Coronavirus Thread mark II: Official Apocalyptic Edition

[Nakena]

I couldn't even support it during a war honestly, largely because I don't think my country should be involved in wars.

Well if you want to believe in that kind of stupidity, you go right ahead.

He believes in creating a Mad Max tier society. But alas I think his views shouldn be the topic of the thread.

[San Lumen]

All right lets just go ahead and suspend the constitution until there is a vaccine. Lets not hold the November election despite their being no constitutional way to cancel or postpone it.

Well Americans, much like quite a number of Britons, have shown they are incapable of partaking voluntarily - so perhaps, yes?

How about no?

[Greater vakolicci haven]

I couldn't even support it during a war honestly, largely because I don't think my country should be involved in wars.

Well if you want to believe in that kind of stupidity, you go right ahead.

It's not stupid to believe Britain should always do as much as is possible to stay out of war...

[Aureumterra]

So Max Barry authorized the mods to filter out fake news?

Thank god

[The New California Republic]

Getting someone sectioned on mental health grounds to stop a person from murdering any passerby they see because the person imagines voices are telling them to purge the world.

Yeah you are probably against someone being sectioned too.

It's a potential masters dissertation topic of mine, in fact.

It's bad that I can predict what you are going to say just solely by picking the most bullshit option that would result in harm to others. Don't you think that's bad?

[Fartsniffage]

The event will still be called Tokyo 2020 despite taking place in 2021.

Lol. Sheer bloody-mindedness. "It's happening in 2021 but we are going to call it Tokyo 2020. We are. We are. It is Tokyo 2020. Lalala we can't hear you!"

Nah. They're just saving some cash on re-branding literally everything from the medals down to the free condoms in the athlete village.

[LRON]

A balance could have been struck had we not wasted our opportunity. Westerners however are too used to comfort, too soft and with a warped sense of libertas and pietas, mainly by the lack of the latter. So we did nothing. That moment to strike a balance is over, chap. Let me tell you this, as someone with lots of money - the economy will always bounce back. Dead people do not, unless you believe in zombies or something. If scores of people start dying and are being hospitalized and the healthcare system crashes even more severely I can assure you that the economic consequences of that will be far, far more devastating than a lockdown of a month or two. Investors are like zebras, they are easily scared by the slightest movement in the bush let alone if they started being chased by a lion. What you are proposing. Will. Not. Work.

What;'s your solution then? Keep everything closed until there is a vaccine? You;'ll have no economy, unemployment at record highs. almost every business large and small bankrupt and a government default on the debt.

Given that it seems to have an incubation period of at most month, the month long cases being extremes, a month and a bit of a lockdown would see it disappearing as a major threat. After that you focus on isolating healthcare workers and those still sick to prevent a second outbreak. You don't have to lockdown for a year. A month however? Yes you can do that. China did, France is currently doing that, Italy is as well, so is Spain.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

It's a potential masters dissertation topic of mine, in fact.

It's bad that I can predict what you are going to say just solely by picking the most bullshit option that would result in harm to others. Don't you think that's bad?

Generally you can guess that if there's a conflict between civil liberties and anything else, I'm going to come down on the liberty side of the fence.

[The New California Republic]

The event will still be called Tokyo 2020 despite taking place in 2021.

Lol. Sheer bloody-mindedness. "It's happening in 2021 but we are going to call it Tokyo 2020. We are. We are. It is Tokyo 2020. Lalala we can't hear you!"

Nah. They're just saving some cash on re-branding literally everything from the medals down to the free condoms in the athlete village.

A tasteful black marker scribble works wonders.

[San Lumen]

What;'s your solution then? Keep everything closed until there is a vaccine? You;'ll have no economy, unemployment at record highs. almost every business large and small bankrupt and a government default on the debt.

Given that it seems to have an incubation period of at most month, the month long cases being extremes, a month and a bit of a lockdown would see it disappearing as a major threat. After that you focus on isolating healthcare workers and those still sick to prevent a second outbreak. You don't have to lockdown for a year. A month however? Yes you can do that. China did, France is currently doing that, Italy is as well, so is Spain.

Some have said you might need to do it longer and suggested we might have to do on an off lockdowns

[The New California Republic]

It's bad that I can predict what you are going to say just solely by picking the most bullshit option that would result in harm to others. Don't you think that's bad?

Generally you can guess that if there's a conflict between civil liberties and anything else, I'm going to come down on the liberty side of the fence.

That's not what is happening though, I just told you what happened.

[Nakena]

It's a potential masters dissertation topic of mine, in fact.

It's bad that I can predict what you are going to say just solely by picking the most bullshit option that would result in harm to others. Don't you think that's bad?

Quite ironic that a number of his suggestions to ignore medical advice are no longer allowed after Big Max announcement tonight.

[Ifreann]

Sometimes you have to go further for the betterment of the people. After all, your Abraham Lincoln quite famously suspended habeas corpus for the course of the American Civil War. That didn't turn your country into a permanent police state, with the American Stasi looming over you all.

