NATION

PASSWORD

2020 US General Election Thread VI: Covid for VP!

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

Advertisement

Remove ads

How do You Plan to Vote This Year?

At a Polling Place
40
22%
By Mail(If Allowed)
42
23%
Early Voting
6
3%
I Won't Vote
14
8%
I Can't Vote(To Young/Outside the US)
80
44%
 
Total votes : 182

User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 141532
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Ifreann » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:36 pm

Video has emerged of Tara Reade's mother phoning in to Larry King in 1993 to ask how her daughter might deal with "problems" she had with a prominent senator other than going to the press.

But you know, "problems" could be anything. This doesn't definitively prove that Biden sexually assaulted Tara Reade. No court would convict him based on an anonymous phone call to a talk show. Phrases you should all familiarise yourselves with, because I'm betting we'll hear them until the end of the Biden campaign.
Mistake Not My Current State Of Regular Thorough Handwashing For The Awesome And Terrible Majesty Of The Towering Seas Of Mask Wearing That Are Themselves The Mere Milquetoast Shallows Fringing My Vast Oceans Of Social Distancing
He/Him

You've got a lonesome road to walk, and it ain't along the railroad track, and it ain't along the black-top tar you walked a hundred times before.
I'll tell you where the real road lies: between your ears, behind your eyes. That is the path to paradise, likewise the road to ruin.

User avatar
Albrenia
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 12595
Founded: Aug 18, 2017
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Albrenia » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:38 pm

Ifreann wrote:Video has emerged of Tara Reade's mother phoning in to Larry King in 1993 to ask how her daughter might deal with "problems" she had with a prominent senator other than going to the press.

But you know, "problems" could be anything. This doesn't definitively prove that Biden sexually assaulted Tara Reade. No court would convict him based on an anonymous phone call to a talk show. Phrases you should all familiarise yourselves with, because I'm betting we'll hear them until the end of the Biden campaign.


Is there a way someone can waive the statute of limitations on something? This really needs legitimate investigating or else it creates huge problems for the coming election.

User avatar
The World Capitalist Confederation
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 12839
Founded: Dec 07, 2018
Capitalist Paradise

Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:39 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Duvniask wrote:Anyone who deals in statistics should knows about null-hypotheses, which as a rule assume no significance*, and that they are usually rejected when probability is estimated to be lower than 5% from a normal distribution (in this case, the sampling distribution of exit polls, assuming they are randomized).

*In this case, assumes no significant difference between the poll and the election result.

Also, using basic rules of probability for independent events, we multiply the chances of the event occurring with itself by each time it did. So if the exit polls had a ≤5% chance of being off each time, and that happened 5 times, then the probability of that happening is 0.055 = 0.0000003125 or 0.00003125%. In other words, not freaking likely.


A poll with a margin of error of, say, 3% and a 95% confidence interval, will tell you that the true value is within 3% of the estimate with 95% probability.

Let's say a hypothetical poll estimated 45% support for Sanders, margin of error 3%. Then we'd be able to say there's a 95% probability of the true population value being +/- 3 percentage points from 45%. The 95% confidence interval would thus be [0.42; 0.48]. If the actual result was 35% Sanders, then something would be very wrong here, either with the poll or the results themselves, because there was only a 5% chance of the results being more than 3 percentage points off (in our hypothetical example they were 10 percentage points off).


Also, the margin of error is dependent on the sample size, n, as it is calculated from multiplying the given critical value with the standard error (which contains the sample size). It is already taken into consideration. A smaller sample size will yield a larger standard error, which in turn yields a larger margin of error.


I know how MoE is calculated and what the means, that wasn't what my question was directed at.

What I am saying is that, let's say, there were five elections in which one candidate was off by 5% from the exit polling. Again, 0.055 = 0.00003125%.

In short, I think we'd need to take a look at exit polling vs state results and do that for every single state so far.
Please Watch
“We could manage to survive without the money changers and stockbrokers, but we would rather find it difficult to survive without miners, steel workers and those who cultivate the land.” - Nye Bevan, Minister of Health under Clement Attlee

“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

User avatar
Valrifell
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 27328
Founded: Aug 18, 2013
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Valrifell » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:39 pm

Ifreann wrote:Video has emerged of Tara Reade's mother phoning in to Larry King in 1993 to ask how her daughter might deal with "problems" she had with a prominent senator other than going to the press.

