Coronavirus Thread mark II: Official Apocalyptic Edition

[Valrifell]

A dangerous and bad decision.

Nevertheless, several governors have already gone beyond what the administration prescribed. I doubt Cuomo is going to loosten up restrictoons, for instance. Could it already be beyond Donald's control?

Who knows, but given his approval rating is rising; disapproval decreasing, he sees an opportunity, and a gamble, to increase his chances winning come November though it is a gamble: if he loosens up restrictions and more people get sick, it could backfire on him. But nonetheless, he's riding a high wave right now.

The problem being, of course, that every infectious disease expert on the planet agree that without restrictions in place it'll get much worse, particularly in a country like the US where cases are still rising fucking exponentially.

This goddamn numbskull is gonna have folk dying in the streets.

[The New California Republic]

Trump to reopen Economy.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/24/politics ... index.html

Containment is being abandoned.

Trump is actually going to kill people with this decision.

[Rojava Free State]

A dangerous and bad decision.

Nevertheless, several governors have already gone beyond what the administration prescribed. I doubt Cuomo is going to loosten up restrictoons, for instance. Could it already be beyond Donald's control?

Who knows, but given his approval rating is rising; disapproval decreasing, he sees an opportunity, and a gamble, to increase his chances winning come November though it is a gamble: if he loosens up restrictions and more people get sick, it could backfire on him. But nonetheless, he's riding a high wave right now.

How is his approval rating rising? I can see why people would like the response of people like Fauci to this crisis but Trump has continually dropped the ball on this, and if he "reopens the ecomomy" too soon, he will single handedly kill millions of Americans not out of spite, but because he's a dumbass who is more worried about how the economy (his crown achievement) will look around election time than he is about the safety and security of our people.

This virus struck at one of the worst times it could have in America. I hope the state reopens in a couple weeks but jeez not like tomorrow.

[Moscareinas]

A dangerous and bad decision.

Nevertheless, several governors have already gone beyond what the administration prescribed. I doubt Cuomo is going to loosten up restrictoons, for instance. Could it already be beyond Donald's control?

Who knows, but given his approval rating is rising; disapproval decreasing, he sees an opportunity, and a gamble, to increase his chances winning come November though it is a gamble: if he loosens up restrictions and more people get sick, it could backfire on him. But nonetheless, he's riding a high wave right now.

People who support him can shrug it off so long as the death toll doesn't reach flu levels. This cannot backfire on him till it's way too late.

[Pilipinas and Malaya]

