2020 US General Election Thread VI: Covid for VP!

[Northern Davincia]

I hope it opens to door for land charters in outer space, because that could be really profitably and a great potential business

Space isn't meant to be raped for profit. It's meant to be preserved for science and exploration only.

It's supposed to be the one place that hasn't been corrupted by Capitalism.

It is mankind's birthright to colonize space and build a McDonald's on the moon.

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I don't know if Biden is a sexual predator or not but if he is it's just icing on the shit cake. And it doesn't really matter because he's going to lose.

[Northern Davincia]

I am satisfied that Trump's a rapist. I just said that no one believes him when he says he didn't rape his ex-wife. I wasn't excluding myself from that statement.

That is a horrifying thing to be satisfied in.

[Vassenor]

I don't know if Biden is a sexual predator or not but if he is it's just icing on the shit cake. And it doesn't really matter because he's going to lose.

Oh right, I forgot every single thing the Democrats do guarantees Trump 2020 because facts and reasons and logic.

[The Black Forrest]

I don't know if Biden is a sexual predator or not but if he is it's just icing on the shit cake. And it doesn't really matter because he's going to lose.

The tanked economy and all his best “deals” say otherwise. His China “deal” is said to do next to nothing for the small farmers who suffered greatly under his trade war.

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I don't know if Biden is a sexual predator or not but if he is it's just icing on the shit cake. And it doesn't really matter because he's going to lose.

Oh right, I forgot every single thing the Democrats do guarantees Trump 2020 because facts and reasons and logic.

1) Republican Lite Dems consistently lose to Republicans in national, state, and local elections.

2) A Democrat can't win without strong support from the left, which Biden doesn't have.

3) We're in the middle of a pandemic and people are living in fear, and people living in fear tend to support incumbents because they want to believe their leaders are competent people capable of saving them, because believing that the people in charge during a crisis are terrible is a scary thing people don't want to face up to.

[Valrifell]

Oh right, I forgot every single thing the Democrats do guarantees Trump 2020 because facts and reasons and logic.

2) A Democrat can't win without strong support from the left,

This point is an open question, considering that several gains in the 2018 midterms can be better explained by a shift in suburbs, not an increase youth or left vote. Though in some places gains were definitely explained by more Leftist voters.

[Galloism]

I do believe you’re missing the point of Iffy’s post. His position appears to be opposite mine.

I think Biden is wrong to presume guilt of the accused, whether that’s Trump or Biden.

Iffy seems to think Biden is correct to presume guilt of the accused, whether Trump or Biden.

Both of us are pointing out the rampant and obvious double standard of presuming Trump’s guilt and Biden’s innocence, based on whether they have a (R) or a (D).

Did you defend Kav as being innocent?

Is it a double standard if the timing suggests a political investigation?

As I have said he should be investigated; just as trump should be investigated from the 14 or 16 such claims.

Biden won’t be investigated as the trump party knows it opens the door to their boss being investigated. They just like the idea of the claims being out there.....

I actually did defend Kav's right to be presumed innocent. Still do, as nothing in particular has been noteworthy to prove his guilt.

And keep in mind, the timing on all these has suggested a political investigation, without exclusion - Trump's, Kav's, Biden's, etc. Because it always comes out when they're running for something.

If they weren't running for something, it wouldn't be newsworthy. They still get a presumption of innocence.

[Jerzylvania]

I don't know if Biden is a sexual predator or not but if he is it's just icing on the shit cake. And it doesn't really matter because he's going to lose.

Oh right, I forgot every single thing the Democrats do guarantees Trump 2020 because facts and reasons and logic.

Iirc Page is featured in the dictionary as the definition of a sore loser.

[Ifreann]

I am satisfied that Trump's a rapist. I just said that no one believes him when he says he didn't rape his ex-wife. I wasn't excluding myself from that statement.

That is a horrifying thing to be satisfied in.

Not satisfied in, satisfied that. Do you understand the distinction, or should I explain it for you?

[New Socialist South Africa]

I don't know if Biden is a sexual predator or not but if he is it's just icing on the shit cake. And it doesn't really matter because he's going to lose.

It's waaaay too early to call the election now, either for Trump or for Biden. Right now most of the polls suggest that if the election was today, Biden would beat Trump comfortably, but a lot can change in *checks calendar* a little under seven months.

