Now that their chosen one has been once again Cheated By A DNC Rigged Primary they'll happily reach for any toy to throw out of the crib.
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by Gormwood » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:21 am
by Galloism » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:23 am
Vassenor wrote:New Socialist South Africa wrote:Can we talk about the fact that most supposedly "respectable" media sites just aren't talking about Tara Reade's allegations that Joe Biden sexually assaulted her back in 1993?
See: https://www.vox.com/2020/3/27/21195935/joe-biden-sexual-assault-allegation
https://theintercept.com/2020/03/24/joe-biden-metoo-times-up/
https://soundcloud.com/katie-halper/tara-to-post
I get that COVID-19 is important to report on, I get that it would dominate the news, but really, I can find nothing from CNN, MSNBC, The New York Times, the Washington Post, any of them.
Maybe they are just a bit slow on taking this up, but I can't help but worry that some journalists might be tempted to not report on this, out of fear that it might hurt Biden (who by now will almost certainly be the Democratic nominee), and thus help Trump.
This seems like this should at least be news people take seriously, but I'm not seeing anything from news sites I can't help but suspect would be reporting on this out if this was [yet another] credible sexual assault allegation against Trump.
This is the kind of thing that should be investigated, or at the very least talked about. Instead, as of now, it seems to be being brushed under the carpet. I've already seen Biden supporters dismissing this a Russian hoax, even though the accuser is a Democrat, and the accusations are credible. There would need to be an investigation or trial, or something, and Biden shouldn't just be declared certified sexual assaulter without that. But this allegation can't just be dismissed or ignored, that would be shameful.
So what is the evidence in her favour?
by Gormwood » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:29 am
by Hakons » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:30 am
by Galloism » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:32 am
by Galloism » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:33 am
by Thermodolia » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:37 am
Galloism wrote:Hakons wrote:
I don't think he believes the accusation, he's just showing the prevailing liberal standard on rape accusations is increasingly absurd and unworkable.
I neither believe nor disbelieve without something called evidence. You know, that thing investigators collect. Record in a folder. Lawyers present to a jury. That kind of thing?
by Cisairse » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:43 am
Blargoblarg wrote:So from googling "Joe Biden sexual assault" and "Joe Biden Tara Reade" I'm seeing a bunch of sites including Huffington Post, Vox, Newsweek, and Fox News have articles about this accusation. However, nothing on this so far from CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, Washington Post; basically all the major pro-Democratic establishment media companies. Are they actually gonna talk about this or are they gonna continue ignoring it because Biden's the Democratic frontrunner? Multiple progressive media sites have been talking about this for a couple days now, but we're supposed to believe the mainstream media is more trustworthy while they ignore this issue because it might hurt their preferred Democratic candidate. I guarantee that if someone had accused Sanders of sexual assault the mainstream media would be all over it and calling for him to drop out immediately.
by Gormwood » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:45 am
by Hakons » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:45 am
Cisairse wrote:Blargoblarg wrote:So from googling "Joe Biden sexual assault" and "Joe Biden Tara Reade" I'm seeing a bunch of sites including Huffington Post, Vox, Newsweek, and Fox News have articles about this accusation. However, nothing on this so far from CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, Washington Post; basically all the major pro-Democratic establishment media companies. Are they actually gonna talk about this or are they gonna continue ignoring it because Biden's the Democratic frontrunner? Multiple progressive media sites have been talking about this for a couple days now, but we're supposed to believe the mainstream media is more trustworthy while they ignore this issue because it might hurt their preferred Democratic candidate. I guarantee that if someone had accused Sanders of sexual assault the mainstream media would be all over it and calling for him to drop out immediately.
WSJ isn't reporting it either.