COVID-19 Live Numbers as of 4:26 PM HKST, March 24, 2020

Confirmed per Country/Region

81,553 China
63,927 Italy
46,450 US
35,136 Spain
29,056 Germany
23,049 Iran
20,128 France
9,037 Korea, South
8,795 Switzerland
6,726 United Kingdom
4,767 Netherlands
4,477 Austria
3,743 Belgium
2,625 Norway
2,088 Canada
2,060 Portugal
2,059 Sweden
2,044 Australia
1,924 Brazil
1,582 Denmark
1,529 Turkey
1,518 Malaysia
1,442 Israel
1,236 Czechia
1,140 Japan
1,125 Ireland
981 Ecuador
892 Pakistan
875 Luxembourg
827 Thailand
749 Poland
746 Chile
712 Cruise Ship
700 Finland
695 Greece
588 Iceland
579 Indonesia
576 Romania
562 Saudi Arabia
511 India
509 Singapore
501 Philippines
501 Qatar
442 Slovenia
438 Russia
402 South Africa
395 Peru
377 Bahrain
367 Mexico
366 Egypt
352 Estonia
345 Panama
315 Croatia
306 Colombia
301 Argentina
267 Lebanon
266 Iraq
249 Serbia
245 Dominican Republic
235 Armenia
230 Algeria
202 Bulgaria
198 United Arab Emirates
195 Taiwan*
189 Kuwait
187 Hungary
187 San Marino
186 Slovakia
180 Latvia
179 Lithuania
162 Uruguay
158 Costa Rica
155 New Zealand
143 Morocco
137 Bosnia and Herzegovina
136 North Macedonia
133 Andorra
127 Jordan
123 Vietnam
116 Cyprus
109 Moldova
107 Malta
104 Albania
99 Burkina Faso
97 Sri Lanka
91 Brunei
89 Tunisia
87 Cambodia
84 Oman
84 Venezuela
81 Belarus
79 Senegal
73 Ukraine
72 Azerbaijan
68 Kazakhstan
66 Georgia
56 Cameroon
52 Trinidad and Tobago
51 Liechtenstein
49 Uzbekistan
42 Afghanistan
42 Kyrgyzstan
40 Cuba
40 Nigeria
36 Congo (Kinshasa)
36 Mauritius
36 Rwanda
33 Bangladesh
30 Honduras
28 Bolivia
27 Ghana
27 Montenegro
27 Paraguay
25 Cote d'Ivoire
23 Monaco
20 Guatemala
20 Guyana
19 Jamaica
18 Togo
17 Barbados
17 Madagascar
16 Kenya
13 Maldives
12 Tanzania
11 Ethiopia
10 Mongolia
9 Equatorial Guinea
9 Uganda
7 Seychelles
6 Benin
6 Gabon
6 Haiti
6 Suriname
5 El Salvador
4 Bahamas
4 Congo (Brazzaville)
4 Eswatini
4 Fiji
4 Guinea
4 Namibia
3 Angola
3 Antigua and Barbuda
3 Cabo Verde
3 Central African Republic
3 Djibouti
3 Liberia
3 Niger
3 Saint Lucia
3 Zambia
3 Zimbabwe
2 Bhutan
2 Chad
2 Dominica
2 Gambia
2 Mauritania
2 Nepal
2 Nicaragua
2 Sudan
1 Belize
1 Eritrea
1 Grenada
1 Holy See
1 Mozambique
1 Papua New Guinea
1 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
1 Somalia
1 Syria
1 Timor-Leste

[Agarntrop]

Olympics just got postponed to 2021.

[Samudera Darussalam]

Who knows, but given his approval rating is rising; disapproval decreasing, he sees an opportunity, and a gamble, to increase his chances winning come November though it is a gamble: if he loosens up restrictions and more people get sick, it could backfire on him. But nonetheless, he's riding a high wave right now.

People who support him can shrug it off so long as the death toll doesn't reach flu levels. This cannot backfire on him till it's way too late.

An old argument, really. "This is not as bad as flu". Heh. They are lucky to live in a country with a relatively decent and advanced health care.

[Valrifell]

Who knows, but given his approval rating is rising; disapproval decreasing, he sees an opportunity, and a gamble, to increase his chances winning come November though it is a gamble: if he loosens up restrictions and more people get sick, it could backfire on him. But nonetheless, he's riding a high wave right now.

People who support him can shrug it off so long as the death toll doesn't reach flu levels. This cannot backfire on him till it's way too late.

Evidently they'll support him right up until they're on ventilation.

[Valrifell]

People who support him can shrug it off so long as the death toll doesn't reach flu levels. This cannot backfire on him till it's way too late.

An old argument, really. "This is not as bad as flu". Heh. They are lucky to live in a country with a relatively decent and advanced health care.

Until the healthcare system gets overwhelmed by thousands of new cases

[Nakena]

Who knows, but given his approval rating is rising; disapproval decreasing, he sees an opportunity, and a gamble, to increase his chances winning come November though it is a gamble: if he loosens up restrictions and more people get sick, it could backfire on him. But nonetheless, he's riding a high wave right now.

People who support him can shrug it off so long as the death toll doesn't reach flu levels. This cannot backfire on him till it's way too late.

Once cases go up again (which they will regardless) he's gonna flip-flop again on it. It's basically depending whatever media (or foxnews) is pushing the most atm.

[Dylar]

Okay so the state of Indiana just issued a "Stay-At-Home" Order that will take effect on Wednesday the 25th, and last til April 7th at the earliest. Not exactly a complete shut down since essential services will still be open, but close enough.

Et tu Dylar?

Well word on the street is that my job is considered an essential service. And we're a factory that builds brass valves. I mean they do go in hospitals but I'm pretty sure that the valves get put in during construction.

