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by South Odreria 2 » Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:49 am
Myrensis wrote:Yeah, the whole "She didn't say anything out of respect for him." bit is...really weird. It tracks with her original story that he had rubbed her neck and shoulders uncomfortably, but "She didn't want to tell anyone that he sexually assaulted her because she knew he was a busy man and didn't want to make things difficult for him." is kind of...odd.
Valrifell wrote:
Disregard whatever this poster says
by Kannap » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:29 pm
Luna Amore wrote:Please remember to attend the ritualistic burning of Kannap for heresy
by Telconi » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:43 pm
by Kannap » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:54 pm
Luna Amore wrote:Please remember to attend the ritualistic burning of Kannap for heresy
by Inhorto » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:23 pm
by Valrifell » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:33 pm
Inhorto wrote:Telconi wrote:
Biden could go to Sing Sing and pick an inmate number out of a hat and make a better pick than Harris.
Why? She's African American, passionate, a woman, has a relatively good record (Republicans aren't going to come after someone for being a tough prosecutor; that's what they like), and young. She has a lot of the energy that Biden struggles to capture. I'd agree that she isn't the best, but she's a solid pick.
by Duvniask » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:35 pm
Valrifell wrote:Inhorto wrote:Why? She's African American, passionate, a woman, has a relatively good record (Republicans aren't going to come after someone for being a tough prosecutor; that's what they like), and young. She has a lot of the energy that Biden struggles to capture. I'd agree that she isn't the best, but she's a solid pick.
She's more or less ethically compromised so blatantly to a degree that's hard to find even in Washington.
by Northern Davincia » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:35 pm
Inhorto wrote:Telconi wrote:
Biden could go to Sing Sing and pick an inmate number out of a hat and make a better pick than Harris.
Why? She's African American, passionate, a woman, has a relatively good record (Republicans aren't going to come after someone for being a tough prosecutor; that's what they like), and young. She has a lot of the energy that Biden struggles to capture. I'd agree that she isn't the best, but she's a solid pick.
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by Inhorto » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:37 pm
Valrifell wrote:Inhorto wrote:Why? She's African American, passionate, a woman, has a relatively good record (Republicans aren't going to come after someone for being a tough prosecutor; that's what they like), and young. She has a lot of the energy that Biden struggles to capture. I'd agree that she isn't the best, but she's a solid pick.
She's more or less ethically compromised so blatantly to a degree that's hard to find even in Washington.
Northern Davincia wrote:Inhorto wrote:Why? She's African American, passionate, a woman, has a relatively good record (Republicans aren't going to come after someone for being a tough prosecutor; that's what they like), and young. She has a lot of the energy that Biden struggles to capture. I'd agree that she isn't the best, but she's a solid pick.
She's a tyrant in waiting.
by Post War America » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:38 pm
Gravlen wrote:The famous Bowling Green Massacre is yesterday's news. Today it's all about the Cricket Blue Carnage. Tomorrow it'll be about the Curling Yellow Annihilation.
by Valrifell » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:39 pm
Inhorto wrote:Valrifell wrote:
She's more or less ethically compromised so blatantly to a degree that's hard to find even in Washington.Northern Davincia wrote:She's a tyrant in waiting.
To both of these: in what way? I'm asking you to divorce your political leanings for a moment and consider her potential as a candidate. I believe it's objectively a good choice.
by Post War America » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:39 pm
Inhorto wrote:Valrifell wrote:
She's more or less ethically compromised so blatantly to a degree that's hard to find even in Washington.Northern Davincia wrote:She's a tyrant in waiting.
To both of these: in what way? I'm asking you to divorce your political leanings for a moment and consider her potential as a candidate. I believe it's objectively a good choice.
Gravlen wrote:The famous Bowling Green Massacre is yesterday's news. Today it's all about the Cricket Blue Carnage. Tomorrow it'll be about the Curling Yellow Annihilation.
by Northern Davincia » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:39 pm
Inhorto wrote:Valrifell wrote:
She's more or less ethically compromised so blatantly to a degree that's hard to find even in Washington.Northern Davincia wrote:She's a tyrant in waiting.
To both of these: in what way? I'm asking you to divorce your political leanings for a moment and consider her potential as a candidate. I believe it's objectively a good choice.
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by Cannot think of a name » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:41 pm
by Inhorto » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:45 pm
Post War America wrote:Inhorto wrote:
To both of these: in what way? I'm asking you to divorce your political leanings for a moment and consider her potential as a candidate. I believe it's objectively a good choice.
Her record includes the delightful action of locking people up for their kid's truancy, and standing against criminal justice reform, these are not good things.
by Kannap » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:47 pm
Inhorto wrote:Post War America wrote:
Her record includes the delightful action of locking people up for their kid's truancy, and standing against criminal justice reform, these are not good things.
But the people that care about stuff like this, the people who are preoccupied with judicial reform, aren't the ones that really matter here. To win, Biden needs to shore up support among the blue-collar workers in states like Michigan that Obama won but Clinton lost. Those people don't really care that Harris was a particularly harsh prosecutor. What Biden does need is a young, enthusiastic, well-spoken woman with national name recognition. Kamala Harris is one of few in that field.