But you know, "problems" could be anything. This doesn't definitively prove that Biden sexually assaulted Tara Reade. No court would convict him based on an anonymous phone call to a talk show. Phrases you should all familiarise yourselves with, because I'm betting we'll hear them until the end of the Biden campaign.


Or for a month or two.
Sint Musis socii Charites, Furia omnis abesto

User avatar
Valrifell
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 27328
Founded: Aug 18, 2013
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Valrifell » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:41 pm

If Reade's story were orchestrated, it would've been far better to save it for an October surprise, doing it now serves no direct benefit considering how shaky it is. It's not terribly unlikely that this gets dropped as the news cycle progresses, since there's only so much the press can milk from this story.
Sint Musis socii Charites, Furia omnis abesto

User avatar
The World Capitalist Confederation
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 12839
Founded: Dec 07, 2018
Capitalist Paradise

Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:43 pm

Just looked at 538 for Super Tuesday.

It's some shady shit, particularly with Texas.
Please Watch
“We could manage to survive without the money changers and stockbrokers, but we would rather find it difficult to survive without miners, steel workers and those who cultivate the land.” - Nye Bevan, Minister of Health under Clement Attlee

“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

User avatar
Valrifell
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 27328
Founded: Aug 18, 2013
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Valrifell » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:45 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
I know how MoE is calculated and what the means, that wasn't what my question was directed at.

What I am saying is that, let's say, there were five elections in which one candidate was off by 5% from the exit polling. Again, 0.055 = 0.00003125%.

In short, I think we'd need to take a look at exit polling vs state results and do that for every single state so far.


That's not what you said originally, but okay.

Also note that multiplying probabilities together is only valid if the events are independent, and I'm quite hesitant to say that election primaries are disjoint from one another like a coin flip is, and it makes sense that the combinatorics involved would be a smidge more complex than that.

Conveniently, CNN has all the exit polls one could want. I'd figure I'd share this data as we trudge through together on this magical journey.
Sint Musis socii Charites, Furia omnis abesto

User avatar
Valrifell
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 27328
Founded: Aug 18, 2013
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Valrifell » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:47 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Just looked at 538 for Super Tuesday.

It's some shady shit, particularly with Texas.


You saying this without providing context or showing your work is getting old, I don't like having to ask for stuff that should've been in the post in the first place.
Sint Musis socii Charites, Furia omnis abesto

User avatar
The World Capitalist Confederation
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 12839
Founded: Dec 07, 2018
Capitalist Paradise

Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:49 pm

Valrifell wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:What I am saying is that, let's say, there were five elections in which one candidate was off by 5% from the exit polling. Again, 0.055 = 0.00003125%.

In short, I think we'd need to take a look at exit polling vs state results and do that for every single state so far.


That's not what you said originally, but okay.

Also note that multiplying probabilities together is only valid if the events are independent, and I'm quite hesitant to say that election primaries are disjoint from one another like a coin flip is, and it makes sense that the combinatorics involved would be a smidge more complex than that.

Conveniently, CNN has all the exit polls one could want. I'd figure I'd share this data as we trudge through together on this magical journey.

It's what I meant, sorry if I was unclear.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng- ... gates-live

Guardian has the totals. I can't find the total exit poll on CNN...
Please Watch
“We could manage to survive without the money changers and stockbrokers, but we would rather find it difficult to survive without miners, steel workers and those who cultivate the land.” - Nye Bevan, Minister of Health under Clement Attlee

“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 141532
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Ifreann » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:57 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Video has emerged of Tara Reade's mother phoning in to Larry King in 1993 to ask how her daughter might deal with "problems" she had with a prominent senator other than going to the press.

But you know, "problems" could be anything. This doesn't definitively prove that Biden sexually assaulted Tara Reade. No court would convict him based on an anonymous phone call to a talk show. Phrases you should all familiarise yourselves with, because I'm betting we'll hear them until the end of the Biden campaign.


Is there a way someone can waive the statute of limitations on something? This really needs legitimate investigating or else it creates huge problems for the coming election.

