Have small towns been vindicated?

[San Lumen]

He wants to uhh... "bleach" Atlanta, if you catch my drift.

Of course not race has nothing to do with being a good person.
There's Islam and Islamic extremists, Christians and Christian Extremists, ETC.
Race and religion have nothing to do with it, it's all in morals and upbringing of people.

And your proposing sealing off the city or evicting them from the state without their consent because you don’t agree with them?

[Kannap]

No breakfast.

Lunch is at 11AM, dinner is at 4PM, second dinner is at 9PM

Would "lunch" not be brunch?

Brunch is 10-10:30, as a gay man I understand that and on the weekends lunch is replaced by brunch. 11AM is the beginning of the lunch rush.

[Hillary Clinton 2016-2024]

In 2016, the rural districts were disproportionately represented. This won Trump the Presidency without a majority of the popular vote.

Yet when people push to change that, people go "but then a few cities decide the fate of the country!" Often omitted is the crucial caveat "that majority of Americans who chose to live in these cities decide it." If you side with "the will of the people," does that not include "the will, of the people, to move out to the cities once they get the chance?"

The first response would be to characterize farmers, and the other professions that provide services to farmers in the same small towns they're in, as Atlas holding the rest of the country on their shoulders. "We give you your food," they say. As if we couldn't just import it from overseas.

I used to dismiss this with the commonality within China of farms within city limits.

And then coronavirus happened.

I can think of at least 3 reasons why farming is done in small towns.

A: Lower property values.

B: Less pollution.

C: Less risk of a disease from an animal rapidly spreading amongst humans. (And it turns out they can spread from wetmarkets anyway.)

But I have one in mind for why it shouldn't:

1. If a majority of people live in cities, isn't it more efficient to transport food to them if it is grown within city limits?

So is A through C a comprehensive list of the reasons why it's done in small towns, or is there more to it than that? And if a carbon tax proportional to the harm done by greenhouse gases were enacted, would this be enough to reverse the profitability of doing farming in small towns? Why or why not?

I get that small towns aren't exclusively about farming... there's also the appeal of doing mining in small towns so that the mining pollutants is dispersed. But some of them; like greenhouse gases; are problematic whether they're dispersed or not, so that's not much of a case in their favour.

So what say you, NSG? Have small towns been vindicated?

No...? I can't even understand your point here. Small towns are bad because america elected a cheeto as president?

[Christian Confederation]

Of course not race has nothing to do with being a good person.
There's Islam and Islamic extremists, Christians and Christian Extremists, ETC.
Race and religion have nothing to do with it, it's all in morals and upbringing of people.

And your proposing sealing off the city or evicting them from the state without their consent because you don’t agree with them?

Of course not there's a US Vs Them mindset on both sides so it's best to divide instead of fight

[San Lumen]

And your proposing sealing off the city or evicting them from the state without their consent because you don’t agree with them?

Of course not there's a US Vs Them mindset on both sides so it's best to divide instead of fight

By doing what exactly?

[Kannap]

Of course not there's a US Vs Them mindset on both sides so it's best to divide instead of fight

By doing what exactly?

I know you're used to asking the same questions over and over and hoping for new answers but he's literally already answered this question.

Wall off the cities but allow them to leave. Them everyone inside can have there Starbucks and safe spaces, and all there other crapp.
Meanwhile the rest of us can have religion and dinners, and the rest of our "Deplorable" Stuff.

[Christian Confederation]

By doing what exactly?

I know you're used to asking the same questions over and over and hoping for new answers but he's literally already answered this question.

Wall off the cities but allow them to leave. Them everyone inside can have there Starbucks and safe spaces, and all there other crapp.
Meanwhile the rest of us can have religion and dinners, and the rest of our "Deplorable" Stuff.

Basically yeah. Decide what land goes to what side than divide.
Kinda like the EU, We keep America United but have 2 parties that control there territory but work together to keep our strength.

There have been many examples of this in alternative history and fiction but in the long run we could get 2 or more nations United in an American Union kind of thing.

[San Lumen]

I know you're used to asking the same questions over and over and hoping for new answers but he's literally already answered this question.

Basically yeah. Decide what land goes to what side than divide.
Kinda like the EU, We keep America United but have 2 parties that control there territory but work together to keep our strength.

There have been many examples of this in alternative history and fiction but in the long run we could get 2 or more nations United in an American Union kind of thing.

I don’t see how what your proposing is practical. Plus you cannot form a state from another without their consent

[Cisairse]

ITT: People who have literally no idea how cities work or what the people who live there are like

[Christian Confederation]

Basically yeah. Decide what land goes to what side than divide.
Kinda like the EU, We keep America United but have 2 parties that control there territory but work together to keep our strength.

There have been many examples of this in alternative history and fiction but in the long run we could get 2 or more nations United in an American Union kind of thing.

I don’t see how what your proposing is practical. Plus you cannot form a state from another without their consent

City government hates non city, County government hates non country the states could come to an agreement.