All right lets just go ahead and suspend the constitution until there is a vaccine. Lets not hold the November election despite their being no constitutional way to cancel or postpone it.

You're talking about Trump illegally forcing state governments and private organisations to open their doors and suspend locksdowns during a pandemic, it's a bit rich to complain about the constitution being ignored.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

So Max Barry authorized the mods to filter out fake news?

Thank god

I don't think its going to just be the "fake news" you don't like.

[San Lumen]

All right lets just go ahead and suspend the constitution until there is a vaccine. Lets not hold the November election despite their being no constitutional way to cancel or postpone it.

You're talking about Trump illegally forcing state governments and private organisations to open their doors and suspend locksdowns during a pandemic, it's a bit rich to complain about the constitution being ignored.

I never said he should do that. I merely saying I wouldn't put it past him to try.

[The New California Republic]

It's bad that I can predict what you are going to say just solely by picking the most bullshit option that would result in harm to others. Don't you think that's bad?

Quite ironic that a number of his suggestions to ignore medical advice are no longer allowed after Big Max announcement tonight.

Indeed, of which GVH is no doubt aware.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

It's bad that I can predict what you are going to say just solely by picking the most bullshit option that would result in harm to others. Don't you think that's bad?

Quite ironic that a number of his suggestions to ignore medical advice are no longer allowed after Big Max announcement tonight.

If you have access to the amount of journals that I do, you can find medical advice saying every possible thing under the sun. I'm not sure how the mods are going to work out what's right and what's wrong.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

withholding funds and other aid.


No it shouldnt be. If people want to be morons that's their choice unless you want a police state

Sometimes you have to go further for the betterment of the people. After all, your Abraham Lincoln quite famously suspended habeas corpus for the course of the American Civil War. That didn't turn your country into a permanent police state, with the American Stasi looming over you all.

If I recall correctly, some elements of what Lincoln did were declared unconstitutional by the courts.

[LRON]

Given that it seems to have an incubation period of at most month, the month long cases being extremes, a month and a bit of a lockdown would see it disappearing as a major threat. After that you focus on isolating healthcare workers and those still sick to prevent a second outbreak. You don't have to lockdown for a year. A month however? Yes you can do that. China did, France is currently doing that, Italy is as well, so is Spain.

Some have said you might need to do it longer and suggested we might have to do on an off lockdowns

We do it for a month and a bit, two perhaps if necessary and see where that takes us. Given that the Chinese are slowly able to start opening up again after a similar length of time is promising. There is no such thing as fully protecting the economy in events like this. There are acts of nature that will just shock the economy, but the economy will always rise again. Even if there was a depression, it would not be permanent let alone if it was just a recession.

[The New California Republic]

Quite ironic that a number of his suggestions to ignore medical advice are no longer allowed after Big Max announcement tonight.

If you have access to the amount of journals that I do, you can find medical advice saying every possible thing under the sun. I'm not sure how the mods are going to work out what's right and what's wrong.

You haven't used them up to now, and using them at this point solely to skirt the fringes of the rule would just be incredibly silly.

And I doubt most of your posts on the subject, which consists of complaining about the inconvenience, would be backed up by medical journals.

[San Lumen]

Some have said you might need to do it longer and suggested we might have to do on an off lockdowns

We do it for a month and a bit, two perhaps if necessary and see where that takes us. Given that the Chinese are slowly able to start opening up again after a similar length of time is promising. There is no such thing as fully protecting the economy in events like this. There are acts of nature that will just shock the economy, but the economy will always rise again. Even if there was a depression, it would not be permanent let alone if it was just a recession.

it took 25 years to recover fully from the crash of 1929.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

If you have access to the amount of journals that I do, you can find medical advice saying every possible thing under the sun. I'm not sure how the mods are going to work out what's right and what's wrong.

You haven't used them up to now, and using them at this point solely to skirt the fringes of the rule would just be incredibly silly.

And I doubt most of your posts on the subject, which consists of complaining about the inconvenience, would be backed up by medical journals.

Disagreeing with measures that have been taken is not encouraging people to ignore medical advice.

[Northern Davincia]

Sometimes you have to go further for the betterment of the people. After all, your Abraham Lincoln quite famously suspended habeas corpus for the course of the American Civil War. That didn't turn your country into a permanent police state, with the American Stasi looming over you all.

If I recall correctly, some elements of what Lincoln did were declared unconstitutional by the courts.

Except that habeas corpus can be suspended in periods of rebellion.

[San Lumen]

If I recall correctly, some elements of what Lincoln did were declared unconstitutional by the courts.

Except that habeas corpus can be suspended in periods of rebellion.

And we are not in a state of rebellion

[Nakena]

Quite ironic that a number of his suggestions to ignore medical advice are no longer allowed after Big Max announcement tonight.

If you have access to the amount of journals that I do, you can find medical advice saying every possible thing under the sun. I'm not sure how the mods are going to work out what's right and what's wrong.

mfw