To the best of my knowledge no such option exists. But the statue of limitations pertains only to prosecutions. An investigation could proceed regardless, but that would be pretty unusual, and there would be big questions about who would conduct this investigation and to whom they would report.
Mistake Not My Current State Of Regular Thorough Handwashing For The Awesome And Terrible Majesty Of The Towering Seas Of Mask Wearing That Are Themselves The Mere Milquetoast Shallows Fringing My Vast Oceans Of Social Distancing
He/Him

You've got a lonesome road to walk, and it ain't along the railroad track, and it ain't along the black-top tar you walked a hundred times before.
I'll tell you where the real road lies: between your ears, behind your eyes. That is the path to paradise, likewise the road to ruin.

User avatar
Uiiop
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5809
Founded: Jun 20, 2012
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Uiiop » Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:23 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Is there a way someone can waive the statute of limitations on something? This really needs legitimate investigating or else it creates huge problems for the coming election.

To the best of my knowledge no such option exists. But the statue of limitations pertains only to prosecutions. An investigation could proceed regardless, but that would be pretty unusual, and there would be big questions about who would conduct this investigation and to whom they would report.

Well we know it's the DC metro conducting one.

But who they report to? I do not know.

User avatar
Cannot think of a name
Post Czar
 
Posts: 31610
Founded: Antiquity
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:24 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Is there a way someone can waive the statute of limitations on something? This really needs legitimate investigating or else it creates huge problems for the coming election.

To the best of my knowledge no such option exists. But the statue of limitations pertains only to prosecutions. An investigation could proceed regardless, but that would be pretty unusual, and there would be big questions about who would conduct this investigation and to whom they would report.

The sources for this lean in a particular direction but that seems to be a rating of newsworthiness rather than someone making something up, so excuse the use of the Examiner...
The Metropolitan Police Department of the District of Columbia is actively investigating the complaint against Joe Biden brought by Tara Reade, the woman who accused Biden of sexually assaulting her in 1993, despite her allegation being impossible to prosecute since it is past the statute of limitations.

“This is an active, ongoing investigation, and there are no further details to provide at this time,” a Metropolitan Police Department spokesperson told the Washington Examiner Tuesday regarding Reade’s case. “Cases that are handled by the Metropolitan Police Department’s Sexual Assault Unit go through a multi-review prior to being assigned a disposition. This case is progressing through the review process.”

The investigation remaining open, despite the alleged incident occurring past the statute of limitations, struck multiple experts as highly unusual.

On April 9, Reade filed an incident report with the D.C. police that said she “disclosed that she was the victim of a sexual assault which was committed by Subject-2 in 1993." Reade has confirmed that Subject-2 is Joe Biden, 77, who was a Delaware senator from 1973-2009 before becoming President Barack Obama's vice president.

Reade, 56, said that she filed an incident report for “safety reasons,” for the purpose of establishing a paper trail in case “something happened to me” and to show that she is serious about her allegation since it is illegal to make a false police report. Since coming forward with her allegations against Biden, she regularly receives threatening and vulgar messages, she told the Washington Examiner.

Because the incident is past the statute of limitations, she told the Washington Examiner that she expected the police to do no more than note her complaint and not investigate it. Reade told the Washington Examiner that she has no plans to sue Biden in civil court, where D.C. has removed the statute of limitations on sex crimes.


Also, weird thing caught in the net looking for clarification...Biden rejected a donation from Louis C.K.
The Biden presidential campaign announced on Wednesday that it would refund a $2,800 donation comedian Louis C.K., who has been accused of multiple instances of sexual misconduct.

The donation was made on March 4, according to Federal Election Commission records. That was one day after Biden’s sweeping Super Tuesday victories that put him on a path to defeat progressive rival Senator Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.).

Again probably an issue of what was considered newsworthy, this time from National Review.
Last edited by Cannot think of a name on Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:25 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Everything for the cat.

User avatar
Free Ward Marchers
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1031
Founded: Oct 31, 2017
Democratic Socialists

Postby Free Ward Marchers » Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:41 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Ifreann wrote:To the best of my knowledge no such option exists. But the statue of limitations pertains only to prosecutions. An investigation could proceed regardless, but that would be pretty unusual, and there would be big questions about who would conduct this investigation and to whom they would report.

