2020 US General Election Thread VI: Covid for VP!

[Jerzylvania]

Twitter suspends Howie Hawkins’ account because reasons.

Jack Dorsey desperately taking down anyone that doesn’t subscribe to the Biden hivemind

In other news, the sun is bright

Dude, stop staring at the sun.

Twitter suspends Howie Hawkins’ account because reasons.

I'd fully support Twitter suspending all politician's Twitter accounts if it meant we didn't have to suffer Trump's outbursts.

I will second that.

I'm not especially caught up on my Tara Reade info. Could you provide some details of this history?

The most sensational allegations originate with a nonprofit that Tara Reade volunteered at (under the name Tara McCabe), Pregnant Mare Rescue. The woman who runs the place, Lynn Hummer, posted these allegations on Twitter, and provided photos and photos of documents to back up the allegations. Reade then fired back (yes, still on Twitter) accusing PMR of being a scam operation (but not denying that she worked there).

Basically, Reade stuck them with a $1400 vet bill on a horse that had been given to her from the rescue. Hummer also said she was aware of other activities Reade engaged in that were questionable (lying a lot, setting up a fraudulent GoFundMe, leaving a pile of debts behind when she skipped town). Other Twitter users dug up supporting documentation. Reade herself has admitted that the docs showing she went through bankruptcy with a pilo of debts when she left California were "her bankruptcy," i.e., legit, as part of her narratives about how she's being victimized by people daring to question her account.

It is trivially easy to verify that PMR exists, has been around for a while, has glowing reviews from volunteers and people who have adopted their horses, the occasional positive puff piece, et cetera. You can look at their tax returns on the IRS website (search here), where they detail their fundraising and annual expenses. That's not to say that they aren't a scam operation as Reade alleges, but there's no visible evidence of it outside of Reade's allegations. Conversely, if the docs posted by Hummer were fraudulent fakes, Hummer's posts would be handing Reade an open-and-shut defamation case.

Basically speaking, the accusations from Pregnant Mare Rescue have significantly more evidence in their favor than Tara Reade's accusations - there's documentary evidence, it's much more recent, there's a corroborating account from a witness (fellow volunteer), and there is a mound of positive evidence in the public domain in favor of the character of the accuser.

Nice post. So, Tara Reade is involved in fraudulent activity? Hmm. Why am I not surprised?

[Vassenor]

Twitter suspends Howie Hawkins’ account because reasons.

Jack Dorsey desperately taking down anyone that doesn’t subscribe to the Biden hivemind

In other news, the sun is bright

So why does Twitter have an aversion to removing all the Neo Nazis? They don't subscribe to this alleged "Biden hive mind" yet they're not banned.

[Aureumterra]

Jack Dorsey desperately taking down anyone that doesn’t subscribe to the Biden hivemind

In other news, the sun is bright

So why does Twitter have an aversion to removing all the Neo Nazis? They don't subscribe to this alleged "Biden hive mind" yet they're not banned.

Because no one actually cares what they think


Hawkins on the other hand is a fairly influential person compared to the average joe

[Vassenor]

So why does Twitter have an aversion to removing all the Neo Nazis? They don't subscribe to this alleged "Biden hive mind" yet they're not banned.

Because no one actually cares what they think


Hawkins on the other hand is a fairly influential person compared to the average joe

So when you say "anyone that doesn’t subscribe to the Biden hivemind" you don't actually mean "anyone that doesn’t subscribe to the Biden hivemind", just whatever furthers your conspiracy.

[Free Ward Marchers]

Because no one actually cares what they think


Hawkins on the other hand is a fairly influential person compared to the average joe

So when you say "anyone that doesn’t subscribe to the Biden hivemind" you don't actually mean "anyone that doesn’t subscribe to the Biden hivemind", just whatever furthers your conspiracy.

"Biden Hivemind" sounds like the shit my grandparents (who believe that the coronavirus was made by the Chinese government, and vaccines cause homosexuality) would say

[Aureumterra]

Because no one actually cares what they think


Hawkins on the other hand is a fairly influential person compared to the average joe

So when you say "anyone that doesn’t subscribe to the Biden hivemind" you don't actually mean "anyone that doesn’t subscribe to the Biden hivemind", just whatever furthers your conspiracy.

