2020 US General Election Thread VI: Covid for VP!

[Pythaga]

It’ll be interesting to see what he says about this one. If he outright denies it he could loose the hardcore #metoo people who say “believe women no matter what.”

He's already lost those people.

True as that may be, it’s not like they’re going to be voting for Trump instead. If he handles this situation with enough finesse he may be able to salvage a little bit of it, but it’s not looking good for him.

[Outer Sparta]

If you're so fixated on Biden's case, why don't you look at the tons of Trump sexual assault cases?

We did. In 2016. And I haven't forgotten. But I'll be damned if I'm gonna get dragged into some pathetic game of "who raped the most?" to see which rapist is the most electorally tolerable.

Tara Reade's case isn't credible. We can keep on investigating her claims but the fact that she changed stories multiple times is a red flag. The timing of the claims is also suspect - right after Bernie dropped out to endorse Biden. The MeToo movement has to watch out and falling into the trap of "believe women no matter what" will be dangerous to their movement and credibility.

[Liriena]

We did. In 2016. And I haven't forgotten. But I'll be damned if I'm gonna get dragged into some pathetic game of "who raped the most?" to see which rapist is the most electorally tolerable.

Tara Reade's case isn't credible. We can keep on investigating her claims but the fact that she changed stories multiple times is a red flag. The timing of the claims is also suspect - right after Bernie dropped out to endorse Biden. The MeToo movement has to watch out and falling into the trap of "believe women no matter what" will be dangerous to their movement and credibility.

This is an outright lie. Her story had been making the rounds since before that. Not her fault that mainstream media waited until Biden had no competition left to let the mainstream audience learn of it.

And it's not like Biden doesn't have a history of being creepy towards women. He does and much of it is on camera.

Also, MeToo already torpedoed their own credibility precisely because many of its leading figures went out of their way to pretend Tara Reade didn't exist at all or act like talking about her was a sin against party unity.

[Pythaga]

We did. In 2016. And I haven't forgotten. But I'll be damned if I'm gonna get dragged into some pathetic game of "who raped the most?" to see which rapist is the most electorally tolerable.

Tara Reade's case isn't credible. We can keep on investigating her claims but the fact that she changed stories multiple times is a red flag. The timing of the claims is also suspect - right after Bernie dropped out to endorse Biden. The MeToo movement has to watch out and falling into the trap of "believe women no matter what" will be dangerous to their movement and credibility.

The Kavanaugh accusations were rocky as well, I think anyone that the movement would have lost due to that sort of absolutism are already gone. I think that the real danger to the movement is loosing support from politicians who would rather see Biden win over backing the movement.

[Outer Sparta]

Tara Reade's case isn't credible. We can keep on investigating her claims but the fact that she changed stories multiple times is a red flag. The timing of the claims is also suspect - right after Bernie dropped out to endorse Biden. The MeToo movement has to watch out and falling into the trap of "believe women no matter what" will be dangerous to their movement and credibility.

The Kavanaugh accusations were rocky as well, I think anyone that the movement would have lost due to that sort of absolutism are already gone. I think that the real danger to the movement is loosing support from politicians who would rather see Biden win over backing the movement.

How were the Kavanaugh accusations rocky? Compare Ford's testimony to Reade's and you'll see a clear difference between the two.

[Gormwood]

And of course the allegations that Reade is a scam artist.

[Outer Sparta]

And of course the allegations that Reade is a scam artist.

Didn't she steal from Mare Rescue, a horse charity? $1400 to be exact.

[Shrillland]

Biden's now saying that he would keep our Israeli embassy in Jerusalem as president: https://www.yahoo.com/news/joe-biden-says-hed-leave-221537039.html

Makes sense though. Foreign policy, however disagreeable one may find it, is something that has to stay consistent regardless of party politics in the short term.

[Shrillland]

We also have a new poll for May.

[The JELLEAIN Republic]

The laughing stock of the world.
Dying from the inside.

...

Don’t look at the media personalities screaming at you.
Look at the hard data.
And make your own decisions.
The truth is in the numbers.

The US economy contracted 4.8% in the first quarter.

Overlook "greatest contraction since blah blah". Just go with the number. 4.8% isn't really that much.

Lol,
Comparing to other “hard data” is important.

[Outer Sparta]

Biden's now saying that he would keep our Israeli embassy in Jerusalem as president: https://www.yahoo.com/news/joe-biden-says-hed-leave-221537039.html

Makes sense though. Foreign policy, however disagreeable one may find it, is something that has to stay consistent regardless of party politics in the short term.

Exactly, considering I vehemently disagree with the Jerusalem embassy. A move back to Tel Aviv should be considered in the long run.

[Outer Sparta]

We also have a new poll for May.

I don't think Biden will pick Warren, but I'm very hoping he does pick her.

[The JELLEAIN Republic]

We also have a new poll for May.

I don't think Biden will pick Warren, but I'm very hoping he does pick her.

It would have been cool if he picked mitt Romney.
I just hope he doesn't pick Hillary Clinton, she is too divisive.

[Blargoblarg]

We also have a new poll for May.

No idea who Biden will pick, but unless he picks Sanders for his VP he's not getting my vote. And I highly doubt Biden would pick Sanders.

[Gormwood]

I don't think Biden will pick Warren, but I'm very hoping he does pick her.