The sources for this lean in a particular direction but that seems to be a rating of newsworthiness rather than someone making something up, so excuse the use of the Examiner...
The Metropolitan Police Department of the District of Columbia is actively investigating the complaint against Joe Biden brought by Tara Reade, the woman who accused Biden of sexually assaulting her in 1993, despite her allegation being impossible to prosecute since it is past the statute of limitations.

“This is an active, ongoing investigation, and there are no further details to provide at this time,” a Metropolitan Police Department spokesperson told the Washington Examiner Tuesday regarding Reade’s case. “Cases that are handled by the Metropolitan Police Department’s Sexual Assault Unit go through a multi-review prior to being assigned a disposition. This case is progressing through the review process.”

The investigation remaining open, despite the alleged incident occurring past the statute of limitations, struck multiple experts as highly unusual.

On April 9, Reade filed an incident report with the D.C. police that said she “disclosed that she was the victim of a sexual assault which was committed by Subject-2 in 1993." Reade has confirmed that Subject-2 is Joe Biden, 77, who was a Delaware senator from 1973-2009 before becoming President Barack Obama's vice president.

Reade, 56, said that she filed an incident report for “safety reasons,” for the purpose of establishing a paper trail in case “something happened to me” and to show that she is serious about her allegation since it is illegal to make a false police report. Since coming forward with her allegations against Biden, she regularly receives threatening and vulgar messages, she told the Washington Examiner.

Because the incident is past the statute of limitations, she told the Washington Examiner that she expected the police to do no more than note her complaint and not investigate it. Reade told the Washington Examiner that she has no plans to sue Biden in civil court, where D.C. has removed the statute of limitations on sex crimes.


Also, weird thing caught in the net looking for clarification...Biden rejected a donation from Louis C.K.
The Biden presidential campaign announced on Wednesday that it would refund a $2,800 donation comedian Louis C.K., who has been accused of multiple instances of sexual misconduct.

The donation was made on March 4, according to Federal Election Commission records. That was one day after Biden’s sweeping Super Tuesday victories that put him on a path to defeat progressive rival Senator Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.).

Again probably an issue of what was considered newsworthy, this time from National Review.


you would think after the Harvey Weinstein debacle they would extend the statute for sexual assault
Meridith Brookley (I-FL)

Self described Libertarian "Socialist" with a lean towards welfare capitalism
Proud Transgender Female

User avatar
Duvniask
Senator
 
Posts: 4522
Founded: Aug 30, 2012
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Duvniask » Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:25 am

Valrifell wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:What I am saying is that, let's say, there were five elections in which one candidate was off by 5% from the exit polling. Again, 0.055 = 0.00003125%.

In short, I think we'd need to take a look at exit polling vs state results and do that for every single state so far.


That's not what you said originally, but okay.

Also note that multiplying probabilities together is only valid if the events are independent, and I'm quite hesitant to say that election primaries are disjoint from one another like a coin flip is, and it makes sense that the combinatorics involved would be a smidge more complex than that.

Unless there was some kind of election tampering or the polls had sampling bias, why wouldn't the probabilities be independent of each other? If they were dependent it would mean there's something that was present the first time the margin of error was exceeded that also caused the margin of error to be exceeded the second time; that is precisely indicative of a poll lacking proper randomization or election tampering.

Conveniently, CNN has all the exit polls one could want. I'd figure I'd share this data as we trudge through together on this magical journey.

Keep in mind that at least in the United States, exit polls are adjusted live (this was also the case with CNN) to match the reported election outcome. In other words, as the American Association for Public Opinion Research (see link) explains; "It is important to note that after the votes have been counted, the exit poll results are adjusted to match the actual election outcomes. It is in this way that the final exit poll data can be used for its primary and most important purpose – to shed light on why the election turned out the way it did." They do it with the intention of predicting (i.e. calling the state for who they think is going to win; typical of the 24/7 News cycle) and dissecting the results afterward.

The final adjusted results are thus dependent on the election outcome and are not particularly useful for trying to infer election tampering. I mean how would they be, they were fitted to the result, which may or may not have been fraudulent. They aren't election verification exit polls, they're media polling done for the purposes of fast reporting. I assume those who expressed concern that the margin of error was exceeded had taken the first batch of unadjusted results and used that data, not the final batch that you'll now find on the CNN website.
Last edited by Duvniask on Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:27 am, edited 1 time in total.
Out of the ashes
The eagle rises still
Freedom is calling
To all men who bend their will

Lowly Marxian student of political science. Servant of anTIFA.