It’s not a conspiracy when Twitter is well-known to censor political speech

[Vassenor]

So when you say "anyone that doesn’t subscribe to the Biden hivemind" you don't actually mean "anyone that doesn’t subscribe to the Biden hivemind", just whatever furthers your conspiracy.

It’s not a conspiracy when Twitter is well-known to censor political speech

Yet they refuse to censor right-wing speech. Some leftist bias.

[Tahar Joblis]

The post in response to one of mine explains it better.

I saw later. Hmm, her credibility can be called into question then. Still doesn't mean what Biden did by violating her space is wrong, but it can lead to her more extraordinary claims being rejected. Either way, this case is a mess.

In other news, Biden and Sanders reach a deal on delegates to national convention. This shows a more concentrated effort to unite the party yet.

I think that's a really big deal.

The Sanders camp - the more rational parts of it, anyway (leaving aside the angry Twitterati) - have as a key goal pushing (small-d) democratic reforms through the Democratic Party's machinery. That has included, explicitly, trying to score delegates even after Sanders has dropped out of the presidential primary, because presidential primary delegates are who gets to vote at the national convention on rules & platform.

That's a pretty meaningful concession, and it should earn him a lot of goodwill from the Sanders faction of the party - many key members of that faction will show up at the convention (virtually or in person) knowing they owe Biden for their seat at the table.

[Post War America]

It’s not a conspiracy when Twitter is well-known to censor political speech

Yet they refuse to censor right-wing speech. Some leftist bias.

They're not going to censor fashy types, because people are actually afraid that fashy types will do a terrorism probably.

[Page]

Howie Hawkins has an impressive platform and he seems like a much better candidate than Jill Stein was. I browsed his website and I was impressed by the fact that he called for community control of the police, an issue I have strong feelings towards. And O like the fact that he is a union man.

[Aureumterra]

Yet they refuse to censor right-wing speech. Some leftist bias.

They're not going to censor fashy types, because people are actually afraid that fashy types will do a terrorism probably.

Or because no one actually cares about their crazy ramblings

[Washington Resistance Army]

Howie Hawkins has an impressive platform and he seems like a much better candidate than Jill Stein was. I browsed his website and I was impressed by the fact that he called for community control of the police, an issue I have strong feelings towards. And O like the fact that he is a union man.

No wonder Twitter took to censoring him. Seems like he could be popular amongst the left.

[Aureumterra]

much better candidate than Jill Stein was.

It’s not hard to be better than an anti vaxxer who thinks wifi causes cancer

[Corrian]

The post in response to one of mine explains it better.

I saw later. Hmm, her credibility can be called into question then. Still doesn't mean what Biden did by violating her space is wrong, but it can lead to her more extraordinary claims being rejected. Either way, this case is a mess.

In other news, Biden and Sanders reach a deal on delegates to national convention. This shows a more concentrated effort to unite the party yet.

Oh, iabsolutely believe that Biden didn't know what personal space is. We've seen that clear as day, and he even admitted he needs to get himself.

[Uiiop]

I saw later. Hmm, her credibility can be called into question then. Still doesn't mean what Biden did by violating her space is wrong, but it can lead to her more extraordinary claims being rejected. Either way, this case is a mess.

In other news, Biden and Sanders reach a deal on delegates to national convention. This shows a more concentrated effort to unite the party yet.

Oh, iabsolutely believe that Biden didn't know what personal space is. We've seen that clear as day, and he even admitted he needs to get himself.

Yet his campaign denies even that in regards to her.

It's definitely possible that's all that happened and she made the other stuff up to be clear. But if so absolute denial is shooting themselves in the foot.

[Gormwood]

Oh, iabsolutely believe that Biden didn't know what personal space is. We've seen that clear as day, and he even admitted he needs to get himself.

Yet his campaign denies even that in regards to her.

It's definitely possible that's all that happened and she made the other stuff up to be clear. But if so absolute denial is shooting themselves in the foot.