[San Lumen]

I don’t see how what your proposing is practical. Plus you cannot form a state from another without their consent

City government hates non city, County government hates non country the states could come to an agreement.

That's not true. I have relatives in rural areas and they don't hate the city.

What sort of agreement? You haven't proposed anything that's even remotely practical. Have you ever stepped foot in a city?

[Bromagia]

I don’t see how what your proposing is practical. Plus you cannot form a state from another without their consent

City government hates non city, County government hates non country the states could come to an agreement.

To say that you are generalising here doesn't seem sufficient. It's almost parody.

[Christian Confederation]

City government hates non city, County government hates non country the states could come to an agreement.

That's not true. I have relatives in rural areas and they don't hate the city.

What sort of agreement? You haven't proposed anything that's even remotely practical. Have you ever stepped foot in a city?

Of course i have. Atlanta, Brunswick, Jacksonville Athens, Gatlinburg all but Gatlinburg and Athens sucked.

[San Lumen]

That's not true. I have relatives in rural areas and they don't hate the city.

What sort of agreement? You haven't proposed anything that's even remotely practical. Have you ever stepped foot in a city?

Of course i have. Atlanta, Brunswick, Jacksonville Athens, Gatlinburg all but Gatlinburg and Athens sucked.

What agreement are you talking about?

Just because you didn’t like it doesn’t mean others don’t. You making sweeping generalizations

[Christian Confederation]

Of course i have. Atlanta, Brunswick, Jacksonville Athens, Gatlinburg all but Gatlinburg and Athens sucked.

What agreement are you talking about?

Just because you didn’t like it doesn’t mean others don’t. You making sweeping generalizations

Look cities and the rest of the country are two different words with two very different ways of thinking.

[San Lumen]

What agreement are you talking about?

Just because you didn’t like it doesn’t mean others don’t. You making sweeping generalizations

Look cities and the rest of the country are two different words with two very different ways of thinking.

Your point being? That doesnt mean you forcibly separate them from the rest of the country or give them less representation.

[Christian Confederation]

Look cities and the rest of the country are two different words with two very different ways of thinking.

Your point being? That doesnt mean you forcibly separate them from the rest of the country or give them less representation.

Trying to make popular vote the only vote does exactly that. The Democrats know they control the population centers and can easily over power us "Deplorables"

[-Astoria]

Your point being? That doesnt mean you forcibly separate them from the rest of the country or give them less representation.

Trying to make popular vote the only vote does exactly that. The Democrats know they control the population centers and can easily over power us "Deplorables"

You gotta admit though, popular vote is rather less clunky & arbitrary than the electoral college, mind.

[Cisairse]

Trying to make popular vote the only vote does exactly that. The Democrats know they control the population centers and can easily over power us "Deplorables"

You gotta admit though, popular vote is rather less clunky & arbitrary than the electoral college, mind.

EC makes election night way more fun, though, because you can have fun drinking games like "take a shot every time a state is called."

[San Lumen]

Your point being? That doesnt mean you forcibly separate them from the rest of the country or give them less representation.

Trying to make popular vote the only vote does exactly that. The Democrats know they control the population centers and can easily over power us "Deplorables"

Yeah how awful the person with the most votes wins. Should we chose statewide officials by how many counties they win even if someone else gets more votes?

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

Your point being? That doesnt mean you forcibly separate them from the rest of the country or give them less representation.

Trying to make popular vote the only vote does exactly that. The Democrats know they control the population centers and can easily over power us "Deplorables"

Hillary's "deplorables" comment was specifically in reference to only half of Trump supporters, at most, which is not unreasonable when you consider they had plenty of less-xenophobic, less-science-denialist alternatives to choose from during the Republican Primaries, let alone before it came to choosing him or her.

But that still implies a half that isn't. I guess that's not enough. Give a mouse a cookie and he'll ask for a glass of milk.

[Ors Might]

Your point being? That doesnt mean you forcibly separate them from the rest of the country or give them less representation.

Trying to make popular vote the only vote does exactly that. The Democrats know they control the population centers and can easily over power us "Deplorables"

Tbf, even representative democracy isn’t all that good at providing leaders that truly represent anyone, least of all those that didn’t vote for them.

[Cekoviu]

You gotta admit though, popular vote is rather less clunky & arbitrary than the electoral college, mind.

EC makes election night way more fun, though, because you can have fun drinking games like "take a shot every time a state is called."

Drinking games are dumb, having a dumb game attached to doing so doesn't give you more of an excuse to get shitfaced

[Cisairse]

EC makes election night way more fun, though, because you can have fun drinking games like "take a shot every time a state is called."

Drinking games are dumb, having a dumb game attached to doing so doesn't give you more of an excuse to get shitfaced

2016 demonstrated that you don't need an excuse to get shitfaced if the presidency is on the line.

[Christian Confederation]

Drinking games are dumb, having a dumb game attached to doing so doesn't give you more of an excuse to get shitfaced

2016 demonstrated that you don't need an excuse to get shitfaced if the presidency is on the line.

2016 proved many things especially how divided the country is