User avatar
Vassenor
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 52958
Founded: Nov 11, 2010
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Vassenor » Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:00 am

Has anyone actually found the formal complaint she claims to have filed back in the day? Should be something that can be FOI'd given that it's required to be recorded.
Jenny / Sailor Astraea
WOMAN

MtF trans and proud - She / Her / etc.
100% Asbestos Free

Team Mystic
#iamEUropean

User avatar
Greater vakolicci haven
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 18660
Founded: May 09, 2014
Anarchy

Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:05 am

Free Ward Marchers wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:The sources for this lean in a particular direction but that seems to be a rating of newsworthiness rather than someone making something up, so excuse the use of the Examiner...


Also, weird thing caught in the net looking for clarification...Biden rejected a donation from Louis C.K.

Again probably an issue of what was considered newsworthy, this time from National Review.


you would think after the Harvey Weinstein debacle they would extend the statute for sexual assault

A bad crime doesn't mean we instantly get harsher on similar crimes. That's what we call kneejerking.
Join the rejected realms and never fear rejection again
NSG virtual happy hour this Saturday: join us on zoom, what could possibly go wrong?
“I predict future happiness for Americans, if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.” - Thomas Jefferson
“Silent acquiescence in the face of tyranny is no better than outright agreement." - C.J. Redwine
“The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles." - Jeff Cooper

User avatar
Zurkerx
Game Moderator
 
Posts: 8002
Founded: Jan 20, 2011
Anarchy

Postby Zurkerx » Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:35 am

Donald Trump set to fall back on xenophobia with re-election plan in tatters

I believe this is an opinion piece but I mean, he's already been doing that.
A Golden Civic: the New Pragmatic Libertarian.
My Words: Indeed, Indubitably & Malarkey
Retired Admin in NSGS and NS Parliament

Accountant, Author, History Buff, Political Junkie
Biden 2020: Vote for America
"Try not to become a person of success, but rather try to become a person of value." Albert Einstein
"Trust, but verify." Ronald Reagan

User avatar
Celritannia
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 9608
Founded: Nov 10, 2010
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Celritannia » Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:38 am

Zurkerx wrote:Donald Trump set to fall back on xenophobia with re-election plan in tatters

I believe this is an opinion piece but I mean, he's already been doing that.


He has, which why I don't understand why people want to vote for him. Breaking America into sects rather than uniting people is never a good policy.

My DeviantArt
Obey
When you annoy a Celritannian
U W0T M8?
Zirkagrad wrote:A person with a penchant for flying lions with long tongues, could possibly be a fan of Kiss. Maybe the classiest nation with a lion with its tongue hanging out. Enjoys only the finest tea.

Nakena wrote:NSG's Most Serene Salad

Crysuko wrote:My little crony: corruption is magic
Citizen of Earth, Commonwealthian, European, British, Yorkshireman.
Atheist, Environmentalist, Pansexual, Left-Libertarian.

User avatar
Vassenor
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 52958
Founded: Nov 11, 2010
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Vassenor » Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:41 am

Zurkerx wrote:Donald Trump set to fall back on xenophobia with re-election plan in tatters

I believe this is an opinion piece but I mean, he's already been doing that.


It's not xenophobia, it's economic anxiety.
Jenny / Sailor Astraea
WOMAN

MtF trans and proud - She / Her / etc.
100% Asbestos Free

Team Mystic
#iamEUropean

User avatar
Pax Nerdvana
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 14633
Founded: May 22, 2017
Anarchy

Postby Pax Nerdvana » Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:47 am

I finally got around to mailing my registration yesterday. Now I'm trying to figure out who to vote for that isn't Trump or Biden. Trump isn't terribly competent, and I don't really like Biden.
I am an American Christian male who is interested in various things, like SF, classic rock, guns, space travel, military history, and video games (Nintendo/retro). Franchises I like include Star Wars, Star Trek, and Transformers. #freekyle
Quotes
"The universe did never make sense; I suspect it was built on government contract."
-Robert Heinlein