[Zurkerx]

Who knows, but given his approval rating is rising; disapproval decreasing, he sees an opportunity, and a gamble, to increase his chances winning come November though it is a gamble: if he loosens up restrictions and more people get sick, it could backfire on him. But nonetheless, he's riding a high wave right now.

The problem being, of course, that every infectious disease expert on the planet agree that without restrictions in place it'll get much worse, particularly in a country like the US where cases are still rising fucking exponentially.

This goddamn numbskull is gonna have folk dying in the streets.

That would be the contributing factor of the anti-intellectual wave the US is riding right now: the institutions that would otherwise be respected, are viewed with distrust or at least, suspicious. I don't blame people for wanting to get out given they can't sit still, but they are risking their lives nonetheless. If that attitude doesn't change, some people are going to learn the hard way unfortunately.

[Moscareinas]

A bit behind; the Philippines now has 552 people confirmed to be infected with this virus.

More and more of our doctors and nurses are forced to quarantine themselves or are themselves infected or dead, through no fault of their own. Marikina City has taken the trouble to procure for itself and for the benefit of the immediate vicinity a testing facility, but it's not yet approved by the Department of Health and so is not yet operational, despite the shortage of testing kits. Dear God, why this dilly-dallying?

[Moscareinas]

The problem being, of course, that every infectious disease expert on the planet agree that without restrictions in place it'll get much worse, particularly in a country like the US where cases are still rising fucking exponentially.

This goddamn numbskull is gonna have folk dying in the streets.

That would be the contributing factor of the anti-intellectual wave the US is riding right now: the institutions that would otherwise be respected, are viewed with distrust or at least, suspicious. I don't blame people for wanting to get out given they can't sit still, but they are risking their lives nonetheless. If that attitude doesn't change, some people are going to learn the hard way unfortunately.

And some are going to learn alongside them, despite taking every precaution, because fuck the greater good, we want money!

[Ghost Land]

The order coming out of Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers yesterday was referred to as "Safer At Home": all non-essential businesses are closed, and people are urged to stay inside as much as possible. The earlier law passed last week prohibiting social gatherings of 10 or more people still stands, though there is no rule against going for a walk with one or two family members or friends (which is still beneficial for all of us, as cabin fever can too be a real thing, especially for natural extraverts such as myself). This seriously sucks, but at the same time it's less severe than the new rule introduced in Germany prohibiting social gatherings of more than two people (meaning a family of three could not go places together unless they took separate vehicles and made sure not to interact with each other).

Let's just hope my friends actually PICK UP the phone when I call them.

[Valrifell]

The problem being, of course, that every infectious disease expert on the planet agree that without restrictions in place it'll get much worse, particularly in a country like the US where cases are still rising fucking exponentially.

This goddamn numbskull is gonna have folk dying in the streets.

That would be the contributing factor of the anti-intellectual wave the US is riding right now: the institutions that would otherwise be respected, are viewed with distrust or at least, suspicious. I don't blame people for wanting to get out given they can't sit still, but they are risking their lives nonetheless. If that attitude doesn't change, some people are going to learn the hard way unfortunately.

But, we must note, that as infection rates soar with the highest offices pushing for folks to leave home, people will be calling out of work regardless. Imho, the economy is already in recession, there's no saving it. Just mitigating fallout, but there are better ways to do that without putting lives at risk.

Except now the economy sucks and people are dying because the president told them it was fine.

[Nakena]

That would be the contributing factor of the anti-intellectual wave the US is riding right now: the institutions that would otherwise be respected, are viewed with distrust or at least, suspicious. I don't blame people for wanting to get out given they can't sit still, but they are risking their lives nonetheless. If that attitude doesn't change, some people are going to learn the hard way unfortunately.

And some are going to learn alongside them, despite taking every precaution, because fuck the greater good, we want money!

In the end they will get neither. This we need to reopen to save the economy meme is another delusional wishful thinking. Created out of the helplessness the thought is there that it could return things magically to the previosu stage.

