Coronavirus Thread mark II: Official Apocalyptic Edition

[Rojava Free State]

Shooting or capital punishment for breaking lockdowns is a bit much. I understand fines and even a spell in jail if they don’t comply but killing them? Yeah, overreaction.

Remember how Mitt Romney's line was "I like firing people?" Well Rodrigo Dutuerte's catchphrase is "I like firing at people."

[Ifreann]

Capital punishment is wrong under all circumstances

So empty virtue-signaling means more to you than deciding to protect the lives of those more worthy to live. Gotcha.

There is no such thing as worthiness to live.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Nah, this is just standard LUNA.

Do you remember the Virginia Gun Control thread like a month or two ago?

Only thing I remember from that thread was Lumen's absurd insistence that the police are an impenetrable wall that cannot be circumvented.

This could easily be interpreted as bait, you know.

Indeed. It also doesn’t mean people have to take it.

The mods don't seem to care about that part as much.

[Agarntrop]

Shooting or capital punishment for breaking lockdowns is a bit much. I understand fines and even a spell in jail if they don’t comply but killing them? Yeah, overreaction.

We could beat them with sticks or force them to do push-ups in front of the police (as has been happening in India) as collecting fines and putting people in jail is very hard to do with social distancing messures and all

[Cisairse]

Shooting or capital punishment for breaking lockdowns is a bit much. I understand fines and even a spell in jail if they don’t comply but killing them? Yeah, overreaction.

Welcome to NSG, where NS Issues are considered to be guiding lights of policy ideas.

[Agarntrop]

Shooting or capital punishment for breaking lockdowns is a bit much. I understand fines and even a spell in jail if they don’t comply but killing them? Yeah, overreaction.

Remember how Mitt Romney's line was "I like firing people?" Well Rodrigo Dutuerte's catchphrase is "I like firing at people."

XD I am adding that to my quote list

[Greater Miami Shores]

My favorite number one (Republican) cousin, who lives in Broward County Florida, told me, a super market store near his house is rationing sales of bottle water cases to one per person. The store is letting in 10 persons at a time. Their are shortages of water bottles and toilet paper in many stores. In Cuba their are shortages of food, water bottles, soap, detergent, toothpaste, medicines and toilet paper. Long lines that last hours and when your turn comes up, they might have run out of the one or two products they are selling at the store. I remember standing in long lines a day before certain stores opened and family members taking my place. The Practice of letting in a few persons at a time, is an old Cuban Communist Socialist Practice before and during the virus. Cubans have been living like this for over 60 years under the eternal revolution, all triumphs of the revolution. Americans are learning how it is to live in Cuba and Venezuela.

Cuban Americans and Cubans all over the world send their families in Cuba family remittances and care packages, of food, medicines and goods, including toilet paper. They bought and pay the recharges of the cell phones Cubans in Cuba are now allowed to own, they pay for their internet connections.

By Fabiola Santiago: March 27, 2020 06:00 AM, Updated March 27, 2020 06:45 AM

On a recent group chat, one of my teacher daughters working remotely in North Florida texts: “This makes me so sad. I talked to a parent today who said she spent the morning running around town looking for meat and toilet paper.”

All I can think to answer is one thing, and it comes from the heart.

Americans, in the midst of food and supply shortages and limitations on personal freedoms, are getting a taste of what it’s like in Cuba and Venezuela — without coronavirus.

Ever heard of surviving on only food bought with a ration book? Or standing in an hours-long line, and when your turn comes up, the bodega has run out of what you came for?

It’s an everyday reality for the Cuban people, (For over 60 years of the triumphs of the revolution) who after a short period of bounty and hope during President Barack Obama’s opening to some trade and relations, were forced to return to sanctions, a tightening of the U.S. embargo, shortages, repression, and economic mismanagement from their new Communist leadership.

( This Part above is Faviola Santiago's spin, trying to be fair, balanced and leftist, she is Cuban, she knows better than that)

It’s the same story in Nicolás Maduro’s socialist Venezuela, a country with the largest proven oil reserves in the world where children literally are dying of malnutrition, as The New York Times reported long before the coronavirus struck, and in the middle of the pandemic, the U.S. Department of Justice indicted Maduro.

He and other top officials are charged with turning Venezuela into a narco-state by collaborating with a leftist Colombian guerrilla group that exported cocaine to the United States.

Now, desperate people in Caracas’ poorest barrios, wearing towels as masks, defy quarantine in search of what isn’t running through their old pipes and they can’t live without: water.
“How can I wash my hands if there isn’t water?” asks a man on an EFE news agency video of people congregating to fill plastic jugs.

“I left behind a very sad Cuba,” a Cuban woman who arrived recently in Miami with a tourist visa told me. She fled Cuba’s delayed reaction to the coronavirus threat and the outrageous courting of foreign tourists in Europe when everyone else was closing borders to limit transmission.