It's almost like newspapers of record don't report on uncorroborated allegations and tweets.
by Gormwood » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:46 am
by Galloism » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:47 am
Gormwood wrote:Will not be a shock when the same Republicans who put Christine Blasey Ford through the Spanish Inquisition for daring to try sabotage Kavanaugh's nomination suddenly say we need to take Tara Read at her word and disqualify Biden.
by Hakons » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:48 am
Gormwood wrote:Will not be a shock when the same Republicans who put Christine Blasey Ford through the Spanish Inquisition for daring to try sabotage Kavanaugh's nomination suddenly say we need to take Tara Read at her word and disqualify Biden.
by Gormwood » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:51 am
Galloism wrote:Gormwood wrote:Will not be a shock when the same Republicans who put Christine Blasey Ford through the Spanish Inquisition for daring to try sabotage Kavanaugh's nomination suddenly say we need to take Tara Read at her word and disqualify Biden.
Well, they have some words from Biden to consider -
“For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts, whether or not it’s been made worse or better over time,”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opin ... en-accuser
The question is, should Joe Biden be held to the standards of justice, or to the standards Joe Biden has pushed for?
by Hakons » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:52 am
by Cisairse » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:55 am
by Gormwood » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:58 am
Cisairse wrote:Hakons wrote:
Unless you're a conservative nominated to the Supreme Court, of course.
CBF's claims were the subject of an actual investigation. Print news media reported on the claims that were subject to investigation, which I fully expect them to do if and when Ms. Reade's claims become subject to an investigation.
by Galloism » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:59 am
Gormwood wrote:Galloism wrote:Well, they have some words from Biden to consider -
“For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts, whether or not it’s been made worse or better over time,”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opin ... en-accuser
The question is, should Joe Biden be held to the standards of justice, or to the standards Joe Biden has pushed for?
It's like Bill Clinton. They couldn't get him on corruption so they resort to digging up a woman.
Even if Biden turns out innocent like I presume, the circus around the investigation is all the short-sighted public will focus on and that's what the Trumpublicans are shooting for.
by Cisairse » Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:00 am
Galloism wrote:Gormwood wrote:It's like Bill Clinton. They couldn't get him on corruption so they resort to digging up a woman.
Even if Biden turns out innocent like I presume, the circus around the investigation is all the short-sighted public will focus on and that's what the Trumpublicans are shooting for.
Maybe Biden should have considered that prior to digging his own grave with his own words.
Problem is, Biden is very sexist against men - but think he’ll be the exception that discrimination, and it will never be used against him. Well, politics is a dirty business, so even if what you infer is true - this democratic staffer is now republican controlled - the blanket sexism of believe women and disregard men based on sex is coming home.
It’s actually at this time I would encourage restraint, evidence, and justice - we need it as a society. But Biden didn’t want that.
Except now. For himself.
by Gormwood » Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:01 am
Galloism wrote:Gormwood wrote:It's like Bill Clinton. They couldn't get him on corruption so they resort to digging up a woman.
Even if Biden turns out innocent like I presume, the circus around the investigation is all the short-sighted public will focus on and that's what the Trumpublicans are shooting for.
Maybe Biden should have considered that prior to digging his own grave with his own words.
Problem is, Biden is very sexist against men - but think he’ll be the exception that discrimination, and it will never be used against him. Well, politics is a dirty business, so even if what you infer is true - this democratic staffer is now republican controlled - the blanket sexism of believe women and disregard men based on sex is coming home.
It’s actually at this time I would encourage restraint, evidence, and justice - we need it as a society. But Biden didn’t want that.
Except now. For himself.
by Galloism » Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:07 am
Gormwood wrote:Galloism wrote:Maybe Biden should have considered that prior to digging his own grave with his own words.
Problem is, Biden is very sexist against men - but think he’ll be the exception that discrimination, and it will never be used against him. Well, politics is a dirty business, so even if what you infer is true - this democratic staffer is now republican controlled - the blanket sexism of believe women and disregard men based on sex is coming home.
It’s actually at this time I would encourage restraint, evidence, and justice - we need it as a society. But Biden didn’t want that.
Except now. For himself.
And there's the obligatory MRA tirade against gender treachery.
by Vassenor » Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:21 am
by Galloism » Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:28 am
by Vassenor » Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:29 am
by Galloism » Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:38 am
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