Maybe Trump will completely bungle the response to COVID-19 and the economy will completely collapse, which might make a Biden victory more likely. Or Americans will want a strong leader in a crisis and turn to Trump, viewing Biden's tendency towards incoherent rambling as weak, while Trump exudes more confidence when he rambles incoherently.

Maybe Trump will destroy Biden in the debates, which will help his re-election, or maybe Biden will show some of the strength he has show in some prior debates and expose Trump's handling of COVID-19 to be as sloppy as it is, and grow his lead in the polls over him.

Maybe Biden will pick a great running mate, like Tammy Baldwin, and she'll help him appeal to left-wing voters and excite people. Or maybe he'll pick someone like Amy Klobuchar, and she'll drone on about 'decorum' and 'decency', which really excites a lot of liberals, but not really anyone else. Honestly, either of them could actually help him win though, just for different reasons, and there are a lot of great, decent and kind of meh choices for him to choose from.

We are just going to have to wait and see what happens in the next seven months.

[Northern Davincia]

That is a horrifying thing to be satisfied in.

Not satisfied in, satisfied that. Do you understand the distinction, or should I explain it for you?

Then where does this satisfaction derive from which removes all doubt from your mind?

[Jerzylvania]

The Big Question to voters in 2020 - Do you want Trump continuing as the decision maker in the ongoing CoVID-19 pandemic or would you prefer former VP Joe Biden instead?

[Northern Davincia]

The Big Question to voters in 2020 - Do you want Trump continuing as the decision maker in the ongoing CoVID-19 pandemic or would you prefer former VP Joe Biden instead?

The correct answer is John McAfee.

[Loben The 2nd]

I hope it opens to door for land charters in outer space, because that could be really profitably and a great potential business

Space isn't meant to be raped for profit. It's meant to be preserved for science and exploration only.

It's supposed to be the one place that hasn't been corrupted by Capitalism.

If there’s resources we can use then we have every right to them.

[Jerzylvania]

The Big Question to voters in 2020 - Do you want Trump continuing as the decision maker in the ongoing CoVID-19 pandemic or would you prefer former VP Joe Biden instead?

The correct answer is John McAfee.

Why?

[Northern Davincia]

The correct answer is John McAfee.

Why?

He is a faster accelerationist route than Trump.

[Cisairse]

Are we just all gonna ignore a rather credible rape accusation against Joe Biden?

Until it's proven, yeah, pretty much.

[Vassenor]

Are we just all gonna ignore a rather credible rape accusation against Joe Biden?

Until it's proven, yeah, pretty much.

But that clearly means you don't believe survivors because you're supposed to be advocating for him to be punished without question.

[Ngelmish]

Oh right, I forgot every single thing the Democrats do guarantees Trump 2020 because facts and reasons and logic.

1) Republican Lite Dems consistently lose to Republicans in national, state, and local elections.

2) A Democrat can't win without strong support from the left, which Biden doesn't have.

3) We're in the middle of a pandemic and people are living in fear, and people living in fear tend to support incumbents because they want to believe their leaders are competent people capable of saving them, because believing that the people in charge during a crisis are terrible is a scary thing people don't want to face up to.

By your standards, almost every Democrat who has won on the national level is Republican lite, which alone renders your first (and angriest!) point nonsensical.

[Jerzylvania]

Why?

He is a faster accelerationist route than Trump.

Incomplete. Elaborate on how that fights the continuing pandemic.

[Northern Davincia]

He is a faster accelerationist route than Trump.

Incomplete. Elaborate on how that fights the continuing pandemic.

That is a different question from what you were asking before. McAfee has no plan for dealing with the pandemic, but his presidency would dismantle the federal government as we know it. The pandemic drives future distrust for the government.

[Cisairse]

Incomplete. Elaborate on how that fights the continuing pandemic.

That is a different question from what you were asking before. McAfee has no plan for dealing with the pandemic, but his presidency would dismantle the federal government as we know it. The pandemic drives future distrust for the government.

McAfee isn't running for president, though.

[Galloism]

That is a different question from what you were asking before. McAfee has no plan for dealing with the pandemic, but his presidency would dismantle the federal government as we know it. The pandemic drives future distrust for the government.

McAfee isn't running for president, though.

Yes he is.

Sort of.

[Cisairse]

McAfee isn't running for president, though.

Yes he is.

Sort of.

No, he's not. He withdrew his candidacy.

He's said that he intends to seek the vice presidency alongside Vermin Supreme, but iirc Supreme has already said no.