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Toshavo III
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Postby Toshavo III » Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:49 am

San Lumen wrote:
Toshavo III wrote:The virus itself isn’t that incredibly lethal, however still 10x worse than the flu. The main problem is if everyone gets it all at once, too many people will end up being hospitalized, which leads to deaths due to hospitals succumbing to an influx of cases.

This virus spreads faster than the flu, it’s very easy to transmit between people. The flu infects about a billion people every year, and kills half a million. Those deaths are mostly immune-compromised, and most have co-morbidities (more than one disease at the same time)

As of right now, this is likely to infect 2 - 3 billion... without any interventions to stop the spread, we are looking at 10s of millions of deaths (2.2 million in the US alone)

Treating this with complanency is the worse thing we can do right now.

I never said to be complacent

I know, but you’re suggesting that perhaps this isn’t all that bad, and things will be reopened in a few weeks. No it won’t. The only reason why China and South Korea (and others) were able to stop or at least slow the spread was because of their draconian measures and economic sacrifice. They prevented millions to die. We are failing at that.
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Postby Morover » Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:49 am

San Lumen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Do you think Broadway would be doing any better if all their audiences, cast, and crew all got sick and loads of them died?

Its not airborne Ebola why do people keep treating like it is?

I also didnt say to reopen tomorrow but on the other hand many of those actors and other workers in theatre have zero income right now.

Hi there! I'm a professional actor (though classify myself more as a teacher, as that is my primary income). I have several old friends who are actually scheduled to be on Broadway currently, but are unable to perform. While I can't speak for those individual performers, I know most of the local professional theatres are taking good care of those who were intended to be on the stage during this season. I myself had a show cancelled (though that was community and I had no income dependent on them).

I think you'll find that most sensible actors are more than happy to stay at home if it means stopping the spread of this disease. Yes, it sucks, but it's what is necessary. If we don't stay in home now, they (as well with millions of others who aren't performers) will be without an income for a much longer time. The remarkable thing about acting is that it's possible to be done from the isolation of your home - a luxury that many can't afford, in America and otherwise.
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Postby Diopolis » Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:53 am

Toshavo III wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I never said to be complacent

I know, but you’re suggesting that perhaps this isn’t all that bad, and things will be reopened in a few weeks. No it won’t. The only reason why China and South Korea (and others) were able to stop or at least slow the spread was because of their draconian measures and economic sacrifice. They prevented millions to die. We are failing at that.

Actually, South Korea and Japan are notable in that they stopped this thing without shutting down their countries.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:58 am

Diopolis wrote:
Toshavo III wrote:I know, but you’re suggesting that perhaps this isn’t all that bad, and things will be reopened in a few weeks. No it won’t. The only reason why China and South Korea (and others) were able to stop or at least slow the spread was because of their draconian measures and economic sacrifice. They prevented millions to die. We are failing at that.

Actually, South Korea and Japan are notable in that they stopped this thing without shutting down their countries.


South Korea gives me hope that we can put an end to this disease. That's and the fact it seems to have a more difficult time spreading in hot environments. Hopefully the first heat wave of the year will do to this thing what that asteroid did to the dinosaurs. The sooner this ends, the better.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:00 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Actually, South Korea and Japan are notable in that they stopped this thing without shutting down their countries.


South Korea gives me hope that we can put an end to this disease. That's and the fact it seems to have a more difficult time spreading in hot environments. Hopefully the first heat wave of the year will do to this thing what that asteroid did to the dinosaurs. The sooner this ends, the better.


You know all those jokes about how Australia is only half a mile from the surface of the sun?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... ocial-life

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Postby Diopolis » Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:01 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Actually, South Korea and Japan are notable in that they stopped this thing without shutting down their countries.


South Korea gives me hope that we can put an end to this disease. That's and the fact it seems to have a more difficult time spreading in hot environments. Hopefully the first heat wave of the year will do to this thing what that asteroid did to the dinosaurs. The sooner this ends, the better.

The first heat wave of the year is beginning where I live.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:02 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
South Korea gives me hope that we can put an end to this disease. That's and the fact it seems to have a more difficult time spreading in hot environments. Hopefully the first heat wave of the year will do to this thing what that asteroid did to the dinosaurs. The sooner this ends, the better.


You know all those jokes about how Australia is only half a mile from the surface of the sun?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... ocial-life


There's about 2000 cases in Australia. That's pretty good when you consider what's happening here and their proximity to China.
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:07 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
South Korea gives me hope that we can put an end to this disease. That's and the fact it seems to have a more difficult time spreading in hot environments. Hopefully the first heat wave of the year will do to this thing what that asteroid did to the dinosaurs. The sooner this ends, the better.