Subsidized eggs and frozen chickens may help to explain why President Nicolás Maduro stayed in power. New York Times correspondents followed his supporters as they enticed undernourished citizens to vote for Mr. Maduro in exchange for food. By New York Times

“I left behind a very sad Cuba,” a Cuban woman who arrived recently in Miami with a tourist visa told me. She fled Cuba’s delayed reaction to the coronavirus threat and the outrageous courting of foreign tourists in Europe when everyone else was closing borders to limit transmission.

“Everything is adrift, people lack information,” the woman said. “The food lines are unbelievable. Whatever is happening here is a huge improvement to being there.”

But, for Cuban Americans, what’s happening in the United States rings of a familiar story.

Food-shortage PTSD

Before the novel coronavirus sent us all in a frenzy to pack our refrigerators and pantries, I already suffered from an only-in-Miami form of PTSD, the growing up in Cuba kind.

It was bad enough that Democratic candidate Bernie Sanders’ persistent praise of Fidel Castro and Communist Cuba’s education system threw me back to my police state childhood anxieties. Now here we are, in the good old USA, in the middle of food and supply shortages.

Wha-a-a-t, no malanga at my Cubanized Winn-Dixie?

The pollo is all gone at Publix!

The bountiful, international hot food and salad bar at Whole Foods is empty!

No fresh milk, no eggs — and my mind throws me back into my father’s car on a forbidden trip to the countryside to bring back to the city food supplies in post-U.S. embargo, ration card-only 1960s Cuba.

On the way back, green-fatigued milicianos intercept us. My mother starts to tuck meat and vegetables under her clothes, looking as if she were pregnant, as my father says to stay calm and gets out of the car. I don’t know what he did but the grown-up me suspects he bribed them.

They walk around the car in a pretend search and wave us through the checkpoint.

The shortages were epic before we left Cuba for the United States in 1969. You were only allowed to buy, for example, one quarter of a loaf of bread per person. They only got worse.

Imagine what it was like for the people who stayed behind and lived through Cuba’s “special period” in the early 1990s after the island lost Soviet subsidies. They had to make patties out of orange rinds and kids drank sugared water for breakfast. I remember my mother sending my cousin vitamin C tablets to treat scurvy, an end of the 18th century disease.

Is it any wonder that an exodus to South Florida of people in homemade rafts and boats followed extreme hunger in 1994?

Or why, decades later, we’re now suffering in the age of coronavirus a sort of Cuban-American, Venezuelan-American collective PTSD over shortages and shutdowns?

Our homeland experiences perhaps also explain why people in Miami-Dade are hoarders, whether it’s when a hurricane looms in the Caribbean, or now, when we are preparing for a pandemic apocalypse that will keep us homebound who knows for how long.

Toilet paper and meat
Take heart, Americans.
Cubans routinely have no toilet paper.
They use the official state newspaper Granma.

Meat is considered a delicacy, too expensive when available to people whose average salary is $44 a month.

Coronavirus is teaching us humility.
This can happen in what we like to boast is the greatest nation on Earth.

Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/ ... rylink=cpy

Posted by Me GMS:
According to my sources based on Cuba's Ministry of Public Health:
The total number of infected has risen to 288, 3,343 patients are hospitalized, 1,602 are suspected of being infected, and 266 are confirmed positive.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Shooting or capital punishment for breaking lockdowns is a bit much. I understand fines and even a spell in jail if they don’t comply but killing them? Yeah, overreaction.

Remember how Mitt Romney's line was "I like firing people?" Well Rodrigo Dutuerte's catchphrase is "I like firing at people."

It’s Duterte... But I’m referring to it been done over here. Breaking lockdowns and curfews aren’t offenses worthy of the death penalty. Actually, nothing is. It’s not a deterrent. But that’s not the topic of this thread. It’s simply some people overreacting.

[Salandriagado]

This is simply untrue.

Since scarves, bandanas, pieces of cloth and sleeves are not designed nor made to filter out viral particulates they won’t help much there, if at all, most I can see them doing is help keeping spit from getting everywhere when someone’s sneezes or coughs.

That's a pretty fucking massive benefit you just named there.

[Salandriagado]

No, those are both lies.

Just because it doesn’t suit your narrative doesn’t mean it isn’t true

No, the fact that your claims do not match reality is what makes them untrue.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Shooting or capital punishment for breaking lockdowns is a bit much. I understand fines and even a spell in jail if they don’t comply but killing them? Yeah, overreaction.

We could beat them with sticks or force them to do push-ups in front of the police (as has been happening in India) as collecting fines and putting people in jail is very hard to do with social distancing messures and all

The way I see it, CoVID19 will equalize those who do break the rules. We’re not being asked to stay home as joke, after all.