"Affordability
Suitability (.22LR for squirrels, bigger .22s for long range little things, and big-bore for legal hunting reasons, etc)
Ammunition supply-chain (6.5x55 Swede and .303 British, although available, isn't exactly everywhere)
If it's ugly, uncomfortable, and can't shoot straight, but it accomplishes the above, then it's either a Mosin of a Hi-Point."
-Hurtful Thoughts on stuff you want in a gun

User avatar
Celritannia
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 9608
Founded: Nov 10, 2010
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Celritannia » Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:58 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:I finally got around to mailing my registration yesterday. Now I'm trying to figure out who to vote for that isn't Trump or Biden. Trump isn't terribly competent, and I don't really like Biden.


Who else is on the voting slip out of curiosity?

My DeviantArt
Obey
When you annoy a Celritannian
U W0T M8?
Zirkagrad wrote:A person with a penchant for flying lions with long tongues, could possibly be a fan of Kiss. Maybe the classiest nation with a lion with its tongue hanging out. Enjoys only the finest tea.

Nakena wrote:NSG's Most Serene Salad

Crysuko wrote:My little crony: corruption is magic
Citizen of Earth, Commonwealthian, European, British, Yorkshireman.
Atheist, Environmentalist, Pansexual, Left-Libertarian.

User avatar
Zurkerx
Game Moderator
 
Posts: 8002
Founded: Jan 20, 2011
Anarchy

Postby Zurkerx » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:01 am

Celritannia wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:I finally got around to mailing my registration yesterday. Now I'm trying to figure out who to vote for that isn't Trump or Biden. Trump isn't terribly competent, and I don't really like Biden.


Who else is on the voting slip out of curiosity?


Well, unless Amash runs for the Libertarians, than you'll see Jacob Hornberger be their nominee. The Greens nominee is likely Howie Hawkins and Don Blankenship is likely going to be the Constitution Party's nominee.
A Golden Civic: the New Pragmatic Libertarian.
My Words: Indeed, Indubitably & Malarkey
Retired Admin in NSGS and NS Parliament

Accountant, Author, History Buff, Political Junkie
Biden 2020: Vote for America
"Try not to become a person of success, but rather try to become a person of value." Albert Einstein
"Trust, but verify." Ronald Reagan

User avatar
Telconi
Post Czar
 
Posts: 33657
Founded: Oct 08, 2016
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Telconi » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:30 am

Celritannia wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:Donald Trump set to fall back on xenophobia with re-election plan in tatters

I believe this is an opinion piece but I mean, he's already been doing that.


He has, which why I don't understand why people want to vote for him. Breaking America into sects rather than uniting people is never a good policy.


America is already broken, pretending otherwise is a trash idea.
-2.25 LEFT
-3.23 LIBERTARIAN

PRO:
-Weapons Rights
-Gender Equality
-LGBTQ Rights
-Racial Equality
-Religious Freedom
-Freedom of Speech
-Freedom of Association
-Life
-Limited Government
-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

"The Constitution is NOT an instrument for the government to restrain the people,it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government-- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." ~ Patrick Henry

User avatar
South Odreria 2
Minister
 
Posts: 3100
Founded: Aug 26, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby South Odreria 2 » Sun Apr 26, 2020 10:04 am

Jacob Hornberger = lame
Valrifell wrote:
Disregard whatever this poster says

User avatar
Corrian
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 70845
Founded: Mar 19, 2011
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Corrian » Sun Apr 26, 2020 10:12 am

Post War America wrote:
Inhorto wrote:

To both of these: in what way? I'm asking you to divorce your political leanings for a moment and consider her potential as a candidate. I believe it's objectively a good choice.


Her record includes the delightful action of locking people up for their kid's truancy, and standing against criminal justice reform, these are not good things.

Then claiming she was for criminal justice reform when she ran.
My Last.FM and RYM

RP's hosted by me: The Last of Us RP's

Look on the bright side, one day you'll be dead~Street Sects

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: -SARS-, Dazchan, Fahran, Greed and Death, Heloin, Koem Kab, Kohr, Luminesa, Nobel Hobos 2, Saiwania, Stegosaurus Territory, The Greater Ohio Valley, The Two Jerseys, Washington Resistance Army

Advertisement

Remove ads