives," Biden wrote. "The Archives now states that the records would have remained under the control of the Senate.

"Accordingly, I request that you take or direct whatever steps are necessary to establish the location of the records of this Office and, once they have been located, to direct a search for the alleged complaint and to make public the results of this search."

As much as I dislike Biden and acknowledge he's lied about his political history during this campaign already, it doesn't appear he was lying this time. Appears he just misunderstood and thought the National Archive held these records, now he knows they don't.

EDIT: I admit after rereading that I may have misinterpreted the article myself a bit. Upon a re-reading, it seems very well that the records could be located at the National Archives, but the National Archives doesn't have access to those records if they're there - the Senate controls them. Either interpretation - wherever the records are stored - doesn't confirm Vassenor's declaration that the National Archive said Reade's complaint doesn't exist.

[Zurkerx]

The New York Times Editorial Board calls on the DNC to Investigate Tara Reade’s Allegations, which they say that despite her inconsistencies (including not having the complaint document while she kept other records unrelated to and the document not being found in the National Archives though this was an initial search), they implore the DNC to investigate the allegation, like they have for Kanavaugh, which would be the smart thing to do though I doubt some would trust the DNC to do a "clean investigation".

This comes as David Axelrod wrote an article stating that Obama's team fully vetted Biden in 2008 and found no hint of former aide's allegation (Opinion Piece by Axelrod himself). Essentially, he claims that Reade never mentioned said allegations to Obama's vetting team. As we all can clearly see, there is certainly chaos surrounding the Democratic Nominee, and not one Democrats expected.