[Moscareinas]

An old argument, really. "This is not as bad as flu". Heh. They are lucky to live in a country with a relatively decent and advanced health care.

Until the healthcare system gets overwhelmed by thousands of new cases

Which is why the Trumpster newsphere exists -- deny reality, or at least make it extremely contestable, so that Trumpster agenda are unhindered.

[Rojava Free State]

A bit behind; the Philippines now has 552 people confirmed to be infected with this virus.

More and more of our doctors and nurses are forced to quarantine themselves or are themselves infected or dead, through no fault of their own. Marikina City has taken the trouble to procure for itself and for the benefit of the immediate vicinity a testing facility, but it's not yet approved by the Department of Health and so is not yet operational, despite the shortage of testing kits. Dear God, why this dilly-dallying?

552 confirmed cases? You're lucky, that's next to nothing in a country of 100 million people. In the US we have like 46,000 confirmed cases and over 500 dead so far.

[Rojava Free State]

People who support him can shrug it off so long as the death toll doesn't reach flu levels. This cannot backfire on him till it's way too late.

An old argument, really. "This is not as bad as flu". Heh. They are lucky to live in a country with a relatively decent and advanced health care.

Relatively decent healthcare for the wealthy. If you're poor, not so much.

[Moscareinas]

A bit behind; the Philippines now has 552 people confirmed to be infected with this virus.

More and more of our doctors and nurses are forced to quarantine themselves or are themselves infected or dead, through no fault of their own. Marikina City has taken the trouble to procure for itself and for the benefit of the immediate vicinity a testing facility, but it's not yet approved by the Department of Health and so is not yet operational, despite the shortage of testing kits. Dear God, why this dilly-dallying?

552 confirmed cases? You're lucky, that's next to nothing in a country of 100 million people. In the US we have like 46,000 confirmed cases and over 500 dead so far.

I know, but that's also a drop in the bucket compared to the total population of your ironically United States.

[Valrifell]

I have re-examined my initial panic and have concluded that Trump lacks the power to force governors to lift their stay-at-home orders; he most likely can not single-handedly re-open the economy and most (not all) governors are gonna fight him on this.

It does make him look rather foolish, considering only a week ago we was all "we will fight this virus like the war" and now he's peddling some bullshit about car accidents. I don't ave much faith but the whiplash with regards to his views on the subject should cause people to approve of him less.

You know, should.

[Nakena]

I have re-examined my initial panic and have concluded that Trump lacks the power to force governors to lift their stay-at-home orders; he most likely can not single-handedly re-open the economy and most (not all) governors are gonna fight him on this.

It does make him look rather foolish, considering only a week ago we was all "we will fight this virus like the war" and now he's peddling some bullshit about car accidents. I don't ave much faith but the whiplash with regards to his views on the subject should cause people to approve of him less.

You know, should.

Trump has no coherent strategy on this and DC appears to be falling apart over the matter.

[Diopolis]

I have re-examined my initial panic and have concluded that Trump lacks the power to force governors to lift their stay-at-home orders; he most likely can not single-handedly re-open the economy and most (not all) governors are gonna fight him on this.

It does make him look rather foolish, considering only a week ago we was all "we will fight this virus like the war" and now he's peddling some bullshit about car accidents. I don't ave much faith but the whiplash with regards to his views on the subject should cause people to approve of him less.

You know, should.

Trump may be threatening to force governors to reopen if Dems don't stop trying to poison pill coronavirus stimulus packages. He may be hoping that warmer weather will prevent the spread. He may be full of shit.

[Ethel mermania]

I have re-examined my initial panic and have concluded that Trump lacks the power to force governors to lift their stay-at-home orders; he most likely can not single-handedly re-open the economy and most (not all) governors are gonna fight him on this.

It does make him look rather foolish, considering only a week ago we was all "we will fight this virus like the war" and now he's peddling some bullshit about car accidents. I don't ave much faith but the whiplash with regards to his views on the subject should cause people to approve of him less.

You know, should.

There are things he can do, particularly at the borders and what not, but the rest of it, you are right, he cant order the theatres and companies open. Those are private and local.

It is sort of ironic the only thing trump can do is open the borders.