It would have been cool if he picked mitt Romney.
I just hope he doesn't pick Hillary Clinton, she is too divisive.

Clinton as a pick is nothing but right-wing wet dream meme right under picking Harris.

[Necroghastia]

We also have a new poll for May.

No idea who Biden will pick, but unless he picks Sanders for his VP he's not getting my vote. And I highly doubt Biden would pick Sanders.

I'd lose some respect for Sanders and Biden both if that happened. Not that I have much for Biden anyway, but that just seems... dumb.

[Cannot think of a name]

We also have a new poll for May.

No idea who Biden will pick, but unless he picks Sanders for his VP he's not getting my vote. And I highly doubt Biden would pick Sanders.

Vice President isn't 'co-president'. They don't get to do much of anything unless the president gives them a pet project or someone needs to break a tie in the senate. He'd be going from a relatively powerful position in the Senate to a ceremonial one in the White House for...why? Some lost fans feel like he got the runner up prize?

If you like Sanders you don't want him anywhere near the Vice Presidency.

[Idzequitch]

Interesting. In 2016, the narrative was "A vote for Gary Johnson is basically a vote for the party I don't like!"

This time it seems like both parties are convinced that Justin Amash will actually draw more support away from the opponent's side and assure their own victory.

Meanwhile I just like the fact that Amash hasn't been accused of sexual misconduct. Such a high bar I ask candidates to hop over to to earn my vote.

[The Andromeda Island Group]

We also have a new poll for May.

No idea who Biden will pick, but unless he picks Sanders for his VP he's not getting my vote. And I highly doubt Biden would pick Sanders.

Do you want Bernie Sanders to go the way of a Walter Mondale or Ted Kennedy?

Bernie has helped move the Democratic Party leftward. That legacy itself is much more valuable than the Vice Presidency or a Cabinet post.

[Vassenor]

And now there's claims that Reade's allegations match something in a novel her dad wrote.

Pass the salt for the moment, I suppose.

[Myrensis]

Interesting. In 2016, the narrative was "A vote for Gary Johnson is basically a vote for the party I don't like!"

This time it seems like both parties are convinced that Justin Amash will actually draw more support away from the opponent's side and assure their own victory.

Meanwhile I just like the fact that Amash hasn't been accused of sexual misconduct. Such a high bar I ask candidates to hop over to to earn my vote.

I really don't expect him to have much affect at all. The Cult is not going to break away from Trump, and the only people on the left likely to find Amash appealing are the fringe anarcho-socialist types who think Bernie Sanders is too right-wing, aka people who were never going to vote for a Democrat regardless.

And now there's claims that Reade's allegations match something in a novel her dad wrote.

Pass the salt for the moment, I suppose.

In other not at all questionable news, Reade has apparently been editing posts she made last year regarding her original claims about Biden to more closely match her current accusation.

[The Andromeda Island Group]

Meanwhile I just like the fact that Amash hasn't been accused of sexual misconduct. Such a high bar I ask candidates to hop over to to earn my vote.

You do know that being ACCUSED of sexual misconduct doesn't mean that the accused engaged in sexual misconduct, right? Anyone can make an accusation.

As for Justin Amash, if he has any chance of winning the Presidency, don't be surprised if accusations come up against him as well.

[Vassenor]

No idea who Biden will pick, but unless he picks Sanders for his VP he's not getting my vote. And I highly doubt Biden would pick Sanders.

Do you want Bernie Sanders to go the way of a Walter Mondale or Ted Kennedy?

Bernie has helped move the Democratic Party leftward. That legacy itself is much more valuable than the Vice Presidency or a Cabinet post.

Problem is some people have apparently decided that Bernie not being in one of the big two seats apparently kills progressive politics forever somehow.

[Gormwood]

Interesting. In 2016, the narrative was "A vote for Gary Johnson is basically a vote for the party I don't like!"

This time it seems like both parties are convinced that Justin Amash will actually draw more support away from the opponent's side and assure their own victory.

Meanwhile I just like the fact that Amash hasn't been accused of sexual misconduct. Such a high bar I ask candidates to hop over to to earn my vote.

I really don't expect him to have much affect at all. The Cult is not going to break away from Trump, and the only people on the left likely to find Amash appealing are the fringe anarcho-socialist types who think Bernie Sanders is too right-wing, aka people who were never going to vote for a Democrat regardless.

And now there's claims that Reade's allegations match something in a novel her dad wrote.

Pass the salt for the moment, I suppose.

In other not at all questionable news, Reade has apparently been editing posts she made last year regarding her original claims about Biden to more closely match her current accusation.

That thrashing sound you hear is Rose McGowan's career sinking beneath the waves with Tara Reade's accusation.

[Maineiacs]

I really don't expect him to have much affect at all. The Cult is not going to break away from Trump, and the only people on the left likely to find Amash appealing are the fringe anarcho-socialist types who think Bernie Sanders is too right-wing, aka people who were never going to vote for a Democrat regardless.



In other not at all questionable news, Reade has apparently been editing posts she made last year regarding her original claims about Biden to more closely match her current accusation.

That thrashing sound you hear is Rose McGowan's career sinking beneath the waves with Tara Reade's accusation.

I wasn't aware Rose McGowan had a career to sink anymore.