Or deying he fingered her.

[Corrian]

In other news, Biden and Sanders reach a deal on delegates to national convention. This shows a more concentrated effort to unite the party yet.

To address this more officially, this is absolutely great. This is a very smart decision on the part of the campaigns. So far I've been pretty happy with how everything has been handled, to be honest.

[Uiiop]

Yet his campaign denies even that in regards to her.

It's definitely possible that's all that happened and she made the other stuff up to be clear. But if so absolute denial is shooting themselves in the foot.

Or deying he fingered her.

They just said the allegations are false without differentiating.
That's pretty much reads as a blanket denial.

[San Lumen]

In other news, Biden and Sanders reach a deal on delegates to national convention. This shows a more concentrated effort to unite the party yet.

To address this more officially, this is absolutely great. This is a very smart decision on the part of the campaigns. So far I've been pretty happy with how everything has been handled, to be honest.

and hopefully this helps get Sanders supporters on board and they dont vote third party in the fall throwing the election to Trump again

[Corrian]

To address this more officially, this is absolutely great. This is a very smart decision on the part of the campaigns. So far I've been pretty happy with how everything has been handled, to be honest.

and hopefully this helps get Sanders supporters on board and they dont vote third party in the fall throwing the election to Trump again

Daily reminder that Sanders supporters voted for Clinton in greater numbers, faster, than Clinton supporters ever voted for Obama. So we can't really blame them for how they voted. It was just an overall shitty election year.

[San Lumen]

and hopefully this helps get Sanders supporters on board and they dont vote third party in the fall throwing the election to Trump again

Daily reminder that Sanders supporters voted for Clinton in greater numbers, faster, than Clinton supporters ever voted for Obama. So we can't really blame them for how they voted. It was just an overall shitty election year.

but enough didnt vote for Clinton that Trump won with a minority of the vote

[Tengoto]

Daily reminder that Sanders supporters voted for Clinton in greater numbers, faster, than Clinton supporters ever voted for Obama. So we can't really blame them for how they voted. It was just an overall shitty election year.

but enough didnt vote for Clinton that Trump won with a minority of the vote

Must be real hard to breathe up in that ivory tower of self-righteousness.

[Corrian]

Daily reminder that Sanders supporters voted for Clinton in greater numbers, faster, than Clinton supporters ever voted for Obama. So we can't really blame them for how they voted. It was just an overall shitty election year.

but enough didnt vote for Clinton that Trump won with a minority of the vote

And its the type that never would have. Big deal. It sucks, but going around blaming people doesn't help anyone.

[Corrian]

We just can't get rid of Kobach, can we?

[Zurkerx]

In other news, Biden and Sanders reach a deal on delegates to national convention. This shows a more concentrated effort to unite the party yet.

To address this more officially, this is absolutely great. This is a very smart decision on the part of the campaigns. So far I've been pretty happy with how everything has been handled, to be honest.

Indeed, it should bring the party together as Biden has made clear he doesn't want any division, it's just the allegations holding him up at this point, and some view points. Honestly, this is going better than the spat between Clinton and Sanders.

Daily reminder that Sanders supporters voted for Clinton in greater numbers, faster, than Clinton supporters ever voted for Obama. So we can't really blame them for how they voted. It was just an overall shitty election year.

but enough didnt vote for Clinton that Trump won with a minority of the vote

I don't fault people for not voting nor do I fault people voting third party: they were stuck with two terrible choices. If the Democrats or Republicans want people to vote for their candidate, they should select candidates that at least appeal to them but even then, those candidates must earn those votes: we're not obligated to back a particular because the other candidate may suck. Besides, 9 out of 10 Sanders supporters wind up backing Clinton but the Democratic Base in general was not so enthusiastic about her and were convinced that Trump wasn't going to win and thus, didn't turn out.

I suspect turnout will be larger this time around but it can't be from Democratic hot spots like California, New Jersey, New York, or Illinois. Nor should they rely on urban areas: they need to make inroads more in rural places and continue expanding their suburban appeal.