[The Black Forrest]

Do you remember the Virginia Gun Control thread like a month or two ago?

Only thing I remember from that thread was Lumen's absurd insistence that the police are an impenetrable wall that cannot be circumvented.

Indeed. It also doesn’t mean people have to take it.

The mods don't seem to care about that part as much.

True. I do suspect they wish people would ignore such comments.

[Agarntrop]

Remember how Mitt Romney's line was "I like firing people?" Well Rodrigo Dutuerte's catchphrase is "I like firing at people."

It’s Duterte... But I’m referring to it been done over here. Breaking lockdowns and curfews aren’t offenses worthy of the death penalty. Actually, nothing is. It’s not a deterrent. But that’s not the topic of this thread. It’s simply some people overreacting.

I personally believe it should be dealt with as a criminal matter rather than an infraction, though.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Shooting or capital punishment for breaking lockdowns is a bit much. I understand fines and even a spell in jail if they don’t comply but killing them? Yeah, overreaction.

Welcome to NSG, where NS Issues are considered to be guiding lights of policy ideas.

Now why wasn’t that the banner displayed when I joined in ‘08, damn it?! It would’ve saved me a lot. >:]

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

It’s Duterte... But I’m referring to it been done over here. Breaking lockdowns and curfews aren’t offenses worthy of the death penalty. Actually, nothing is. It’s not a deterrent. But that’s not the topic of this thread. It’s simply some people overreacting.

I personally believe it should be dealt with as a criminal matter rather than an infraction, though.

Send them to volunteer at hospitals then...

[Ifreann]

Since scarves, bandanas, pieces of cloth and sleeves are not designed nor made to filter out viral particulates they won’t help much there, if at all, most I can see them doing is help keeping spit from getting everywhere when someone’s sneezes or coughs.

That's a pretty fucking massive benefit you just named there.

Anecdotally, I've noticed that people are getting more lax about coughing etiquette since it stopped being something they were getting told about constantly. I'm seeing more people coughing into their hands, or not covering their mouths at all, than two weeks ago.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Remember how Mitt Romney's line was "I like firing people?" Well Rodrigo Dutuerte's catchphrase is "I like firing at people."

It’s Duterte... But I’m referring to it been done over here. Breaking lockdowns and curfews aren’t offenses worthy of the death penalty. Actually, nothing is. It’s not a deterrent. But that’s not the topic of this thread. It’s simply some people overreacting.

It's called capital punishment and not capital deterrent for a reason.

[Greed and Death]

I personally believe it should be dealt with as a criminal matter rather than an infraction, though.

Send them to volunteer at hospitals then...

No they would likely infect a medical professional.

Making them dig graves for the victims however may be a safe illuminating experience.

[San Lumen]

That's a pretty fucking massive benefit you just named there.

Anecdotally, I've noticed that people are getting more lax about coughing etiquette since it stopped being something they were getting told about constantly. I'm seeing more people coughing into their hands, or not covering their mouths at all, than two weeks ago.

Why can't we all just practice good hygiene and invest more in healthcare? Wouldnt none of this be needed? I've read we might have no mass gatherings or events for at least two years if not longer and it might be many months before any stores or restaurants can reopen

[Agarntrop]

I personally believe it should be dealt with as a criminal matter rather than an infraction, though.

Send them to volunteer at hospitals then...

Not everyone is safe or capable of doing that. I personally think the penalty for breaking the social distancing law should be imprisonment in solitary until the social distancing rule has been lifted or a suspended sentence.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

It’s Duterte... But I’m referring to it been done over here. Breaking lockdowns and curfews aren’t offenses worthy of the death penalty. Actually, nothing is. It’s not a deterrent. But that’s not the topic of this thread. It’s simply some people overreacting.

It's called capital punishment and not capital deterrent for a reason.

It does nothing to stop crime. But that’s not the topic here.

[Cisairse]

I haven't been outside of my house since March 12th, other than to get the mail.

I wish more people would take the clampdown as seriously.

[Agarntrop]

Send them to volunteer at hospitals then...

No they would likely infect a medical professional.

Making them dig graves for the victims however may be a safe illuminating experience.

That could also be a good option.

[Estanglia]

I personally believe it should be dealt with as a criminal matter rather than an infraction, though.

Send them to volunteer at hospitals then...

That would be a pretty good punishment tbh.

Wanna violate quarantine? Fine, but if we catch you we'll make you fill any vacancies in essential occupations. Sure, that probably means more exposure to Coronavirus, but maybe you should've thought about it before you violated quarantine.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Send them to volunteer at hospitals then...

No they would likely infect a medical professional.

Making them dig graves for the victims however may be a safe illuminating experience.

Aren’t we cremating those died of CoVID19 either way?