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by Infected Mushroom » Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:39 am
by Albennia » Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:40 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:It would be as exciting as visiting the capital of a real medieval kingdom except in the 21st century.
This is definitely amongst my top 10 must sees.
by Infected Mushroom » Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:43 am
by Kannap » Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:45 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:It would be as exciting as visiting the capital of a real medieval kingdom except in the 21st century.
This is definitely amongst my top 10 must sees.
Luna Amore wrote:Please remember to attend the ritualistic burning of Kannap for heresy
by United Muscovite Nations » Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:58 am
Heloin wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:I believe North Korea is an alternative system (and one of the only remaining holdouts against capitalistic globalism) and I'd definitely want to see how the people live.
I think it’s pretty clear that the propaganda machine that is North Korean tourism was built with people like you in mind.
by United Muscovite Nations » Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:59 am
by United Muscovite Nations » Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:00 am
Dumb Ideologies wrote:You won't see how the people live. You'll see a very choreographed fantasy version prepared by the regime. And all the "dark tourism" money will go directly into the regime's pocket. Ethical? No. But maybe interesting as a study in propaganda.
by Infected Mushroom » Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:01 am
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Dumb Ideologies wrote:You won't see how the people live. You'll see a very choreographed fantasy version prepared by the regime. And all the "dark tourism" money will go directly into the regime's pocket. Ethical? No. But maybe interesting as a study in propaganda.
That's only true for the group tours. On individual tours you get a lot more freedom and are able to meet real people as the minders can more closely supervise you, and the minders are also willing to discuss politics with you.
t. have a friend IRL who went on an individual tour in NoKo.
by United Muscovite Nations » Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:05 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:United Muscovite Nations wrote:That's only true for the group tours. On individual tours you get a lot more freedom and are able to meet real people as the minders can more closely supervise you, and the minders are also willing to discuss politics with you.
t. have a friend IRL who went on an individual tour in NoKo.
Did he have a good time?
I hear they treat tourists quite well
by Infected Mushroom » Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:11 am
United Muscovite Nations wrote:
He did, he said that he and the minders got into a few big arguments about politics though, and that his hotel was really crummy (individual tours stay in a less sheltered hotel than the one group tourists stay in).
by United Muscovite Nations » Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:13 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:United Muscovite Nations wrote:He did, he said that he and the minders got into a few big arguments about politics though, and that his hotel was really crummy (individual tours stay in a less sheltered hotel than the one group tourists stay in).
I see...
Was the food to his liking?
by Northern Davincia » Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:15 am
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by Geneviev » Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:23 am
by Infected Mushroom » Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:38 am
Geneviev wrote:1. I am curious about North Korea and would be interested in seeing what it's really like. However, 2. it is an oppressive regime and I would not like to pay for people being killed if they disagree.
by Geneviev » Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:40 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:Geneviev wrote:1. I am curious about North Korea and would be interested in seeing what it's really like. However, 2. it is an oppressive regime and I would not like to pay for people being killed if they disagree.
so are you saying you would only visit if it's for free? if you didn't have to pay?
by Infected Mushroom » Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:42 am
Tourism in North Korea is tightly controlled by the North Korean government. Only about 4,000 to 6,000 Western tourists visit North Korea each year. All tourism is organized by one of several state-owned tourism bureaus, including Korea International Travel Company (KITC), Korean International Sports Travel Company (KISTC), Korean International Taekwondo Tourism Company (KITTC) and Korean International Youth Travel Company (KIYTC).[1]
by Infected Mushroom » Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:43 am
Northern Davincia wrote:Is it ethical? No. I would like to visit someday regardless, but I have reason to be cautious in the event of arrest.
by Kannap » Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:44 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:Geneviev wrote:If the government doesn't profit, yes. If the tour was organized by a private third party I could consider paying as well.
I see...
It says on wikipedia:Tourism in North Korea is tightly controlled by the North Korean government. Only about 4,000 to 6,000 Western tourists visit North Korea each year. All tourism is organized by one of several state-owned tourism bureaus, including Korea International Travel Company (KITC), Korean International Sports Travel Company (KISTC), Korean International Taekwondo Tourism Company (KITTC) and Korean International Youth Travel Company (KIYTC).[1]
Luna Amore wrote:Please remember to attend the ritualistic burning of Kannap for heresy
by Kannap » Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:45 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:Northern Davincia wrote:Is it ethical? No. I would like to visit someday regardless, but I have reason to be cautious in the event of arrest.
My understanding is that if you obey the laws and show a moderate level of deference, there would be no arrests
this is a state of affairs that is acceptable to me because I respect the law wherever I go
Luna Amore wrote:Please remember to attend the ritualistic burning of Kannap for heresy
by Deacarsia » Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:47 am
by Geneviev » Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:47 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:Geneviev wrote:If the government doesn't profit, yes. If the tour was organized by a private third party I could consider paying as well.
I see...
It says on wikipedia:Tourism in North Korea is tightly controlled by the North Korean government. Only about 4,000 to 6,000 Western tourists visit North Korea each year. All tourism is organized by one of several state-owned tourism bureaus, including Korea International Travel Company (KITC), Korean International Sports Travel Company (KISTC), Korean International Taekwondo Tourism Company (KITTC) and Korean International Youth Travel Company (KIYTC).[1]
by Northern Davincia » Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:49 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:Northern Davincia wrote:Is it ethical? No. I would like to visit someday regardless, but I have reason to be cautious in the event of arrest.
My understanding is that if you obey the laws and show a moderate level of deference, there would be no arrests
this is a state of affairs that is acceptable to me because I respect the law wherever I go
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by Dogmeat » Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:50 am
by United Muscovite Nations » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:59 am
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