You know all those jokes about how Australia is only half a mile from the surface of the sun?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... ocial-life

The only way we're getting out of this is flattening the curve. We can't rely on heat to do what the government and individuals should. Australia provides me with a foreboding of the future.
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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:09 am

Ifreann wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:


This is a world where we play these kinds of games. It's actually awfully similar to the real world and may even be our future, although I hope it's not.

There are more people like you saying it's not racists and making jokes than there are people saying it's racist. This is just the latest fake outrage.

At least 400 people seem to think its racist
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Postby The Alma Mater » Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:10 am

Genivaria wrote:You fucking idiots.

Florida college students test positive for coronavirus after going on spring break

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronaviru ... 0iu0ez9CpY


Well, THEY will probably be fine.
That they will kill few senior citizens is something they will never comprehend.
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Postby Aclion » Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:10 am

The South Falls wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
You know all those jokes about how Australia is only half a mile from the surface of the sun?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... ocial-life

The only way we're getting out of this is flattening the curve. We can't rely on heat to do what the government and individuals should. Australia provides me with a foreboding of the future.

Awesome. Once it gets hot there will only be 2000 cases!
We're counting on you South Falls!
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Postby The Alma Mater » Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:12 am

And no more Olympics this year either.
2020.. the year people were bored. Yet saved the environment. Or died. Or both.
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:12 am

Aclion wrote:
The South Falls wrote:The only way we're getting out of this is flattening the curve. We can't rely on heat to do what the government and individuals should. Australia provides me with a foreboding of the future.

Awesome. Once it gets hot there will only be 2000 cases!
We're counting on you South Falls!

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We can push down our case numbers if all the patients die of heatstroke!
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Postby The Hindustani State » Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:13 am

We just went into national lockdown today. It is now illegal and fineable to be outside
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:13 am

Aureumterra wrote:
Ifreann wrote:There are more people like you saying it's not racists and making jokes than there are people saying it's racist. This is just the latest fake outrage.

At least 400 people seem to think its racist

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Postby San Lumen » Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:14 am

The Hindustani State wrote:We just went into national lockdown today. It is now illegal and fineable to be outside

What country is that? What if your dog needs to be walked or you have to buy food?
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Postby The Hindustani State » Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:15 am

San Lumen wrote:
The Hindustani State wrote:We just went into national lockdown today. It is now illegal and fineable to be outside

What country is that?

India
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:16 am

The Hindustani State wrote:We just went into national lockdown today. It is now illegal and fineable to be outside

You'll be able to go outside for essentials I'd think.
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:17 am

Coughing up a storm but at least the fever is sort of dissipating. If this gets worse, I'm definitely going to try to go in someplace.

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:24 am

Aureumterra wrote:
Ifreann wrote:There are more people like you saying it's not racists and making jokes than there are people saying it's racist. This is just the latest fake outrage.

At least 400 people seem to think its racist

And if you would shut up about them then none of us would ever hear about them.


San Lumen wrote:
The Hindustani State wrote:We just went into national lockdown today. It is now illegal and fineable to be outside

What country is that? What if your dog needs to be walked or you have to buy food?

Eat your dog.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:26 am

Ifreann wrote:

And if you would shut up about them then none of us would ever hear about them.


San Lumen wrote:What country is that? What if your dog needs to be walked or you have to buy food?

Eat your dog.

If your trying to be funny you failed miserably

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Postby The Hindustani State » Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:28 am

San Lumen wrote:
The Hindustani State wrote:We just went into national lockdown today. It is now illegal and fineable to be outside

What country is that? What if your dog needs to be walked or you have to buy food?

You can go out for essentials, but only in a certain timeframe per neighborhood. They did this so not everyone goes out at the same time
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:29 am

The Hindustani State wrote:
San Lumen wrote:What country is that? What if your dog needs to be walked or you have to buy food?

You can go out for essentials, but only in a certain timeframe per neighborhood. They did this so not everyone goes out at the same time


That's fairly smart, actually. Are these timeframes decided locally/by municipality, I assume?

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Postby Liriena » Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:31 am

Cisairse wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Do you think Broadway would be doing any better if all their audiences, cast, and crew all got sick and loads of them died?


isn't that just Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark?

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Postby Luminesa » Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:32 am

San Lumen wrote:
The Hindustani State wrote:We just went into national lockdown today. It is now illegal and fineable to be outside

What country is that? What if your dog needs to be walked or you have to buy food?

Doggy might have to stay inside. I dunno. Get a cat, cats are good at staying inside.
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