Plus, anything can be given a spin. She was just a strong prosecutor with a history of bringing criminals to justice or what have you. Her being an aggressive prosecutor is just going to turn off progressives who won't really be that important a demographic come election. African Americans and other minorities will, however.
Luna Amore wrote:Please remember to attend the ritualistic burning of Kannap for heresy
by Telconi » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:51 pm
Kannap wrote:Inhorto wrote:But the people that care about stuff like this, the people who are preoccupied with judicial reform, aren't the ones that really matter here. To win, Biden needs to shore up support among the blue-collar workers in states like Michigan that Obama won but Clinton lost. Those people don't really care that Harris was a particularly harsh prosecutor. What Biden does need is a young, enthusiastic, well-spoken woman with national name recognition. Kamala Harris is one of few in that field.
Plus, anything can be given a spin. She was just a strong prosecutor with a history of bringing criminals to justice or what have you. Her being an aggressive prosecutor is just going to turn off progressives who won't really be that important a demographic come election. African Americans and other minorities will, however.
Will the amount of voters brought on board by Kamala outweigh the number of voters turned off of a Biden/Harris ticket?
by Inhorto » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:51 pm
Kannap wrote:Inhorto wrote:But the people that care about stuff like this, the people who are preoccupied with judicial reform, aren't the ones that really matter here. To win, Biden needs to shore up support among the blue-collar workers in states like Michigan that Obama won but Clinton lost. Those people don't really care that Harris was a particularly harsh prosecutor. What Biden does need is a young, enthusiastic, well-spoken woman with national name recognition. Kamala Harris is one of few in that field.
Plus, anything can be given a spin. She was just a strong prosecutor with a history of bringing criminals to justice or what have you. Her being an aggressive prosecutor is just going to turn off progressives who won't really be that important a demographic come election. African Americans and other minorities will, however.
Will the amount of voters brought on board by Kamala outweigh the number of voters turned off of a Biden/Harris ticket?
by Post War America » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:52 pm
Inhorto wrote:Post War America wrote:
Her record includes the delightful action of locking people up for their kid's truancy, and standing against criminal justice reform, these are not good things.
But the people that care about stuff like this, the people who are preoccupied with judicial reform, aren't the ones that really matter here. To win, Biden needs to shore up support among the blue-collar workers in states like Michigan that Obama won but Clinton lost. Those people don't really care that Harris was a particularly harsh prosecutor. What Biden does need is a young, enthusiastic, well-spoken woman with national name recognition. Kamala Harris is one of few in that field.
Plus, anything can be given a spin. She was just a strong prosecutor with a history of bringing criminals to justice or what have you. Her being an aggressive prosecutor is just going to turn off progressives who won't really be that important a demographic come election. African Americans and other minorities will, however.
Gravlen wrote:The famous Bowling Green Massacre is yesterday's news. Today it's all about the Cricket Blue Carnage. Tomorrow it'll be about the Curling Yellow Annihilation.
by Zurkerx » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:53 pm
Myrensis wrote:Zurkerx wrote:
Indeed though we should note it doesn't specifically reference that incident. As Corrian said, if Reade was sexually assaulted like she was, why would the mother "she didn't want to ruin the senator's credibility"? This case is baffling and there are so many loops to jump through that her case is just weak. Now, I think there's a good chance that Biden didn't respect his space and it likely creep her out. After all, she didn't mention the grotesque details until about a year after she made the allegation. As I (and Reagan) would say: Trust, but verify.
Yeah, the whole "She didn't say anything out of respect for him." bit is...really weird. It tracks with her original story that he had rubbed her neck and shoulders uncomfortably, but "She didn't want to tell anyone that he sexually assaulted her because she knew he was a busy man and didn't want to make things difficult for him." is kind of...odd.
by Inhorto » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:56 pm
Post War America wrote:Inhorto wrote:But the people that care about stuff like this, the people who are preoccupied with judicial reform, aren't the ones that really matter here. To win, Biden needs to shore up support among the blue-collar workers in states like Michigan that Obama won but Clinton lost. Those people don't really care that Harris was a particularly harsh prosecutor. What Biden does need is a young, enthusiastic, well-spoken woman with national name recognition. Kamala Harris is one of few in that field.
Plus, anything can be given a spin. She was just a strong prosecutor with a history of bringing criminals to justice or what have you. Her being an aggressive prosecutor is just going to turn off progressives who won't really be that important a demographic come election. African Americans and other minorities will, however.
I'm pretty sure the people you're talking about would care more about a prosecutorial record than issues of identity. Quite frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if being a black woman turned off a not insubstantial chunk. Really insisting on, for lack of a better term, diversity picks is done to shore up liberal and leftist support than anything else.
by Gormwood » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:56 pm
by Northern Davincia » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:56 pm
Inhorto wrote:Kannap wrote:
Will the amount of voters brought on board by Kamala outweigh the number of voters turned off of a Biden/Harris ticket?
Definitively. The people who would be turned off by a Biden/Harris ticket are the same types of people that would be turned off by Biden himself. Biden doesn't actually have to appeal to young, progressive voters, which is why Warren will certainly not be his pick. They don't vote. And if you don't vote, you don't matter. That's really it.
Kamala is passionate and establishment. She can rile people up and balance out Biden's fumbles. It's literally the perfect mix. It's going to either be her or Whitmer. My bet is on the latter, though.
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
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